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Detech 13" for Sovereign is for sale

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deepdiger60

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It looks like the new Detech 13" coil for the Sovereign GT is out :clapping:
 
I can see trying one of those on my Excal this summer. :detecting:
 
ZOFCHAK said:
I can see trying one of those on my Excal this summer. :detecting:
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I was going to get a SEF 10x12 for the GT but i will go for the 13" instead :detecting:
 
deepdiger60 said:
ZOFCHAK said:
I can see trying one of those on my Excal this summer. :detecting:
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I was going to get a SEF 10x12 for the GT but i will go for the 13" instead :detecting:
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Is that your SEF for sale on the bay? I have a brand new 10x12 and 12x15 that have never even hit the dirt. Just figures I pick them up and a few weeks later Detech comes out with a new one.. :rofl:
 
ZOFCHAK said:
deepdiger60 said:
ZOFCHAK said:
I can see trying one of those on my Excal this summer. :detecting:
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I was going to get a SEF 10x12 for the GT but i will go for the 13" instead :detecting:
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Is that your 12x15 on the Bay? :) I have a brand new 10x12 and 12x15 that have never even hit the dirt. Just figures I pick them up and a few weeks later Detech comes out with a new one.. :rofl:
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Figures right ! no i wish i had the 12x15 if i did i would not sell it , i guess the new 13" is water proof ?? Jim
 
I guess we birthed this coil by all the SEF back orders we placed. Good Job:thumbup:
 
I can not wait for his write up.

HH
Jason
 
VERY COOL! Glad they are making it for the Sovereign. Wonder then if KellyCo is going to carry it? Still haven't heard from JW about it. Think I'll shoot him another PM and ask if they will now since it's being made. That coil sure does look like a Pro Coil. Only question is will it be soaking in too much ground matrix in some soils to show any depth advantage over the 12x10, because as said the 15x12 I owned didn't get as good of depth as the 12x10 because of this. Think around 12" or so might be the limit for my soil, but maybe you can push it to 13" and still show improvement in depth without the target quality degrading due to the ground signal it's soaking in. I would suspect that coil will have better separation than a typical DD, because it is shaped like the Pro Coil and that coil has better separation, but I don't expect it to get as good of separation as an SEF due to the unique shape of an SEF which really tightens up the left/right width of the signal.

Watch the Explorer forum as Bryce has already put out a report on this coil and it did well for him, and soon he's supposed to write a more extensive field report on it and how it compares to the 12x10.

Hey, I converted the weight of that coil from grams to ounces. 480 grams is only 16.9315 oz! Just over one pound. Now THAT'S light!
 
This alone should improve hunting quit a bit

MORE ACCURATE TARGET IDENTIFICATION.

MORE STABLE GROUND AND BETTER OVERALL FIELD PERFORMANCE

BETTER SENSITIVITY



I weighed my SEF 10x12 0n my 500g scale i cant it,s to heavy i need a bigger scale so the Detech 13" is lighter Jim:detecting:
 
Look at the other Coil Weight Chart thread. I weighed the 12x10 with and without a coil cover. I just bumped that thread up with the new coil information on the 13 incher.
 
Here's Bryce's field report thus far on the 13" coil. Can't wait to read his in depth 12x10 comparisons to it. I think he prefers the 12x10 over the Pro Coil for depth and a few other things based on what I've read in the past.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,1673794
 
Anybody order this coil yet? And if so, please post a review of it compared to what other coils you own (10" Tornado, S-12, 12x10, WOT). I'd just love to read how this coil compares in both separation and depth to the 12x10. I doubt it has as good of separation as the 12x10, but I'd be real curious to hear if it's deeper...And if it's deeper in somewhat mineralized soil or only in neutral soil.
 
Just got a PM from JW. He said he's going to check into if KellyCo is going to carry the Sovereign version (they already carry the FBS version) and get back to me. I'll post that info when I receive it.
 
