Not impressed with the Mojave

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Barry,

Try another coil if you have one...8" donut or the 5.75" coil...see if you get any falsing when you lightly hit the ground.
Also try and switch the toggle switch to high... see if that helps in the falsing.
Try the Mojave 7" coil on another detector if you have one and see if it's the coil falsing.
Interested in your findings

Whimp,

noticed this as well with nine flsing when I slightky hit the ground on the back swing not a big deal for me but I do know the super 7 coil on my Shadow X2 does not do this

put the 8 inch coil on it and no falsing put the stock coil on my X2 and it falses everytime it goes back to the left put the small 3 inch coil on the Mojave and it works flawlessly so what gives and I know the connector is tight

I'd say contact Tesoro during business hours.
May need to be sent in. Could have been damaged during Transit at some point

 

[Whimpster]

hiho,

I experienced the same thing when I changed to my 3"x18" clean sweep coil...I could run it wide open..got the same results with the 5.75"...no falsing??
Something with the 7"coil...rather stumped on this one..

Whimp

Did some more playing around in the back yard today with the Mojave and a dime buried 5 inches. First, the Mojave was much quieter today, I could keep the sensitive at 5 without any of the falsing issues I experienced the other day, so I am thinking the problem really was EMI and for some reason it's a little less today. Decided to try all my 5 pin coils on the Mojave. I have the 9 x 8 OOR concentric, the 7" WS, and the 6" concentric. The 9x8 was surprisingly quiet, and I could crank the sensitivity up without any issues with the GB set in low. In fact all my other coils let me run the machine with the sens all the way up, without any issues, so there must be something about the 7 in coil.

The Mojave is a little deeper with the 9x8 coil, next the 7" concentric that came with the machine, then the 7" WS, and the 6" concentric could not see the 5" dime at all.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Anyone try their new 7 on another 5 pin. Like the b2mm or the outlaw? Even eldorado. Any GB machine

 

[UtahRich]

Anyone try their new 7 on another 5 pin. Like the b2mm or the outlaw? Even eldorado. Any GB machine

Hey there Stoof-tabsallday,

I see that you have a Shadow Super 7" coil listed on your Deleon. How similar are the new Tesoro precision 7' and the Troy Super 7".


Rich -

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Haven't done a full comparison yet.
Work has had me quite tied up.
I plan in trying them both in my b2 and my outlaw.

 

[BarryL]

Anyone try their new 7 on another 5 pin. Like the b2mm or the outlaw? Even eldorado. Any GB machine

Hey there Stoof-tabsallday,

I see that you have a Shadow Super 7" coil listed on your Deleon. How similar are the new Tesoro precision 7' and the Troy Super 7".


Rich -[/quote
not to hijack but if you place both coils side by side and took the printing or labels off you could not tell the difference . I took the coil off the Mojave put it on my Shadow X2 and falses everytime it hits the ground on the back swing to the left like it was doing on the Mojave . put the super 7 on the Mojave and it did not false at all even with the sens as high as it could go so think I will keep the brown 8 inch coil on my Mohave it works very well

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

This is weird. Neither of my Mojaves false like this...

 

[Jgdeavers]

I'm just a green-horn at this finding and digging thing, thus my findings likely won't hold much water...so with that in mind...

My Mojave seems to work terrifically! Not quite as deep-probing as my Outlaw, yet a bit more so than my Silver uMAx. Seems the easiest to me to just turn on and start detecting...Has become "the One" I keep with me all the time.

Have yet to have any "falseing" from either of the three, always something in the ground when I choose to dig.

I'm assuming ground conditions play a larger role in any of this than most of us diggers realize.

I can run either Silver, or Mojave wide-open with no ill effects (that I have discovered anyways) other than increased depth, and stronger returns on shallower items. The Outlaw does act up a bit when I crank things way over to the right...Usually the threshhold is about noon to 1 o'clock-ish, sensitivity around 9 to 12 o'clock.

Concerning coils...I have the trio included with the Outlaw, the 7" coming on the Mojave, The "chocolate" 8" doughnut from the Silver uMax...my limited use has me going for the 8" open coils usually, the 12x10 if I'm in a wide open field setting, and lastly the 5.75" only if I'm in a very tight "brushy" area (all tot-lots are off-limits here in the County). Only perceived "advantage" I have found with the 7" is the weight reduction of an already light setup.

...Most will likely laugh at this, as all I read about on these forums are "how deep"? "Gained another 1/4 inch by crossing my left foot toes" "Gotta Super-Duper Tune to get the absolute last millimeter"...I actually run mine less than half on sensitivity, threshhold, whatever the adjustment may be...we have much gravel just a few inches down in most areas I have dug, and to me, it just hasn't been worth the time and effort to try and go deeper than the usual 4-6' that all of these detectors have no problem reaching down too.,

Thanks for reading, and all the great info you folks post

Jamie

 

[UtahRich]

I think yours is a great report Jamie. Your results are just that, YOUR results. As I see it, I can only report MY results. " Your Results May Differ". Or they may be similar.

