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Tesoro Mojave?

TAB.HUNTER said:
The technology they are seeking is artificial intelligence. You know, the kind that tells you to pass over the silver dollar because it thinks it's a tin can lid! It's cool probability brought to you in living color. Nah. I'll take research, knowing my machine, and knowing the ground over electronic probability. With that said, I'm getting old & lazy. I do like a machine with a screen sometimes because when it displays "junk" under the coil, I'm elated I don't have to dig! Also, Tesoro's go deep enough. Good Lord! I don't want to be bringing in a back hoe any more. I guess you could say I'm into "sport" detecting & having fun doing it. I had a Minelab Safari with the latest tech. The signal sounded like two Star Wars robots in a heated argument! My first Tesoro, the Lobo, replaced my White's V3i (taking model from memory). The fun factor quadrupled. My finds increased.
Tones are still based upon probability. Probability because depth and soil conditions (hot or mild, wet or dry) will affect that signal.
The Mojave may be a real winner.
Can't argue- love my Compadre. It's just that a variable two tone is like having two detectors- nothing is more aggravating than hitting a trash laden area and having to go get an ID detector when you would have tones to work through it (when set for the tone to break at tabs you have a notch detector!) You don't HAVE to go by the tones, but what a nice feature. Can you imagine the sales increase?
 
slingshot said:
TAB.HUNTER said:
The technology they are seeking is artificial intelligence. You know, the kind that tells you to pass over the silver dollar because it thinks it's a tin can lid! It's cool probability brought to you in living color. Nah. I'll take research, knowing my machine, and knowing the ground over electronic probability. With that said, I'm getting old & lazy. I do like a machine with a screen sometimes because when it displays "junk" under the coil, I'm elated I don't have to dig! Also, Tesoro's go deep enough. Good Lord! I don't want to be bringing in a back hoe any more. I guess you could say I'm into "sport" detecting & having fun doing it. I had a Minelab Safari with the latest tech. The signal sounded like two Star Wars robots in a heated argument! My first Tesoro, the Lobo, replaced my White's V3i (taking model from memory). The fun factor quadrupled. My finds increased.
Tones are still based upon probability. Probability because depth and soil conditions (hot or mild, wet or dry) will affect that signal.
The Mojave may be a real winner.
Can't argue- love my Compadre. It's just that a variable two tone is like having two detectors- nothing is more aggravating than hitting a trash laden area and having to go get an ID detector when you would have tones to work through it (when set for the tone to break at tabs you have a notch detector!) You don't HAVE to go by the tones, but what a nice feature. Can you imagine the sales increase?

The golden micro max would have been a huge seller than.....was it?
 
It was not. No manual GB for one, and 4 tones was just too much for beep and dig type of guys, plus they complained about the closeness of the two middle tones. That it was not a big seller really puzzles me. I never had trouble with four tones, how close they were, etc. most of my frustration was solved by using a smaller than stock coil, and keeping fresh batteries gets adequate depth for parks (and the go.den is a park machine). Finally, you can adjust the internal GB pot for switching coils, it's just a pain.
 
Neil said:
slingshot said:
TAB.HUNTER said:
The technology they are seeking is artificial intelligence. You know, the kind that tells you to pass over the silver dollar because it thinks it's a tin can lid! It's cool probability brought to you in living color. Nah. I'll take research, knowing my machine, and knowing the ground over electronic probability. With that said, I'm getting old & lazy. I do like a machine with a screen sometimes because when it displays "junk" under the coil, I'm elated I don't have to dig! Also, Tesoro's go deep enough. Good Lord! I don't want to be bringing in a back hoe any more. I guess you could say I'm into "sport" detecting & having fun doing it. I had a Minelab Safari with the latest tech. The signal sounded like two Star Wars robots in a heated argument! My first Tesoro, the Lobo, replaced my White's V3i (taking model from memory). The fun factor quadrupled. My finds increased.
Tones are still based upon probability. Probability because depth and soil conditions (hot or mild, wet or dry) will affect that signal.
The Mojave may be a real winner.
Can't argue- love my Compadre. It's just that a variable two tone is like having two detectors- nothing is more aggravating than hitting a trash laden area and having to go get an ID detector when you would have tones to work through it (when set for the tone to break at tabs you have a notch detector!) You don't HAVE to go by the tones, but what a nice feature. Can you imagine the sales increase?
Well, the new Golden led to the discovery of some amazing settings that sparked a video that sparked an interest and increase in sales. Then after the video, dang if they didn't claim a part that was no longer available and the Golden was discontinued. It just seems like they hate success. The two tone option is less confusing, as I have it on my Royal Sabre-so I could really care less. Only thing, the lowest discriminate setting on the Royal is bottlecap and the Mojave would be much lower.
 
hihosilver said:
It was not. No manual GB for one, and 4 tones was just too much for beep and dig type of guys, plus they complained about the closeness of the two middle tones. That it was not a big seller really puzzles me. I never had trouble with four tones, how close they were, etc. most of my frustration was solved by using a smaller than stock coil, and keeping fresh batteries gets adequate depth for parks (and the go.den is a park machine). Finally, you can adjust the internal GB pot for switching coils, it's just a pain.

Ok thanks I didnt think so because they rarely come up for sale.
I just got mine, looks great....we have snow coming so I will probably put it together this weekend when I have more time and see about the tones. Ive used minelabs for alot of years...they have lots of tones and they are close as they change so suspect it will be fine.
The GB function that works in both disc and all metal I think is only on 3 tesoro models?(outlaw,tejon,vaquero)...hey they might suprise us down the road...
Im guessing the Mojave suprised a few...
Thanks again
 
Hello Neil,

I watched the video Larry made with the Mojave scanning the coil over black sand, with both low and high mineral setting. The high setting knocked out the noise from the black sand, this was in discrimination mode. That shows the GB carries over into disc mode.

