Need Help with head phones - - - - - - - - - - due to the size of this string, I pinned it up here to keep page 1 flowing....

[Blank Planet]

You have several options in front of you and all you can do is come up with..... but what if this or what if that........but that's not good enough......but it's all Minelab's fault..... but I'll never use the GPS ....but I wanted a lighter detector.... but why is it so heavy..... Tell you what, you want another solution? Cancel the order on your CTX 3030 and let someone buy it who will appreciate what it does. Not complain about what it doesn't do. Based on the context of your posts, you will never be happy with it anyway.

And in what could likely to be my last response to you........You said a few days ago that you were a Michael Moore fan. Why don't you have Mikey ask the President to implement a "dollars for detectors" program, similar to the "cash for clunkers" that was so successful? Then you can have a free detector! Socialism! Now that is the way to fix problems. Why didn't I think of this sooner? It's Brilliant I tell ya! Absolutely Brilliant!

it is minelabs fault.

as for the rest of it oh well , not trying to change your mind. what ever floats your boat man.

BP

 

[Digger]

I don't know if this will help. But the Koss UR 30's' have the black wire to the Sleeve, the red to the Ring and white to Tip. The white wire (Tip) goes to one side of one speaker. The red (Ring) goes to one side of the other speaker. And the black (Sleeve) goes to the other side of both speakers. The only stereo headphones I have are a pair of Koss KTX8 stereophones. And they "do everything they are suppose to do" with the 1/8' - 1/4' adapter. Thanks for your efforts. HH Randy

 

[bcoop]

n/t

 

[Dr.Deus]

for those not inclined to pull their headphones apart or buy headphones not made for metal detectors what do we do?

BP

The first thing you can do is stop ing
The thing hasn't even been released full blown yet
Its simply your own fault for buying something before its even broken in.
If your headphones don't work and you don't want to take them apart and fix them so that they are compatible then here is the solution. SELL THEMMMMMM. and get the appropriate headphones that work best for you and your ctx3030.
I will purchase the CTX3030 in the future when i know everything has been worked through. good luck buddy

 

[Ironhearted Gog]

As digger has wrote, there's a simple fix. Buy a "6.35mm Stereo Socket to 6.35mm Mono Jack Plug Adapter".

The CTX 3030 is looking for a circuit between the ring and sleeve of the jack plug. The adapter gives it what it's looking for.

 

[Rick(ND)]

I have a bad hearing problem so I need all the volume I can get and have different headphones for different detectors to get the best volume. On my E-Trac and Explorer I have to use the Troy Pros as they have the best volume, on my Sovereigns I have to use the Timberwolfs to get my best volume and tones. I have a set of the Uni-Probe headphones too for detectors I am trying out and those I cant get a Sun Ray probe for. I also have a set of the Bushmasters that will work on both the Explorer and the Sovereign and made by Detector Pro like the Uni-Probe is, but these are made for one of the dealers, cant remember which one.
Now I hadn't tried any headphones on the 3030 yet and decided to try my Troy Pros and found out the volume was real low and don't think they will work, tried the set of the Timberwolfs FMD or something like that and has no comparability switch and got no response at all. Tried my Uni-Probe and the volume was also weak, but switched the compatibility switch and now there was great volume from them which is good as I now will have a probe for my CTX 3030. Last i tried my new Bushmasters and they too were very good volume, so it looks like I have 2 sets that will work with my new CTX 3030. The sound is great and the volume is great too and like using either of these phones as they block out the surrounding noise, never tried the ones that come with the CTX 3030 as I felt they were like the ones that came with the Sovereigns and E-Tracs and didn't have enough volume for me.

Rick

 

[Ironhearted Gog]

But they do work... they just don't cut the speaker. Minelab didn't make the headphones that are causing the problem.

 

[earthmansurfer]

But they do work... they just don't cut the speaker. Minelab didn't make the headphones that are causing the problem.

But to be fair if all these after market headphones are not working then who should make the adjustment? All these headphones worked on the E-Trac and my other detectors through the years. Clearly these manufacturers shouldn't have to change their headphones because of one machine. It is nice to know that for now we can just use the stereo to mono adapter.

No way does something like this steer me from getting a CTX. New machines often have these little quirks that need to be worked out.

I am sure Minelab will put out another headphone part to remedy it (for those that request it) as that is the simplest solution, especially for those of us going with the Starter pack.

Albert

 

[Ironhearted Gog]

I don't see this as an issue.... the multi-pin headphone socket on the CTX is completely different to anything thats gone before.... If you plug the external headphone module in, it's recognised and you have a dedicated audio control for it.... if you connect the waterproof headphones, it will recognises them (they are wired differently), and you have a new set of audio controls to control them. So the plug is "smart".... and new... so incompatibility with old style headphones isn't surprising.

