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Sovereign and Excalibur Search Coils
- Thread starter Ron from Michigan
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Critterhunter
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I'm just the guy with the most time on his hands. 
Critterhunter
New member
robby4570 said:
That makes it smaller than the S-5 which is 5.5" in size, because Ralph at Sun Ray says the S-5 is epoxy filled so it's windings go all the way to the side of the coil edge so I guess that makes the Sun Ray S-5 a true 5.5" coil? Not knowing about the internals of the Excelerator, the actual windings might be smaller than what you measured and the outside edge area of the coil padded to cushion from any bumps as has recently been talked about with some coils by Ralph in this sticky concerning some solid or "pancake" coils (non-spiderweb style coils).
That makes the 5" Excelerator at least probably half an inch smaller maybe if not more? Some who want max separation might want to opt for the smallest coil possible, but even if the S-5 is a true 5.5" internaly it's still one tiny little coil and it's depth is outstanding where as I haven't read any Sovereign user reports really on the Excelerator. The S-5 I own looks so tiny, much smaller than the Whites concentric trash coils I used on the low frequency Whites. Those are bigger than the name implies on them.
I would guess Ralph saying the S-5 is filled with epoxy also means it's rated waterproof. Not sure about the Excelerators. How heavy is it? If it's super light like it feels hollow then it's not epoxy filled and is only rated water resistant. That when then also mean the edges are probably padded to prevent shock and so it's even smaller than your measurements.
If you own a "5" inche Excelerator don't let the sticker being different in the pic below throw you off. As noted in this sticky already with 3 pics together there appear to be at least 3 different stickers on these coils but they are probably all the same coil and the sticker is just different for whatever market around the world it's being shipped to maybe. That is, until somebody tells us otherwise and the coils are different internaly as the coil evolved, but I doubt it...
Edit: Just noticed. Note the other "S" label one shown prior in this thread that I just re-posted beside yours here has a different label than yours, so that makes at least 4 different labels, but as said I'm sure all 4 are the same coil probably. The coil ears do look thicker on yours though maybe...
Should be out detecting and getting some real experience as not everything is by the books and don't work that way as we have seen. When do you get time go out and to look for a job?? that is if you are looking for one yet as it seems you spend all day and night looking up other peoples post from before and posting them on this forum. If I was unemployed I would be out looking for jobs in person as these are the people many will hire, not those applying on line.
I just don't have the time to respond to all your post as I have my bar and cafe to run or I would be posting more to you where I disagree from actual experience, not from what I read somewhere.
Rick
I just don't have the time to respond to all your post as I have my bar and cafe to run or I would be posting more to you where I disagree from actual experience, not from what I read somewhere.
Rick
Critterhunter
New member
Rick, first...I will NOT be returning your personal attack in kind. Just not my style. Why the uncalled for smear on a person's character? Simply for the merit of not agreeing on metal detecting topics in the past? I would never do that to somebody on something as trivial in the big picture of life, especially in an open forum about metal detecting.
Second, since I do have *some* time on my hands (see below), I'm only trying to get info up for people who love or want to learn these great BBS machines. No harm in that IMO. My contributions to the stickys are slowing way down now as I've dug up just about all I can think from the forum to post in terms of common questions that always pop up time and time again, and not just answers to those questions from me, but even from others like YOU that had informative things to say in the past. You can see that in all the quotes from you I posted in the Sovereign Meters stickys. If I don't know something then I post from others who do. What's wrong with that?
Much if not the vast majority of thread links I put in the stickys are threads from others who have expertise in one form or aspect related to these machines. That's the very thing these forums are for. To share the expertise of others in aspects we don't know about. I think that's a great thing myself, that there is a huge knowledge base here from old threads to link right at people's fingertips. And, as said, I'm about done, as I've pretty much linked all the common questions that always pop up over and over that others had great answers to in the past.