Looks like the Mojave may do well, especially in hot ground.

My Mojave should be here Monday, can't wait.

Paul
 
Well really. At $251 one wonders what all the fuss is about. I hunt the Compadre and even not getting the hours, in 3 years it has paid for itself 3 times. Not counting the fun and lightness. So in my case I keep four machines. So my little friend the (Compadre) could be in some trouble here. It's simply the Compadre vs the Mojave. The loser will be taking a stroll.
 
its that low profile coil I want :biggrin: just looks like a gold sniffer.

I have just the thing to put it on :cheekkiss:

its a real bitza coil change and sens mod compadre on a grey pole pretty sure wont see this outta the factory :lmfao:

AJ

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amberjack said:
its that low profile coil I want :biggrin: just looks like a gold sniffer.

I have just the thing to put it on :cheekkiss:

its a real bitza coil change and sens mod compadre on a grey pole pretty sure wont see this outta the factory :lmfao:

AJ

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Actually I think we are seeing this out of the factory with the Mojave aren't we? Same kHz, coil change, sensitivity adjustment, plus the two preset ground adjusts :cheers:
 
Cajundirtdobber said:
Seems like the mojave is just perfect for you if you dont like to dig deep deep targets

I don't think of any 5 pin Tesoro's as being deep detectors.
The Mojave does have a deeper air test than any 5 pin I have owned with the exception of my Conquistador though.
I have had a couple Troy X2s, Bandido II uMax, Bandido uMax, Silver Sabre uMax, Golden as well as the Amigo II and the Mojave has a little more juice than all of those.
The ground balence models might make up for the depth shortage in the dirt since it can be dialed in.

Bryan
 
Bryan V said:
Cajundirtdobber said:
Seems like the mojave is just perfect for you if you dont like to dig deep deep targets

I don't think of any 5 pin Tesoro's as being deep detectors.
The Mojave does have a deeper air test than any 5 pin I have owned with the exception of my Conquistador though.
I have had a couple Troy X2s, Bandido II uMax, Bandido uMax, Silver Sabre uMax, Golden as well as the Amigo II and the Mojave has a little more juice than all of those.
The ground balence models might make up for the depth shortage in the dirt since it can be dialed in.

Bryan

What would you say that the tesoro get on a reasonable day in decent soil. I've got a Mojave but haven't gotten out to use it yet. I plan to detect a bit today.
 
I've had a chance to take the Mojave out a few times and am pleasantly surprised. Having used an Outlaw in the past that never clicked I had a bit of apprehension about the audio frequency. Fortunately either my ears have changed or the tone is a lot more pleasant and descriptive.
Two things that surprised me about this detector are how reactive to the sand at the beach it is in the low setting and how quiet it will get in the high setting. That includes into the wet sand. I wonder what is going on in there? I had seen the video that Keith Southern had made where a brick had been cancelled out in the the high mode yet the Mojave couldn't see a coin under it. So I went out to the where the water was soaking up over the sand and dropped a 9mm that I'd dug up earlier in a small hole in the water. Buried it and tested it out, sure enough could tell it was there. I found a cut in a little higher sand and started finding coins left and right. At one point I found a large soft round tone that made my ears perk up. Dug down about 6-8 inches into the water and pulled out a lead sinker the size of the tip of my thumb.
My saber micromax never seemed to react to the sand as much but could never make it to the water. Nice to know it'll work there if the beach isn't sanded. Just so you know the beaches here aren't used by sun bathers as much as they are by beer drinking pallet burning college kids and locals. So parts of the beach are beds of nails bottlecaps an canslaw.
I also tried some parks and totlots and was impressed. Great audio, quick response, decent depth and fun!
 
Yes i was. I wonder what the high mineral switch does? I know that the consensus is changing the ground balance, but to what? Maybe someone can shed some light.
 
You might want to have your troy x2 looked at it should hit a quarter at 12 inches as mine does unless you have bad dirt.which i think is deep for a 5 pin.
Bryan V said:
Cajundirtdobber said:
Seems like the mojave is just perfect for you if you dont like to dig deep deep targets

I don't think of any 5 pin Tesoro's as being deep detectors.
The Mojave does have a deeper air test than any 5 pin I have owned with the exception of my Conquistador though.
I have had a couple Troy X2s, Bandido II uMax, Bandido uMax, Silver Sabre uMax, Golden as well as the Amigo II and the Mojave has a little more juice than all of those.
The ground balence models might make up for the depth shortage in the dirt since it can be dialed in.

Bryan
 
Cajundirtdobber said:
You might want to have your troy x2 looked at it should hit a quarter at 12 inches as mine does unless you have bad dirt.which i think is deep for a 5 pin.
Bryan V said:
Cajundirtdobber said:
Seems like the mojave is just perfect for you if you dont like to dig deep deep targets

I don't think of any 5 pin Tesoro's as being deep detectors.
The Mojave does have a deeper air test than any 5 pin I have owned with the exception of my Conquistador though.
I have had a couple Troy X2s, Bandido II uMax, Bandido uMax, Silver Sabre uMax, Golden as well as the Amigo II and the Mojave has a little more juice than all of those.
The ground balence models might make up for the depth shortage in the dirt since it can be dialed in.

Bryan

Agreed the shadow X2 should hit quarters at well over 10 inches mine will repeatedly seems yours could use a check up
 
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