Your existing headphones, plugged into the WM10 will work perfectly.... as they will if you use the adapter into the module.

 

[earthmansurfer]

I don't see this as an issue.... the multi-pin headphone socket on the CTX is completely different to anything thats gone before.... If you plug the external headphone module in, it's recognised and you have a dedicated audio control for it.... if you connect the waterproof headphones, it will recognises them (they are wired differently), and you have a new set of audio controls to control them. So the plug is "smart".... and new... so incompatibility with old style headphones isn't surprising.

Your existing headphones, plugged into the WM10 will work perfectly.... as they will if you use the adapter into the module.

I ordered the cheap (2 Euro) stereo to mono adapter you mentioned on the other forum. It is a cheap solution but the problem could be that it is a rather long extension and if you come down on that the wrong way, oops, expensive problem.

The headphone issue is only an issue for those of us with the starter pack. It is considerably less expensive and I would like to use my headphones as would many.
The point is that we shouldn't have to use an adapter, rewire headphones or purchase a substantially more expensive wireless headphone module to get headphones to work. The company (Minelab) should make their machine/headphone-socket work with others headphones, not the other way around. That is my opinion and I have a feeling and observe (from reading) the opinion of most of those with expensive headphones that won't work directly with the unit (no wireless module).

To call a majority of the headphones out there "old style" is a bit misleading. Most advanced hunters are using the best that is available, and without the wireless module or an adapter, many of them won't work. That is on Minelab. And I'm not bashing here to anyone who wants to label me as such. I'd like to be able to express my concerns without being grouped as a troll, basher, etc. I have by far and away mostly great things to say about the machine. Like I said, I'm ordering the machine, I really like Minelab's and this isn't a deal breaker. But clearly this is on Minelab and not all the other manufacturers of headphones.

Thanks,
Albert

 

[DrBobinMO]

Cool and easy fix but will we still get stereo sound? or only through one side of headphone then?

 

[Gemini13]

But they do work... they just don't cut the speaker. Minelab didn't make the headphones that are causing the problem.

But to be fair if all these after market headphones are not working then who should make the adjustment.

Well to be honest IMO the aftermarket has to make the adjustment to the product not the other way around. I'm into cars and well aftermarket parts from the 2004 Mustang don't work on the 2005 Mustang. I didn't see Ford changing their car around. That being said if something minor can be done to fix the problem I trust Minelab will do that but don't expect them to re-engineer the thing.

 

[sputnik]

I have found on the 3030, the area around the headphone jack is tapered, when I first put my headphones in, Grey Ghost Ultimates, I had the same problem, with sound just coming out of the detector. But by turning the headphone jack upward, and pushing down, you are able
to connect the jack in properly. It just was not going in far enough with the original position. I have tried two different headphones and they work properly with this suggestion.

 

[earthmansurfer]

But they do work... they just don't cut the speaker. Minelab didn't make the headphones that are causing the problem.

But to be fair if all these after market headphones are not working then who should make the adjustment.

Well to be honest IMO the aftermarket has to make the adjustment to the product not the other way around. I'm into cars and well aftermarket parts from the 2004 Mustang don't work on the 2005 Mustang. I didn't see Ford changing their car around. That being said if something minor can be done to fix the problem I trust Minelab will do that but don't expect them to re-engineer the thing.

Aftermarket parts are about as specialized as you can get and is a poor analogy. A car has thousands of parts. A detector has two basic aftermarket parts - coils and headphones. Having a chip in the coil, that is an upgrade. Going to a mono plug, from a stereo plug - that is not an upgrade. We are talking headphones. The headphone adapter (back end coming from the waterproof connector) is designed to plug headphones into, just like the WM unit. The WM unit works fine with our headphones, but the detector doesn't. Huh? That is not an upgrade, that is a flaw. And understand, some of us have searched a long time to find a pair with sounds that we like - which is mostly why Minelab made the wireless module, well that and to be wireless.

Think of it like this. Minelab makes a detector with waterproof and wireless features. The wireless feature is straight on. They made it so we could use our headphones wirelessly. If you want waterproof headphones, then you buy waterproof ones from them, still straight on. But, if you want to use the same headphones that you can use in the wireless module, then you have to buy different headphones? What? Do you see how odd that is? So, we need to "upgrade" our headphones to plug into the detector, but we can use our old model to plug into the new tech wireless module? No way, I don't buy that, they made a mistake and need to admit it and offer a solution. And the solution isn't a 2" long adapter that will eventually cause damage even if you are careful. The solution isn't to rewire your headphones (not that anyone is asking). The solution is to put out a back end module that works with our headphones just like the wireless module does. Luckily that can just be sent out to users who need it. No recall necessary.