Critterhunter said:
Just got a PM from JW. He said he's going to check into if KellyCo is going to carry the Sovereign version (they already carry the FBS version) and get back to me. I'll post that info when I receive it.
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If KellyCo has it that would be quicker sending then England what i find though is England has cheaper shipping rates then KellyCo at least the last 3 items i paid for from there . The 13" would cost 12.95 USD from England , KellyCo $14.95 USD, cost of coil in England is $ 214.00 , KellyCo $199.00 . Total differance in price $12.00 cheaper at KellyCo
 
Good info, thanks. Got a PM from JW and he said the middle of May is when they expect to have the Sovereign version of the 13" coil in stock! Come on people, if you got one on the way from the UK how about a field report?...And tell us if you have neutral soil. I have no doubt this coil will get deeper in ideal contions but I bet it won't in somewhat mild mineralized soil or worste than say the 12x10 or 10" Tornado stock coil. Just seeing too much ground matrix and thus degrading the target signal. I plan to ask Bryce what his soil is like if he finds the 13" is deeper than the 12x10 in his soil. I feel the 12x10 rides on and sees even less ground matrix than the stock 10" Tornado due to the 12x10's super tight left/right detection field, as well as it's less "fuzzy" detection field all around than a typical DD coil.
 
Separates better than 10x12 not nearly as well as a Pro coil.. Boyancy similiar to 10x12 but moves through water easier.. Pro coil is less boyant of all & moves through water easiest of all .. In perfect world 13 incher is deeper, in the real world on real targets it seldom is a better signal than the Pro coil.. For a 13" coil it is very well behaved & doesnt detect outward like the 10x12 does. Very similiar to a X-12... I like it much better than the 10x12, never did like them..Spoiled I guess...
To clarify,, for my type of hunting, pre hunted sites, There is normally a reason my finds are still there,.usually nearby iron or pulltab etc.. The combination of the excellent depth & separation ability of the Pro coil normally trumps any slight improvement in depth & loss of separation from any larger coil produced to date ..... If you hunt in different conditions, your results may vary .....wildherre
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I find it curious you say it separates better than the 12x10 but not nearly as well as the Pro Coil? From most of what I've read from Explorer/Etrac users they (in general) tend to say that the 12x10 has better left/right separation than the Pro Coil. Many say the 12x10 is deeper than the Pro Coil as well.

I can't see how the 13 incher, since it looks to be modeled after the Pro Coil (which does have excellent separation, by the way), would have better separation ability than the 12x10 due to the SEF's unique compressed coil design width wise...Which in effect really shrinks or compresses the width of the detection line. Stranger things have happened, though. So maybe there is some quality to the 13 incher's field that I'm not seeing represented in the physical coil design layout.

What kind of soil do you have? I'm betting (may be wrong) that the 13 incher won't show an improvement in depth over the 12x10 in moderate or severe mineralized ground, because the 15x12 actually lost depth for me over the stock 10" coil or the 12x10. I feel the 12x10 actually rides on less ground matrix (thanks to it's super tight detection field width wise and also a less "fuzzy" field all around in every respect that it generates) than a conventional coil of the same or even a somewhat smaller size, and so is able to achieve higher sensitivity levels and greater depth despite my ground being somewhat mineralized, in additon to just the pure physical size of the 12x10 being bigger and thus should have better depth in that respect as well. (Boy, that was a mouth full. Should have broke that up into several sentences but I'm sure you get the jist of what I'm trying to say.) :biggrin:

Look forward to more of your views and pros and cons on these coils, so keep it coming. :thumbup:
 
I checked out this E-bay site last week, you'll need to read the fine print as they will not ship to the US:

I would love to try this coil on the excalI and will be ordering one as soon as it is availble in the ststes.
I too contacted Kellco last week to inquire about this coil and was told they it will NOT be available for the Soverign line, I really don't think that they know untill it show up.

Posstage to: Worldwide

Excludes: North America, South America
 
You had the best site for Sovereign info and we miss it, anything to do with the Sovereign was on that site.
On the coils for the Explorers I liked the pro coil, the X12 and have a 13 inch NEL coil I want to try and haven't yet, but my Friend James did and felt it did well. I had a 12X15 SEF on my E-Trac for a short time before someone wanted to buy it and was very happy with that coil. I sold it to a guy that had the 10X12 SEF and after trying the 12X15 he sold the 10X12.
 
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