I'm quite pleased I have my Tesoro's, and Guvner's name

[wheatymike]

I'm not trying to make waves or say "I'm going to take my ball and go play somewhere else"? I was just curious about how all of this works. So I guess according to the people who have spoken up, which I have no idea if they are a authority on the matter or not. Is, each company that has a forum pays a fee for that forum, and if they have an add then they pay extra for that? Pretty straight forward question. As far as the comment about "I guess we will have to find another place on the web to talk Tesoro on the web" I was just stating the obvious fact that the Tesoro forum is removed so It will be hard to get the traffic we once had. Newbies and such. Its all good plenty of places for this kinda discussion.

 

[jim tn]

n/t

 

[John (Ma)]

I like what TN Mike said. I have Tesoro's and will continue to use and buy them. I have had excellent service from Tesoro. Your favorite company could be in trouble, you'll never truely know until the plug is pulled. I will continue my support with Tesoro. There are detectors I don't care for and I am not on their forums talking smack.

 

[slingshot]

One point to make-kinda goes with what Monte said. We jumped all over their case about the Cazador, became psychics about their future, and protested every time they stumbled. This despite the fact they put out the company statement of "making detectors without unnecessary bells and whistles at a reasonable price". It reminds me of telling my wife she needs a complete makeover, despite the fact I knew what she was like before we married. Just sayin'- try to find a better deal than the Compadre! My point is, maybe they got tired of all the complaining.

 

[amberjack]

I am sure they got sick of the complaining and I guess when they shoved their head on the chopping block and then worked out what they had done and who they did it too they run away with tail between legs.

nothing worse than a disgruntled detectorist and they have felt the wrath of the Tesoro detector buyer and who is right who is wrong doesn't matter.

I am pretty sure I have put enough meals on the plates of my mates there in the US at the Tesoro plant so my last purchase was a good old Aussie made minelab

so yes they bought this on themselves and then they found out not to mess with us

but just hope they see light at the end of the darkening tunnel and can find some peace about us after all it is us they are shunning as they go dark.

AJ

 

[OregonGregg]

I don't see it, because Tesoro decided not to pay to sponsor the "Tesoro" forum why the name is eliminated. Rather Tesoro survives or goes broke isn't the point. Time will tell which way they go. I think a forum such as this is a place to go to discuss any make and model of Detector. I don't think a Thread should be specifically tied to a Manufacture. The manufacture should be able to sponsor on this site and for a bit more have first chance to also sponsor/run a banner on the Thread that is specific to the machines they manufacture. If they don't want to do that then let someone else sponsor the thread.

If I was a dealer I would have jumped at the chance to run my banner in the "Tesoro" thread as it was one of the most active threads on the site. Instead they chose to eliminate the "Tesoro" name off the thread. So in essence its not really a site anymore where you can go to discuss any make or model........

Ya but they only changed the name, you say. Well there are already post popping up for Relic related finds by other machines other than Tesoro, so you really can't say it is a "Tesoro" specific thread any longer.

 

[REVIER]

Ya but they only changed the name, you say. Well there are already post popping up for Relic related finds by other machines other than Tesoro, so you really can't say it is a "Tesoro" specific thread any longer.

Yea but we are nice guys so most of us Tesoro people will still hang out here, still discuss our stuff and not mind when others mistakenly come in and post like any relic find thread that actually should be posted in the real relic and bottle hunting forum instead where it will get a lot more play.

http://www.findmall.com/list.php?30

Plenty of room for others no matter what is posted here, all are welcomed including any lost sheep that amble in.

People will figure it all out in time.

Maybe the Guv might change the name to metal detecting forum without screens in the future or something to end some confusion.

 

[jld66]

I'm guessing its the continual negativity on this forum that's managed get Tesoro to drop its subscription.

But, if memory serves me correctly, the Tesoro forum was one big happy gathering place with no negativity until:
Tesoro decided to play the name the new detector game and you know the rest of the story.

EXACTLY SVEN! Most negativity was deleted off here anyhow soon after it was posted. Maybe this cazador thing and that last rant post (i know of) by Nathan is such an embarrassment for them, the are ashamed to be on social media anymore. If you are continually getting negativity from a lot of customers. One would think you would, at the very least, try and say something instead of nothing about a blunder that you caused yourself. I think that would be the adult thing to do. Not, drop out of social media completely and hope it all just goes away. That is not good leadership for a small company, Then, not realizing that after all this time? Come on. I like their detectors and great service. But, they lack competent leadership at the top level and deserve all the negativity the get for it. The son who is running it needs a good kick in the butt. Either get on here and at least give a little info, a ballpark release date, and/or admit he screwed up with flying colors, instead of nothing. If the top leadership mentality at Tesoro stays like it is now, I would not expect much from them no time soon. Maybe another color option or just a new coil in the next 5-10 years or so. But, I would not get excited about that either.