Third, you just let me worry about my situation. No need to take personal swipes at people just because you don't agree with them on all aspects of metal detecting. If everybody agreed with everybody else on these forums there wouldn't be any point to them, would there? I can tell you that, as much as I frequent these forums, I don't ever get personal or try to smear people I don't agree with. You think about that, and that old rule about treating others like you'd want them to treat you. I know I always try to live by that rule and it seems to work for me.
Far as jobs go, for one thing I send out plenty of resumes every day. That's why I'm also on the forums a lot. I can only take so much resume shuffling and then I flip windows and relax a little bit with some reading and posting. Seems to take the edge off other boring/stressful "send this to that" type of job hunting mechanics on the computer. I don't know how long ago it was you had to look for your last job but things have changed these days. Many employers will only accept applications or resumes online. I've even driven as far as 30 or 40 miles to some places I dug up an address for only to see signs on the front door that say "NO RESUMES SUBMITTED IN PERSON! Email them to us at XXX" I still drive around to places I can and hand them out in person, but at these gas prices these days I have to limit how much of that I do every week.
And as far as detecting goes, I still get plenty of hunting in. I just don't post every hunt unless I feel there is something worth posting about. A few wheats or even the odd Rosie here or there and I usually won't bother with posting about it unless the recovery was notable due to heavy iron, an on edge coin, or one super deep. Not that I need to tell you my schedule, but tomorrow I'll be hitting a torn down old house I just spotted and Saturday I plan to do a water hunt. That is, as my resume sending/delivering time allows.
So, don't be so quick to judge and smear people. You may see me on these forums a lot but that's only because I'm swapping windows after digging up some emails or websites to send resumes and emailing them out, looking up more addresses via various sources. Many companies are not all listed in all the same place these days like they used to be in the yellow pages. You've got to cruise sites, look in contractor lists, and dig deep in some obscure places on the web. It ain't easy work, but if you haven't had to look for a job in recent years with this new age of computers or this bad economy where you have to really dig then you might not realize how much work it is. I wouldn't presume to tell you what to do with your day anyway. Not my place.
One more thing, I hope when you lay your head down at night you thank God for the job/business you have in this economy. Many can't say that, so don't be so quick to look down at others who are out of work right now. It's not always their fault. I know several people who are out of work at the moment that have very good college degrees in fields that are actually worth having a degree in, and yet they can't find jobs either. I owned my own business for years too, Rick. Losing it CAN happen. I had to shut mine down when I couldn't keep it going anymore. Aren't you worried about the karma thing when talking down to others who don't have jobs or own a business in this wreck of an economy? For that reason only I would never do that to others myself.
Now, you'll notice in this message, not once did I attack or smear you. Treat others as you would have them treat you. I know I always do, I just wish others would live by those rules too. Sure, once in a while I'm as prone to gossip here and there as the next guy, but never would I post such slanderous stuff in an open forum to try to smear somebody I don't agree with. I know for a fact you don't know me, because nobody on this forum has even talked to me on the phone with one exception, so you can't possibly know what you are implying about me.
And, one minor point, be careful who you PM and think you are talking in confidence about others. I already had been tipped off before about things being said, but I chose to ignore it. And I will ignore it again, starting right now...Meaning, say what you want, because I won't be responding to more of it. Just isn't proper for a forum on metal detecting for one thing. I really don't feel I owe you an explanation, but I felt I owed others in this forum one who might otherwise believe what you are saying about me. I just wanted to set the record straight, but I won't be contributing to your harsh attacks anymore by way of a further response to any.
You have a good day now...
Second, since I do have *some* time on my hands (see below), I'm only trying to get info up for people who love or want to learn these great BBS machines. No harm in that IMO. My contributions to the stickys are slowing way down now as I've dug up just about all I can think from the forum to post in terms of common questions that always pop up time and time again, and not just answers to those questions from me, but even from others like YOU that had informative things to say in the past. You can see that in all the quotes from you I posted in the Sovereign Meters stickys. If I don't know something then I post from others who do. What's wrong with that?