I like 95% of this machine. My only two complaints are 1 - The weight (and I'm believing that the balance is enough go compensate for it) and 2 - This headphone issue. If you want to love every single thing about this machine, then do so, but please, for those of us not buying the standard pack, don't basically say we need to upgrade our headphones or the manufacturers need to change their design. Not fair.

Thanks,
Albert

 

[Gemini13]

But they do work... they just don't cut the speaker. Minelab didn't make the headphones that are causing the problem.

But to be fair if all these after market headphones are not working then who should make the adjustment.

Well to be honest IMO the aftermarket has to make the adjustment to the product not the other way around. I'm into cars and well aftermarket parts from the 2004 Mustang don't work on the 2005 Mustang. I didn't see Ford changing their car around. That being said if something minor can be done to fix the problem I trust Minelab will do that but don't expect them to re-engineer the thing.

Aftermarket parts are about as specialized as you can get and is a poor analogy. A car has thousands of parts. A detector has two basic aftermarket parts - coils and headphones. Having a chip in the coil, that is an upgrade. Going to a mono plug, from a stereo plug - that is not an upgrade. We are talking headphones. The headphone adapter (back end coming from the waterproof connector) is designed to plug headphones into, just like the WM unit. The WM unit works fine with our headphones, but the detector doesn't. Huh? That is not an upgrade, that is a flaw. And understand, some of us have searched a long time to find a pair with sounds that we like - which is mostly why Minelab made the wireless module, well that and to be wireless.

Think of it like this. Minelab makes a detector with waterproof and wireless features. The wireless feature is straight on. They made it so we could use our headphones wirelessly. If you want waterproof headphones, then you buy waterproof ones from them, still straight on. But, if you want to use the same headphones that you can use in the wireless module, then you have to buy different headphones? What? Do you see how odd that is? So, we need to "upgrade" our headphones to plug into the detector, but we can use our old model to plug into the new tech wireless module? No way, I don't buy that, they made a mistake and need to admit it and offer a solution. And the solution isn't a 2" long adapter that will eventually cause damage even if you are careful. The solution isn't to rewire your headphones (not that anyone is asking). The solution is to put out a back end module that works with our headphones just like the wireless module does. Luckily that can just be sent out to users who need it. No recall necessary.

I like 95% of this machine. My only two complaints are 1 - The weight (and I'm believing that the balance is enough go compensate for it) and 2 - This headphone issue. If you want to love every single thing about this machine, then do so, but please, for those of us not buying the standard pack, don't basically say we need to upgrade our headphones or the manufacturers need to change their design. Not fair.

Thanks,
Albert

I'm going to make this as simple as I can manufactures of products DO NOT make things with the intent that 100% of the aftermarket will work with it. They have no control over the design, engineering and production of aftermarket components. When new things come out the aftermarket changes to coincide with the new products.

That being said it is probably something very simple and I would expect something minor needs to be done to either the module or the headphones. So either Minelab or the makers of these headphones (SunRay or whoever) will probably come up with something. Some solutions have already been presented in the short term and one fellow said it seems the plug needed to be orientated in a certain way to make contact properly. So there maybe no problem at all.

 

[Ray-Mo.]

I think it is the wrong ear for seated quarters by the way

 

[earthmansurfer]

Gemini - You didn't address any of my post really and I stand by my last post. I think I laid it out well and that is my perspective at this time.

We can agree that the solution is probably simple,
Albert

 

[timholliday]

During the presentation of the CTX at the Go Detecting event in Chicago the main selling point of the engineer from Australia was that you could use your favorite aftermarket headphones and not be forced to use a set provided by Minelab. That being said, I have every confidence that Minelab will resolve this issue to everyone's satisfaction.

 

[DrBobinMO]

I think it is the wrong ear for seated quarters by the way

Just thinking ahead Ray. Someday I'll be as old as you and might need both ears to hear well enough.

Until then, I will try the other ear and see if that solves my seated quarter problem

 

[NamVetLesTreasureSeeker]

Hey Rick, The BUSHMASTER Headphones were made by DETECTOR-PRO for CLYDE at RELIC HUNTERS SUPPLY, a Forum Sponsor (one of the
several TRUE Southern GENTLEMEN Detector Dealers in the INDUSTRY)!! I have a pair also!! BEST of LUCK, Les Robinson