 

[dan h]

Maybe call this forum Miscellaneous Current Detectors to distinguish it from Vintage Detectors.

 

[slingshot]

Well, looks like the Church of the Compadre will have to hold a revival!

 

[marcomo]

As I understand it, Vince is the technical guy and James was the marketing guy.

I have no clue why James Gifford left the company but I had an extended conversation with James before he left and was impressed.

I can tell you they have had some reps on this forum with very suspect people skills and marketing acumen.

Tesoro makes fine detectors. But if you have poor marketing and a bare bones r&d dept, that doesn't bode well for long term success.

Beyond that...I understand there are a lot of beep and dig aficionados here, but single tone no VDI detecting is not the wave of the future in this industry. Even the international market, which has long been a big part of Tesoro's customer base, has moved away from the type of detector Tesoro is selling.

The majority of folks detecting today would not even consider a single tone detector with no VDI.

By no means am I knocking Tesoro detectors. But they are not selling what customers want.

Kind of like trying to sell horse and buggies in the late 1920s or advertising on radio dramas in the late 1950s.

There was still a market, but it was shrinking fast.

 

[wheatymike]

As I understand it, Vince is the technical guy and James was the marketing guy.

I have no clue why James Gifford left the company but I had an extended conversation with James before he left and was impressed.

I can tell you they have had some reps on this forum with very suspect people skills and marketing acumen.

Tesoro makes fine detectors. But if you have poor marketing and a bare bones r&d dept, that doesn't bode well for long term success.

Beyond that...I understand there are a lot of beep and dig aficionados here, but single tone no VDI detecting is not the wave of the future in this industry. Even the international market, which has long been a big part of Tesoro's customer base, has moved away from the type of detector Tesoro is selling.

The majority of folks detecting today would not even consider a single tone detector with no VDI.

By no means am I knocking Tesoro detectors. But they are not selling what customers want.

Kind of like trying to sell horse and buggies in the late 1920s or advertising on radio dramas in the late 1950s.

There was still a market, but it was shrinking fast.

I can smell what your cooking. Those are some good analogies. I just don't like that truth. I'm one of those few hold outs that enjoys hunting with that type of tech.

 

[pinenut]

...I'm one of those few hold outs that enjoys hunting with that type of tech.

Same here. I like my beep & digs. I also prefer using quality film cameras (and do my own developing - 35mm and medium format), and I prefer spinning vinyl records to hearing digitized..
No need for target ID; I'm competent enough with my Tesoros to do what I want, and I'm still learning. I know how bottle caps click and around how deep that dime is... I know what coils to use in trash, open fields and heavy mineralization.
What more do I need in a detector? How about made in USA, and lifetime warranty? Pretty sure my Tesoros work as deep as most target ID jobs do, and I'm not running out of places to search... Having fun is all it's about. ^_^

 

[marcomo]

I know I've always gotten great service from Tesoro.

Rusty Henry has created a lot of Tesoro goodwill with his master skills and friendliness.

 

[thump7]

I know I've always gotten great service from Tesoro.

Rusty Henry has created a lot of Tesoro goodwill with his master skills and friendliness.

X 2

 

[TN Mike]

...I'm one of those few hold outs that enjoys hunting with that type of tech.

Same here. I like my beep & digs. I also prefer using quality film cameras (and do my own developing - 35mm and medium format), and I prefer spinning vinyl records to hearing digitized..
No need for target ID; I'm competent enough with my Tesoros to do what I want, and I'm still learning. I know how bottle caps click and around how deep that dime is... I know what coils to use in trash, open fields and heavy mineralization.
What more do I need in a detector? How about made in USA, and lifetime warranty? Pretty sure my Tesoros work as deep as most target ID jobs do, and I'm not running out of places to search... Having fun is all it's about. ^_^

Same here also. I've played with plenty of VDI machines only to discover that the VDI is mostly worthless.

Even machines with sizing capabilities..

But, my ears can tell me how small a target is 99% of the time.. and good audio feedback will even tell me what I'm about to dig. My Bandido micromax II's audio is awesome! I wish it had a VDI only for the extra information, as I consider VDI second to audio.

I dug 20 rings all by audio last year. Almost a half ounce of gold worth. I dug most of these gold rings at baseball fields, in areas where there was nothing but tabs. No coins at all (cleaned out).. just tabs and small foil trash.

I bet most of those rings showed up as pulltabs on VDI's.

You all keep on using those VDI's And remember not to dig pull tabs or foil.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

...I'm one of those few hold outs that enjoys hunting with that type of tech.