Much if not the vast majority of thread links I put in the stickys are threads from others who have expertise in one form or aspect related to these machines. That's the very thing these forums are for. To share the expertise of others in aspects we don't know about. I think that's a great thing myself, that there is a huge knowledge base here from old threads to link right at people's fingertips. And, as said, I'm about done, as I've pretty much linked all the common questions that always pop up over and over that others had great answers to in the past.
Third, you just let me worry about my situation. No need to take personal swipes at people just because you don't agree with them on all aspects of metal detecting. If everybody agreed with everybody else on these forums there wouldn't be any point to them, would there? I can tell you that, as much as I frequent these forums, I don't ever get personal or try to smear people I don't agree with. You think about that, and that old rule about treating others like you'd want them to treat you. I know I always try to live by that rule and it seems to work for me.
Far as jobs go, for one thing I send out plenty of resumes every day. That's why I'm also on the forums a lot. I can only take so much resume shuffling and then I flip windows and relax a little bit with some reading and posting. Seems to take the edge off other boring/stressful "send this to that" type of job hunting mechanics on the computer. I don't know how long ago it was you had to look for your last job but things have changed these days. Many employers will only accept applications or resumes online. I've even driven as far as 30 or 40 miles to some places I dug up an address for only to see signs on the front door that say "NO RESUMES SUBMITTED IN PERSON! Email them to us at XXX" I still drive around to places I can and hand them out in person, but at these gas prices these days I have to limit how much of that I do every week.
And as far as detecting goes, I still get plenty of hunting in. I just don't post every hunt unless I feel there is something worth posting about. A few wheats or even the odd Rosie here or there and I usually won't bother with posting about it unless the recovery was notable due to heavy iron, an on edge coin, or one super deep. Not that I need to tell you my schedule, but tomorrow I'll be hitting a torn down old house I just spotted and Saturday I plan to do a water hunt. That is, as my resume sending/delivering time allows.
So, don't be so quick to judge and smear people. You may see me on these forums a lot but that's only because I'm swapping windows after digging up some emails or websites to send resumes and emailing them out, looking up more addresses via various sources. Many companies are not all listed in all the same place these days like they used to be in the yellow pages. You've got to cruise sites, look in contractor lists, and dig deep in some obscure places on the web. It ain't easy work, but if you haven't had to look for a job in recent years with this new age of computers or this bad economy where you have to really dig then you might not realize how much work it is. I wouldn't presume to tell you what to do with your day anyway. Not my place.
One more thing, I hope when you lay your head down at night you thank God for the job/business you have in this economy. Many can't say that, so don't be so quick to look down at others who are out of work right now. It's not always their fault. I know several people who are out of work at the moment that have very good college degrees in fields that are actually worth having a degree in, and yet they can't find jobs either. I owned my own business for years too, Rick. Losing it CAN happen. I had to shut mine down when I couldn't keep it going anymore. Aren't you worried about the karma thing when talking down to others who don't have jobs or own a business in this wreck of an economy? For that reason only I would never do that to others myself.
Now, you'll notice in this message, not once did I attack or smear you. Treat others as you would have them treat you. I know I always do, I just wish others would live by those rules too. Sure, once in a while I'm as prone to gossip here and there as the next guy, but never would I post such slanderous stuff in an open forum to try to smear somebody I don't agree with. I know for a fact you don't know me, because nobody on this forum has even talked to me on the phone with one exception, so you can't possibly know what you are implying about me.
And, one minor point, be careful who you PM and think you are talking in confidence about others. I already had been tipped off before about things being said, but I chose to ignore it. And I will ignore it again, starting right now...Meaning, say what you want, because I won't be responding to more of it. Just isn't proper for a forum on metal detecting for one thing. I really don't feel I owe you an explanation, but I felt I owed others in this forum one who might otherwise believe what you are saying about me. I just wanted to set the record straight, but I won't be contributing to your harsh attacks anymore by way of a further response to any.
