for me to be satisfied, it better be a "Top of the Line" flagship detector. It better be a Target ID unit.........it better not be like the Outlaw after an 8 year wait ... a detector that is basically, repackaged old technology not a particularly deep detector...nothing special. After a long wait the new Outlaw, was just an O.K. detector but really nothing outstanding. For Tesoro to get back into the game , to stay competative ...the Caz...better be it!!! There is an awful lot riding on this detector and I for one really hope Tesoro will get it right. I have my money ready to go but Tesoro must earn it. Just my thoughts...any others care to throw in their thoughts on this subject??
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My thoughts on the new Cazador...........
- Thread starter Ivan
- Start date
Ivan said:
I believe it will more of the same, basically speaking. it will be another beep and dig, the same as most of tesoros machines, it will be a vaquero, Tejon, Outlaw or whatever with a new feature to their beep and dig world. For you folks that are expecting a machine like a Whites V- series, or a Minelab etrac type, fisher f75?? I believe you are gonna be disappointed. I just wish it would have multiple tones in a tejon style, Or more like a cortez on steroids with a big screen and quality notch. but i believe it will be what i mentioned. I hope i am wrong.
razerback408
Member
i won't a vaquero with tones and notch or a new golden with ground balancing
hihosilver
Member
razerback408 said:
Hey razorback, please don't be offended but the educator in me just cannot help himself...
won't = will not
want = something you would like to have.
I think you mean want?
REVIER
Well-known member
From what I can tell the Tesoro company is not interested in being cutting edge, or coming out with super new technology, (if there is any), or making any of their detectors similar to anyone else.
They have their niche, they are comfortable with it and they are good at it and good at making the type of detectors most their fans seem to like.
Sorry you were disappointed in the Outlaw, but coming from a business point of view this was actually a great marketing move on their part.
It was never about the machine itself, even though they did repackage and resurrected some interesting and well liked features from past units, but in reality it was all about the entire package with multiple coils and down rods included at a pretty great price.
This new one could well be all that some people seem to want every time a new detector is rumored to be coming out, all the whistles and bells and abilities never seen before...the "Next Great Thing", if you will, but doing this is not part of this companies track record for the most part and I don't expect it to be a whole lot different than the rest of their line.
It will be different to a certain extent...evidently there is a niche that they seem they want to fill or they wouldn't be coming out with anything new at all, but totally ground breaking, I doubt it.
It would be cool if it was something totally new, different and special, there is always that hope, but their track record and philosophy indicates they seem to be focused on what made them what they are to this point and I don't see them going much off point from the course they have been traveling for the last several years.
I could be totally wrong and this new one could surprise us all, but that remains to be seen.
Using logic and tracking Tesoro's thinking on exactly what they have come out with in the past I think all the fanboys that are really hoping for that ground breaking new unit that will do and find more than what their present line up can already do will be disappointed...again.
I really hope I am wrong about this, but again, we will see.
They have their niche, they are comfortable with it and they are good at it and good at making the type of detectors most their fans seem to like.
Sorry you were disappointed in the Outlaw, but coming from a business point of view this was actually a great marketing move on their part.
It was never about the machine itself, even though they did repackage and resurrected some interesting and well liked features from past units, but in reality it was all about the entire package with multiple coils and down rods included at a pretty great price.
This new one could well be all that some people seem to want every time a new detector is rumored to be coming out, all the whistles and bells and abilities never seen before...the "Next Great Thing", if you will, but doing this is not part of this companies track record for the most part and I don't expect it to be a whole lot different than the rest of their line.
It will be different to a certain extent...evidently there is a niche that they seem they want to fill or they wouldn't be coming out with anything new at all, but totally ground breaking, I doubt it.
It would be cool if it was something totally new, different and special, there is always that hope, but their track record and philosophy indicates they seem to be focused on what made them what they are to this point and I don't see them going much off point from the course they have been traveling for the last several years.
I could be totally wrong and this new one could surprise us all, but that remains to be seen.
Using logic and tracking Tesoro's thinking on exactly what they have come out with in the past I think all the fanboys that are really hoping for that ground breaking new unit that will do and find more than what their present line up can already do will be disappointed...again.
I really hope I am wrong about this, but again, we will see.
razerback408
Member
nope iam from the southhihosilver said:
I'm not looking for ground breaking technology because i know Tesoro can't do that........they just can't. But give me a Deleon with a bigger target I.D. screen, ground balacing for more depth, and some tones...............that would make alot of us very happy, and should not be that difficult to make. Heck just upgrade the old Toltec design but please it's about time to do an upgraded Target I.D. unit or just drop them all together..............which so far appears to be what Tesoro is doing. Maybe the company is too poor in both cash and technological "smarts" to be able to go further than their current ID offerings. I think Monte was correct when he said their target id units are totally outclassed by all their competitors at this point. But I still have hope and faith that they might pull a rabbit out of the hat!!!
razerback408
Member
ground breaking technology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIa4ELTUdAI
REVIER
Well-known member
Ivan said:
A large readout on the screen would be nice.
I don't swing any of those units but who knows, one day I might if a good deal comes along.
I can tell you now I am not Mr. Magoo but the units I have used with numbers on the screen are way bigger than Tesoro's so hunting with those small ones could bother me...if I ever bothered to look at the screen, that is.
Something about having a Tesoro in my hands and the idea of actually having a screen to look at just seems weird to me, but I assume they put them on those units for a good reason.
Maybe one day I will find out why.
I hope they stick with what has made them great. Simplicity and quality. I have no interest in a machine that requires me to scroll thru endless menus trying to tweak another inch of depth. Take the Tejon, give it dual tone and that's good enough for me. Or maybe take the Deleon and add manual GB in both AM and disc. That would be worth the wait in my opinion.
Dan
Dan
MichiganJason
Member
I would love to see a 3 tone machine with the silver u max audio, manual ground balance. I hated the vaquero audio and think the silver's gives much more info.
cladcanada
Member
I really hope that the new model is Not like a whites ,v , mine lab flute or a fisher. Or I would have bought one of them and not be in this forum. Tesoro has there "thing" and they do it well . I wouldn't want to have a machine that the manual was heavier than or had to have a "classroom" . I do hope they get on with it so that we can either buy it or move on. And even if I don't like the new machine I think some people will and hopefully sell the old machines off to make room or free up cash for the Caz. I would be too happy to scoop up all that "old technology". Machines. Because they are not like "the other " machines on the market They are Tesoros
dirt doctor
Well-known member
foxhunter said:
Sounds good to me .
All I want is a new machine with the same features as my Omega 8000, no huge manual or classroom needed. Super easy to set up 4 tones, notch, all metal and an auto grab ground balance that can be tweaked if you want or need to. If they come out with a model like that I'll sell the Omega and but it, if its another beep and dig I'll just buy one more coil for the Omega (probably the NEL Hunter) and a couple for the Xterra and go on my merry way.
dirt doctor
Well-known member
Ivan said:
..........the key words being they're just guessing .I wouldn't take stock in anything being said now and just wait til' it's officially released .