Same here. I like my beep & digs. I also prefer using quality film cameras (and do my own developing - 35mm and medium format), and I prefer spinning vinyl records to hearing digitized..
No need for target ID; I'm competent enough with my Tesoros to do what I want, and I'm still learning. I know how bottle caps click and around how deep that dime is... I know what coils to use in trash, open fields and heavy mineralization.
What more do I need in a detector? How about made in USA, and lifetime warranty? Pretty sure my Tesoros work as deep as most target ID jobs do, and I'm not running out of places to search... Having fun is all it's about. ^_^

Same here also. I've played with plenty of VDI machines only to discover that the VDI is mostly worthless.

Even machines with sizing capabilities..

But, my ears can tell me how small a target is 99% of the time.. and good audio feedback will even tell me what I'm about to dig. My Bandido micromax II's audio is awesome! I wish it had a VDI only for the extra information, as I consider VDI second to audio.

I dug 20 rings all by audio last year. Almost a half ounce of gold worth. I dug most of these gold rings at baseball fields, in areas where there was nothing but tabs. No coins at all (cleaned out).. just tabs and small foil trash.

I bet most of those rings showed up as pulltabs on VDI's.

You all keep on using those VDI's And remember not to dig pull tabs or foil.

Haha so where do your rings comes in on your Bandido?
Lately I've just been setting below foil and digging the crap out of everything. Haha lots o trash. But I'm always curious where people's gold rings they find disc around. If mostly around 5c then I can knock out foil, maybe miss a couple fine gold pieces, but still get rings... I hope.
Would you mind sharing the general area where those rings for out in the Bandido II ? I love mine. The audio freq is awesome. I like it a lot better than my modern tesoro tone.
Thanks!!

 

[OregonGregg]

Hey Stefan, you can try the technique that Monte and I use. We will hunt together and sometimes he uses his Tesoro machine. Being diff. freq. we can hunt close together. So when his little machine beeps, I just step over with the Makro Racer 2 and swing my coil over the target....and I'm like , naw not a good target. A bit later another beep will come out of his little machine so I'll just step over and swing my coil over it...Hey, ya got a coin this time, better dig it. lol

 

[TN Mike]

...I'm one of those few hold outs that enjoys hunting with that type of tech.

Same here. I like my beep & digs. I also prefer using quality film cameras (and do my own developing - 35mm and medium format), and I prefer spinning vinyl records to hearing digitized..
No need for target ID; I'm competent enough with my Tesoros to do what I want, and I'm still learning. I know how bottle caps click and around how deep that dime is... I know what coils to use in trash, open fields and heavy mineralization.
What more do I need in a detector? How about made in USA, and lifetime warranty? Pretty sure my Tesoros work as deep as most target ID jobs do, and I'm not running out of places to search... Having fun is all it's about. ^_^

Same here also. I've played with plenty of VDI machines only to discover that the VDI is mostly worthless.

Even machines with sizing capabilities..

But, my ears can tell me how small a target is 99% of the time.. and good audio feedback will even tell me what I'm about to dig. My Bandido micromax II's audio is awesome! I wish it had a VDI only for the extra information, as I consider VDI second to audio.

I dug 20 rings all by audio last year. Almost a half ounce of gold worth. I dug most of these gold rings at baseball fields, in areas where there was nothing but tabs. No coins at all (cleaned out).. just tabs and small foil trash.

I bet most of those rings showed up as pulltabs on VDI's.

You all keep on using those VDI's And remember not to dig pull tabs or foil.

Haha so where do your rings comes in on your Bandido?
Lately I've just been setting below foil and digging the crap out of everything. Haha lots o trash. But I'm always curious where people's gold rings they find disc around. If mostly around 5c then I can knock out foil, maybe miss a couple fine gold pieces, but still get rings... I hope.
Would you mind sharing the general area where those rings for out in the Bandido II ? I love mine. The audio freq is awesome. I like it a lot better than my modern tesoro tone.
Thanks!!

I keep my disc at 3.8. Here i can still get small foil and if I'm digging tons of it I just bump up to 4 and it starts to break up.

With the Bandido II micromax, all you have to do is get a good hitting target, switch to all metal while off of the target, the sweep over the target at your normal speed (for me kinda fast).Rings sound like something out of a cartoon with a double d coil like the clean sweep. Booiiinngg. Coins will have this sound as well but not as pronounced. And its not as pronounced with a concentric, but is still readable with some practice.

Im wanting to buy a small DD for super trashy areas where the clean sweep is to big. I use the 5.75 in bad spots but it just cant bang hard on rings like the CS.

 

[OregonGregg]

one of these days I'm gonna have to take my Bandido II Micromax out and do some beep and digging. Darn thing is still new in the box and has never been out yet.