You have a good day now...
Critter in real life as you are seeing people want experience when it comes to hiring and in many things in life like detecting too, not really trying to put you down, but giving you a few tips and telling you that experience is what counts in the real world. Reading and doing some studying is good too and you have to try some of this to see how it works for you. I was taught that years ago that books are not always right as they have mistakes too. When I started with the Sovereign in 1996 I had to ask a lot of questions too and by actual use of the Sovereign I learned a lot and helped many with theirs from actual experience. In fact I learn many different occupations by experience and willing to learn something new all the time, maybe this is why I say you learn something new each time out with the Sovereign and why I keep saying to those new to make it simple to begin with and learn as you go.
I didn't want to sound mean to you, but some of this is because I have to work all the time it seems or too tired to get out detecting because of health issues while you can sit at a computer all day posting post after post. The BBS forum used to be post of great finds by people that are experienced with the Sovereigns doing well, some were just questions and answers too and we were there to answer them. Now it seem it is post after post with many the same thing with very few actual finds that gets everyone excited about their Sovereign. Many of the great posters with some great info and experience are not posting anymore, ever wonder why?? Some have PM me and I know why.
Anyway Critter I am a fun loving person that enjoys helping people with their Sovereigns and if I could afford it I would love to travel around the country and help those that have question and show and prove to them hands on what I am saying about the Sovereigns, they are great in the right hands, but there is other Minelabs that in the right hands are even better as it has been proven. I love my Sovereigns and always will as I have seen with my own eye what it is capable of.
I apologise to you Critter and other that was offended by my post, wasn't what it was meant to be, wanted to have you Critter out finding some great finds to post instead of sitting in front of a computer.
Rick
I didn't want to sound mean to you, but some of this is because I have to work all the time it seems or too tired to get out detecting because of health issues while you can sit at a computer all day posting post after post. The BBS forum used to be post of great finds by people that are experienced with the Sovereigns doing well, some were just questions and answers too and we were there to answer them. Now it seem it is post after post with many the same thing with very few actual finds that gets everyone excited about their Sovereign. Many of the great posters with some great info and experience are not posting anymore, ever wonder why?? Some have PM me and I know why.
Anyway Critter I am a fun loving person that enjoys helping people with their Sovereigns and if I could afford it I would love to travel around the country and help those that have question and show and prove to them hands on what I am saying about the Sovereigns, they are great in the right hands, but there is other Minelabs that in the right hands are even better as it has been proven. I love my Sovereigns and always will as I have seen with my own eye what it is capable of.
I apologise to you Critter and other that was offended by my post, wasn't what it was meant to be, wanted to have you Critter out finding some great finds to post instead of sitting in front of a computer.
Rick
Mel Parker
Member
I use it on the Excal and with an adapter it also works great on the Sovereign GT. It's waterproof, rugged and built like they used to build them. It also gets targets that the 10" coil gets.
Critterhunter
New member
Apology accepted. 
I know you want to see more finds and actual hunts being posted by people and I do too. Look at it this way. Now that the stickys have most of the common questions that always pop up answered right at their fingertips with links to various threads where other people have been there and done that, everybody can spend more time writing messages about their hunts or getting into other aspects of the BBS machines rather answering the same questions over and over.
That's all I was trying to achieve with the content and links I added to stuff others had already posted in the stickys, but I apologize if you if you thought it was getting out of hand. Just wanted to try to kill as many of the common repeated questions as I could with links to threads and such and so I made sure I was thorough about it.
Now people can just say "look for thread link X in such and such sticky." I already have been able to do that with a few questions from people in PMs or Emails and such and a few posts in the forum so far.That's why I'm so glad Ron put up those excellent stickys and everybody has put some great content in them. The videos people posted in the model sticky alone is worth a thousand words and I'm really glad people did that.
