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Video about gold rings and pull tabs

Good luck as you learn more, and improve your findings....Remember not that many years ago we had 0 discrimination......
Sounds like you have, or perhaps are about too have taken discrimination a step further.....:thumbup:
 
Mega said:
If these setting work and it does what it claims it does then that is fine,just carry on what works for you,why i guess that you have had some back lash is the fact that i guess you are just showing the folks a video but not expanding on the settings used or how you use the setting.So what is happening i guess is that you are providing the beginning half of the story and the rest of the posters on the thread are finishing it for you.

It would have been best i guess too have just kept this method for your own use or provide the full story including the settings and how you use them.

I think Mega's post speaks volumes as to the direction of this thread Jack.

You assert you have made an important discovery, in your video. The video really doesn't prove anything in the line of "new" discovery.

Now it's all conjecture on the part of both believers and doubters. You kind of left it hanging out there.

Until such time as you expound on what you've done, or provide more empirical evidence, believers and doubters, both, have equal basis.

Good luck.
 
I thought I better watch the video :biggrin:

good on the old cobber at his age he is allowed to do the hell what ever he wants :bouncy: and dig less pull tabs as he can ..

hope I am still kicking at his age let alone still detecting.

so he picked out rings that don't hit in that tab range that's fine and there are plenty that live out of that range and there are some nice 18K ones that do..

so I don't think he was showing anything other than there are gold rings that don't live with some tabs don't think its a secret formula just how it is.

like that a 10K grill never find one of those here but man I want one It would be kool :biggrin:

so don't be too hard on the old bloke he was just showing us a video.

changed my tune I know but I didn't watch the video .

so well done Jack keep getting out there mate and grabbing some gold you deserve any that comes your way.

AJ
 
I would say that half of my gold rings came up from TID's that were usual and never thought that it might be a gold ring. There are the usual TID's that you always dig but we all miss some gold by not digging all targets. I hate to dig pull tabs as bad as the other guys, but in the past five years i have dug about 50 gold rings, and half of them were a complete shock from what the TID would indicate. About all i can say is if it is not a repeatable signal it more than likely is trash.
 
jackintexas said:
.... It is that I have made a discovery that not even the engineers have discovered.....

Jack, the engineers have long since discovered this. It's called notch discriminating. Anyone with a TID programable machine can find the recurring zones of recurring type tabs, and edit them out. Then sure, some gold rings that don't fall in those zones, will be detected. It was/is called "ring enhancement programs". And it's been done before. And yes, it can be useful for some people trying to up their odds.

But I can think of parks where your system would net you hundreds of trash items, before you'd ever net your first gold ring. Perhaps you're hunting types turf where there's not slews of foil wads, molten aluminum nuggets, can slaw, etc..... If so, then sure: Your system will up-the-odds of gold rings, because you're spending less of your time digging the most common forms of aluminum.

People have toyed with this since 1982-83-ish. Trust me, I was there. We all thought we'd get rich digging gold rings till our arms fell off. While effortlessly leaving all the aluminum behind. We got a rude awakening when we discovered that there's STILL a boat-load of different type aluminum , that aren't exactly in those confined tab zones.
 
Back in about 1983 (or '84?), when Teknetics was still only a ~2 yr. old company, our club was somehow honored to have a Teknetics representative come speak to us. He brought their latest introductions of the time to demonstrate.

Bear in mind, that at this time, even though there's been a few rudimentary TID's machines (both them and Whites). Yet it was still a fairly new concept. Back in those days, word didn't travel as fast as it does with today's lightening age of the internet forums. So you were at the mercy of whatever you heard "through the grapevine" . Like if you happened to be hunting with someone who showed you some better mouse-trap. Or you were at the mercy of hyped up treasure magazine advertisements, etc..... So at the time this fellow came to talk to our club, the concept of tone ID, and bouncing needles for TID, was still un-heard of .

Up till this time , the only discrimination was ascending and descending. So if you knocked out tabs, you would miss nickels. If you knocked out square tabs, you'd miss round tabs. It was just assumed them, that whatever your setting was at, then anything underneath that, was GONE.

I distinctly remember the fellow waiving a wad of foil. It gave a distinctive tone. Ok, so what. Then he waived a nickel. It gave yet another distinctive tone, different than the foil wad he'd just waived. Hmmm. Then he waived a tab. It gave a 3rd different distinct tone. Hmmm. Then he waived a gold ring. It gave a 4th distinctive tone, DIFFERENT THAN THE PRIOR 3 ! Everyone's jaw dropped in the room. It was simply amazing. The dealer showed it with multiple different types of aluminum, and multiple gold rings, and you could plainly hear that the sound coming from the gold rings did not match his sample objects of aluminum.

There was immediate images of the club members of being able to go to parks, pass the junk, and dig "only gold". I mean, duh, how can you argue with this actual live demonstration ? A few guys in the room bought them on the spot, with this exact notion in mind. But lo & behold, they were in for a rude awakening, when they went to the nearest parks (which had been cherry picked leaving all the low conductors behind). They began to find out, that there is STILL a lot of aluminum that doesn't exactly fall into an isolated few foil samples. And an isolated few tab samples, etc...

I remember one guy tried an experiment: He collected all the aluminum he was getting, despite the notch outs. Then he notched ALL THEM out too. Then he went home, tried all his own collection of rings-found, and his wife's jewelry from her jewelry box. Only to discover he was now discriminating all that out too. doh !
 
Another humorous story along the lines of this post: A fellow had one of the first programmable machines which allowed the option to "learn". I believe it was the first Whites Eagle which had this option. He blacked out EVERYTHING. Such that all TID's were rejected. Then he took all his wife's jewelry from her jewelry box, plus all he had in his own collection, and waived them each in front of the machine, with the "learn" command.

We're talking not just rings, but all sorts of other gold things too: earings, chains, bracelets, rings, charms, etc... Then with this custom program edited into his machine, he headed to the nearest park .

Anyone care to guess what he found ? :)
 
I'll take a guess. Costume jewerly, matchbox cars, dogtags, keys, etc.
Not many diamond rings and gold jewelry at tot lots. :crazy:
 
I just read all five pages....and realized it has been two years since I have found any Gold......ugh.....
 
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