And YES, there is a lot of concern about DEPTH of detection by most detectorists. But a sometimes overlooked aspect of detecting is target MASKING, where a good target is masked from detection by a nearby bad target(s), or bad ground conditions. When we get to the point where we've hunted a good location many times and are starting to come up with few if any finds, many look for ways to eek out a few extra keepers This is where trying different detectors, tactics, settings and using your experience can help you find targets others, including yourself, may have missed.

Good luck out there and keep those toes crossed!


Rich

I'm just a green-horn at this finding and digging thing, thus my findings likely won't hold much water...so with that in mind...

My Mojave seems to work terrifically! Not quite as deep-probing as my Outlaw, yet a bit more so than my Silver uMAx. Seems the easiest to me to just turn on and start detecting...Has become "the One" I keep with me all the time.

Have yet to have any "falseing" from either of the three, always something in the ground when I choose to dig.

I'm assuming ground conditions play a larger role in any of this than most of us diggers realize.

I can run either Silver, or Mojave wide-open with no ill effects (that I have discovered anyways) other than increased depth, and stronger returns on shallower items. The Outlaw does act up a bit when I crank things way over to the right...Usually the threshhold is about noon to 1 o'clock-ish, sensitivity around 9 to 12 o'clock.

Concerning coils...I have the trio included with the Outlaw, the 7" coming on the Mojave, The "chocolate" 8" doughnut from the Silver uMax...my limited use has me going for the 8" open coils usually, the 12x10 if I'm in a wide open field setting, and lastly the 5.75" only if I'm in a very tight "brushy" area (all tot-lots are off-limits here in the County). Only perceived "advantage" I have found with the 7" is the weight reduction of an already light setup.

...Most will likely laugh at this, as all I read about on these forums are "how deep"? "Gained another 1/4 inch by crossing my left foot toes" "Gotta Super-Duper Tune to get the absolute last millimeter"...I actually run mine less than half on sensitivity, threshhold, whatever the adjustment may be...we have much gravel just a few inches down in most areas I have dug, and to me, it just hasn't been worth the time and effort to try and go deeper than the usual 4-6' that all of these detectors have no problem reaching down too.,

Thanks for reading, and all the great info you folks post

Jamie

 

[JEF]

I purchased a Mojave, took the 7" coil off and sold the Mojave without a coil for $150.00. I then put the 7" coil on my Bandido II Umax, and it works great on it. I have not had any problems with falsing, or any other problems with it. I also have another Mojave that I keep in the trunk of my car for my spur of the moment and travelling detector.

I talked to Rusty at Tesoro recently, and he said that the 7" coil probably won't be available anytime soon, and the only way to get the 7" coil would be to buy a Mojave and take the coil off of it. All of the 7" coils are going on their Mojaves that are being built.

 

[Monte]

spouting about hundred-dollar days once you work some sites that get heavy coin loss and the new $5 coins added to the mix.

If we could just get our country to dump the $1 paper money and add the $5 bill to the list and replace them with coins, and use a better metal alloy mix like they do now compared with Canadian coinage, I would start putting a lot more time back into Coin Hunting!

Best of success to you with that Mojave. I do like mine as it works well for many applications.

Monte

 

[Monte]

mostly Tesoro fans.

And, as Rich(UT) stated, that was a nice report you gave of your experiences and opinions.

If you don't mind, let me just share a few of my thoughts with you. You stated:

"The Outlaw does act up a bit when I crank things way over to the right...Usually the threshhold is about noon to 1 o'clock-ish, sensitivity around 9 to 12 o'clock."

For the best all-around performance from the silent-search Discriminate mode, it is good to have a 'proper' Threshold hum adjustment in the All Metal mode. You will loose depth and target responsiveness if the Threshold level is set too low.

Also, I very seldom, like no more than 2-5 times a year, run my Sensitivity lower than a peak-performance setting. That would be at maximum or reduced just to the point I regain stability if it is chattery at max.

I am looking for another 'as-new' 6" [size=small](5.75 in Tesoro lingo)[/size] Concentric coil for one of my Bandido series models. If you find you don't need or use yours and you'd like another 10X12 DD coil, I have one that has been used maybe 30 minutes I would be willing to trade straight across for an equally low-use, nice condition 6" Concentric.

Best of success to you as you learn your Tesoro's, or any other detector brand, and have a rewarding year out detecting.

Monte

[size=small]PS: What 'county' are you in where they ban you from hunting in tot-lots?[/size]