Only a stand up person would apologize, so that tells me a lot about you Rick. Thanks. And I apologize to you if you were sick of all the new sticky links popping up fast and furious. I'm about done with adding more links to the stickys as I can't think of much more in way of questions that always pop up from people myself. A minor link here or there to a great thread on something is probably all I can see myself adding in the future.
I know you want to see more finds and actual hunts being posted by people and I do too. Look at it this way. Now that the stickys have most of the common questions that always pop up answered right at their fingertips with links to various threads where other people have been there and done that, everybody can spend more time writing messages about their hunts or getting into other aspects of the BBS machines rather answering the same questions over and over.
That's all I was trying to achieve with the content and links I added to stuff others had already posted in the stickys, but I apologize if you if you thought it was getting out of hand. Just wanted to try to kill as many of the common repeated questions as I could with links to threads and such and so I made sure I was thorough about it.
Now people can just say "look for thread link X in such and such sticky." I already have been able to do that with a few questions from people in PMs or Emails and such and a few posts in the forum so far.That's why I'm so glad Ron put up those excellent stickys and everybody has put some great content in them. The videos people posted in the model sticky alone is worth a thousand words and I'm really glad people did that.
Only a stand up person would apologize, so that tells me a lot about you Rick. Thanks. And I apologize to you if you were sick of all the new sticky links popping up fast and furious.
I'm about done with adding more links to the stickys as I can't think of much more in way of questions that always pop up from people myself. A minor link here or there to a great thread on something is probably all I can see myself adding in the future.sierraimage
New member
Hello, I have the excelerator EQ2 double d in 5" (with the gold and red label on the top) for my Minelab Sov GT. But now I am not sure it is designed for my GT, I bought it used. How do I know if it's for my GT and won't damage the GT controls box? Also, does anyone use this coil with their GT and if so, is it any good? see pic. The kellyco site says this is only for Garrett etc. and doesn't mention Minelab Sov GT at all for it.
Critterhunter
New member
Perfect question for this sticky as it always seems to pop up, so I'm glad you asked it here. All Sovereign/Excal coils will work with all models of them, but how to figure out if a coil is even meant for these machines? Well, don't plug it in to see! There is a potential to ruin your machine. This is what to do...
The thread link below is a thread where we just had the same conversation about how to identify what detector a coil is made for. If you have any more remarks concerning this topic please ask them in the thread link below, as that will keep us from mucking up the stickys with posts anymore than I already have. I'm trying to limit my posting in them now, and any future stuff I feel is imporant enough and a common enough question that always pops up to post in a sticky I'm for now on just going to try to limit as much as possible to posting a simple link to a thread about. That way the stickys stay pretty streamlined as just a quick reference list of various common questions/topics, then people can just add remarks or ask questions in the thread that it's linked to.
I wish I would have kept that in mind more with some of the stuff I added, as there's a fine line between quick reference and mucking up a sticky too much that I think I crossed several times. Remember you guys, these stickys are for everybody to post good stuff in that you feel is a common question or topic, so don't be afraid to contribute stuff you think would be good for a sticky. Ron is the moderator so he's the judge to what stuff we post stays or goes. Here's that thread about identifying what machine a coil is for...
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1751788
The thread link below is a thread where we just had the same conversation about how to identify what detector a coil is made for. If you have any more remarks concerning this topic please ask them in the thread link below, as that will keep us from mucking up the stickys with posts anymore than I already have. I'm trying to limit my posting in them now, and any future stuff I feel is imporant enough and a common enough question that always pops up to post in a sticky I'm for now on just going to try to limit as much as possible to posting a simple link to a thread about. That way the stickys stay pretty streamlined as just a quick reference list of various common questions/topics, then people can just add remarks or ask questions in the thread that it's linked to.
I wish I would have kept that in mind more with some of the stuff I added, as there's a fine line between quick reference and mucking up a sticky too much that I think I crossed several times.
Remember you guys, these stickys are for everybody to post good stuff in that you feel is a common question or topic, so don't be afraid to contribute stuff you think would be good for a sticky. Ron is the moderator so he's the judge to what stuff we post stays or goes. Here's that thread about identifying what machine a coil is for...http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1751788
robby4570
Member
OK, here's a couple pic's of a Detech 5" Excelerator "S" coil I got with my used Sovereign Elite. I've only used the 5inch coil one time for a couple hours. It's great for getting in around and under the beach chairs but it seems to lack depth. I was getting at best around 5 or 6 inches on quarters and about 4 inches on dimes. It wasn't a very precise or extensive test and I will do a better test later. I am not sure that the Disc/All Metal switch is actually doing anything on this Sovereign when I switch it so I may start a thread for answers on that topic in a bit.
One thing I can say for the 5 inch coil is that it was used over the same sand that I hit the night before with my 10 inch Tornado and I got another $1.38 in change that the 10 inch couldn't find, I guess due to the proximity of the chairs and the metal in them.
One thing I can say for the 5 inch coil is that it was used over the same sand that I hit the night before with my 10 inch Tornado and I got another $1.38 in change that the 10 inch couldn't find, I guess due to the proximity of the chairs and the metal in them.
Critterhunter
New member
Had this asked a few times lately so figured the answer should be in the coil sticky. Far as I know the only the Sun Ray is a true 8" (?) and the only 8" coil on the market right now. The Minelab 8" Tornado is also being sold right now but that coil is actually 7 & 1/4" in diameter, just like the old heavy version called the BBS coil. Many people like the 7 & 14" coil for excellent separation while still getting outstanding depth. I've read of people digging coins around a foot deep with this coil as well as the 8" Coinsearch coil, which is also a true 8" coil that Minelab made years ago and many still love it's performance to this day.
So if you are looking to buy a new true 8" coil then your only option is the Sun Ray S-8, or to put up a Want To Buy ad in the detector accessories forum for the Coinsearch 8" coil. Consider the Minelab 8" Tornado though, because it still gets killer depth and is very good at pulling coins out of trash due to it's 7 & 1/4" size from what others have to say about it.
Kellyco currently sells a Detech 8" coil for the Sovereign but it's a concentric. The only concentric I'm aware of for the Sovereign, and I'm not sure if it's a true 8" coil in size. There's also an old Hot Head Ferret 8" coil posted pictures of early in this sticky that might be a concentric. Can't remember what I dug up on it and posted about it so look for yourself.
So if you are looking to buy a new true 8" coil then your only option is the Sun Ray S-8, or to put up a Want To Buy ad in the detector accessories forum for the Coinsearch 8" coil. Consider the Minelab 8" Tornado though, because it still gets killer depth and is very good at pulling coins out of trash due to it's 7 & 1/4" size from what others have to say about it.
Kellyco currently sells a Detech 8" coil for the Sovereign but it's a concentric. The only concentric I'm aware of for the Sovereign, and I'm not sure if it's a true 8" coil in size. There's also an old Hot Head Ferret 8" coil posted pictures of early in this sticky that might be a concentric. Can't remember what I dug up on it and posted about it so look for yourself.
Critterhunter
New member
OldBeachnut video about hard wiring a coil to the Excal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9ONIzoVH8&feature=player_embedded
Pictures and thread on wiring an Excal waterproof coil plug for the WOT using Bulgin Buccaneer 400 micro connectors
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1494317,1500232#msg-1500232
Pictures and instructions on taking apart an Excal pod to wire a coil directly to the circuit board instead of splicing two cables together hard wired that way, and I think S-12 specific info too.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1105001,page=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9ONIzoVH8&feature=player_embedded
Pictures and thread on wiring an Excal waterproof coil plug for the WOT using Bulgin Buccaneer 400 micro connectors
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1494317,1500232#msg-1500232
Pictures and instructions on taking apart an Excal pod to wire a coil directly to the circuit board instead of splicing two cables together hard wired that way, and I think S-12 specific info too.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1105001,page=1
Critterhunter
New member
This thread link below has some of my initial impressions of this coil, and in the future I'll be be posting a few field reports on it in there too...
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1761707,1761707#msg-1761707
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1761707,1761707#msg-1761707
Critterhunter
New member
Sorry, ran out of time to fix to blaring mistakes in the coil weight chart. I said 8 ounces of bed liner on the Tornado when I meant 8 coats, which only added up to about point 2 ounces. I also screwed up the order from light to heaviest coals, so I fixed all that...
Critterhunter
New member
This is my final compilation opinion having used the 15x12 and 12x10 extensively in comparison to the 10" Tornado, and also how much drag these coils have in relation to each other in the water. Some thoughts on S-12 and 13" Ultimate possible (?) drag in water too, being that they are round and not squarish like the SEF coils. The S-12 seems very popular among water hunters so that should tell you something...
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1759188
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1759188
Critterhunter
New member
Ran across this picture looking for something else doing a search. I *think* this is the only time I've ever seen the 16.5" Excelerator mounted on a Sovereign so you can judge the size better. I've seen I think only the 12.5" or the 14" or maybe both in pictures before mounted on the Sovereign. If anybody has any pictures of those on a Sovereign to judge size please post them.
Critterhunter
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Appearantly this coil is not filled with epoxy, as somebody using it on an Excalibur got water inside his the first time he used it in the water. This thread has some good pictures of him taking the coil apart and some related info on how to fix a coil that got wet inside, along with taking a coil apart and doing coil repair in some cases for certain problems, that I guess you can find on Youtube.
Notice in his pics you can see the pre-amp circuit in the coil. This is unique to the Sovereign and Excalibur coils. Most machines don't feature something like this. Only ones that have this pre-amp boost in the coil that I'm aware of are the Xterra line. Of course there might be another model or two that uses one too, but far as I know most detectors do not use one. It's boosting the RX signal right the source (the receive coil) so as to amplify it before it has a chance to pick up any EMI, so that it will be more robust traveling up the coil cable, where your sensitivity control then further amplifies the signal. That's why sensitivity often has to be lowered in high EMI areas, because it distorts and contaminates the signal. I feel the pre-amp on these BBS machines is one of their secret weapons as to their extreme depth and stability.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1502697
Notice in his pics you can see the pre-amp circuit in the coil. This is unique to the Sovereign and Excalibur coils. Most machines don't feature something like this. Only ones that have this pre-amp boost in the coil that I'm aware of are the Xterra line. Of course there might be another model or two that uses one too, but far as I know most detectors do not use one. It's boosting the RX signal right the source (the receive coil) so as to amplify it before it has a chance to pick up any EMI, so that it will be more robust traveling up the coil cable, where your sensitivity control then further amplifies the signal. That's why sensitivity often has to be lowered in high EMI areas, because it distorts and contaminates the signal. I feel the pre-amp on these BBS machines is one of their secret weapons as to their extreme depth and stability.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1502697
Critterhunter
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Maybe Kellyco will special order the only two coils (4.5x7 and 10x14) they don't carry for people if they asked? Since Kellyco is the authorized US dealer for Detech.
Of particular note is that they still make Sovereign versions of the elusive 4.5x7 trash coil and 10x14 that I think both only came out about 3 years ago (?) and appear to have never been carried here in the US by Kellyco. Well, the 10x14 for various machines is carried by Kellyco but not the Sovereign version, but I don
Of particular note is that they still make Sovereign versions of the elusive 4.5x7 trash coil and 10x14 that I think both only came out about 3 years ago (?) and appear to have never been carried here in the US by Kellyco. Well, the 10x14 for various machines is carried by Kellyco but not the Sovereign version, but I don