Customer Feedback

[thump7]

My dream Tesoro, here goes.

The Lobo, packed in the umax shell. The sound of this machine is great, it already has a fast re-tune and great depth, I prefer single tone, but for those who need the multiple toned machine, a sum toggle that STAYS toggled in either single tone or multiple tones would be nice, using dual disc in conjunction with multiple tones would surely lead to fine target identification.

What I would love to see changed is a 10 turn GB, the Tejon dual disc and AM trigger, at least 2 maybe 3 frequencies - 18, 12, and 5khz.
A volume knob would be great. I like the counterbalance weight the Tejon has with the batteries under the cuff, what it needs is a stronger design, maybe instead of plastic hinge doors destined for failure, a circular battery pack which is molded under the arm cuff and has a screw-on synthetic, O-ring, sealed cap.

So packed on the face of the new machine there would be:

2 discrimination knobs (disc 1 should be able to click down into AM)
1 volume knob
1 sensitivity knob
1 threshold knob
1 10 turn GB knob
1 frequency shift toggle (18, 12, and 5)
1 sum toggle
underneath the control housing would be the dual disc/AM toggle

Looking at all the features of the new machine, I wonder if it would all fit into the Umax housing. what might be needed is a new housing design. Maybe a longer, tubular design with all the knobs and toggles on the underside to keep branches from snagging and messing up the setting.

A few thoughts anyways. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with.

 

[daddyflea]

I have several Tesoro detectors and have owned most major brands. My Cortes screen is too small to see and the tones on it are worthless.

I would like to buy a Tejon that has 3 separate Discrimination settings to cut out pull tabs instead of two.

 

[Tico]

Change the name of the Euro Sabre II put it out to american hunters for a good price and let me try one.
Been wanting to try one for years but there to hard to find here and to expensive when you do.

Otherwise I'm happy swinging my cutlass's and Vaquero.
We don't need no stinking Meters

 

[Bleaver]

n/t

 

[Bleaver]

Actually found 2 gold rings last week with my modified Silver Sabre uMax. But if they made this an option I'm afraid it would cut into the Golden uMax market share.

 

[Bleaver]

n/t

 

[Scott K]

[size=medium]1) Manual ground balance option.

2) A large stock coil included might be a good idea.

3) Also, I think the option to set the threshold at which the machine will produce a sound would be a good idea.

4) A depth meter is a must, because if it's beyond the ability of the machine to discriminate, then it's deep enough you'll want to dig it anyway if it's a coin size signal, since it's likely below any possible trash.

Those are my practical suggestions, and I know you have some models that already have those features, but needless to say those must be included.

5) Perhaps an object size indicator. I saw this on another manufacturer's machine and considered getting one at one time but read reviews that suggest the depth is lacking, plus it's a beast to swing. Apparently even Tesoro's mid range models beat this other one on depth although this other company considers the machine their "top of the line". If however Tesoro has considered that and found such indicators not reliable then it's best to leave it out. Besides, most experienced users know by the strength of a return signal if it's likely that the object is coin-sized anyway, so this is not essential.

I suppose what I'd really like to see is an imaging function that would give a pic of what's in the ground down to at least two feet and perhaps a little pointing arrow function that says "This coin is extremely valuable" if it's one that is, but I understand why I can't have that.

Is this going to be an entry level model to replace the Silver Umax, a mid level model, or a high end "flagship" model?

That would help in picking an appropriate name. For entry level I'd suggest "Rogue". I've seen reviews of Tesoro's Silver Umax (the one I'm currently using) and the opinion of most writers is that while you appear to keep things simple, you're also keeping them more capable, since the Umax compares better than entry machines from other makes they've tested, yet is very reasonably priced. Since Tesoro didn't follow along and do what everyone else was doing with their entry level machines like making them all digital, no knobs, styling them to look like something out of a sci-fi movie, I'd suggest rogue for an entry level model.

For a mid range machine I'd suggest "Cazador" (hunter), because it's a serious level machine, and "hunter" is a name that suggests it's single mindedness.

For a flagship model, I'd suggest either Eclipse (as in "eclipse the competition") or Sentinel. I like Eclipse the best myself, since with a higher end model you intend to eclipse the performance of your competitors

I think it's a fair guess that you will too. I read an account of a hunting session with one of Tesoro's mid-range detectors and the fellow doing the hunting says he'd put it up against most other manufacturers' machines that are up to 400 dollars more any day. You guys are doing a great job.[/size]

 

[Scott K]

[size=medium]I'll also add to that above that I love my Silver Umax. I've noticed that it gives quite a good signal on something even as small as a dime when discrimination is past "tab", and a lot of entry level machines don't do that, especially at the 4 or so inches down I dug that dime at, and it was somewhat up on it's side. Great machine for the price. I may be getting one of the upper range machines in a while... looking forward.[/size]

 

[Chestnut]

General use detector that is waterproof to 10' that uses any headphone.

 

[digginLa]

Low freq for silver, VDI, 4 tones, notch, auto gb and a backlight for night hunting.

 

[bigjon]

that what sale metal detector Find deep deep silver coins. be nice have 2 tone high tone and low tone and water proof and have Ground Balancing and work in iron

 

[Hytinaerhi]

Tesoros don't need screens or fancy VDI's. If you want a Minelab detector, go buy one (I did).

I think Tesoro should concentrate on what has made their detectors popular in the first place, then improve on that. I believe being simple to use, light and effective are the key words here.

There are some features however which Tesoro should seriously start putting on their machines to remain competitive. I'd like to see some of these:

1. Tone ID. Two or three tones would be enough, with variable break points this is a fantastic feature. The single tone machines just aren't very attractive any more.
2. DD coils as stock, with CC as optional and not vice versa. Seeing a detector come with a CC coil is a big turnoff to most potential customers.
3. Multi-frequency. You only need the ability to switch between 2 frequencies, medium and high (8 and 16 KHz, for example) and you have a VERY attractive feature right there.
4. Weather proofing. Most people don't need a detector you can dive with, but one you can use in the rain without worries.

Make a Tejon 2 with better iron disc and all of the above features, and you have one superb machine right there.

 

[Hank68]

Super low kHz ,ground balance , tones, waterproof

 

[khouse]

VLF. Amphibian. Reasonably priced. Target ID.

 

[Detectojer]

[size=medium]Just bring the golden back !![/size]

 

[Scanman]

Tesoros don't need screens or fancy VDI's. If you want a Minelab detector, go buy one (I did).

Good for you! now go play with your minelab. There are folks that would like to see a new Tesoro VDI.

 

[Hytinaerhi]

There are folks that would like to see a new Tesoro VDI.

Sure, but why? Tesoro isn't famous for making fancy detectors, they are famous for making light, affordable, powerful and relatively simple ones. I think the Tesoro folks should stick to what they are good at.

 

[Scanman]

There are folks that would like to see a new Tesoro VDI.

Sure, but why? Tesoro isn't famous for making fancy detectors, they are famous for making light, affordable, powerful and relatively simple ones. I think the Tesoro folks should stick to what they are good at.

When the latest Cortes and Deleon were released they were top notch units, I would like to see Tesoro continue being competitive, and not limited to beep and dig. Just because Tesoro has not released a new VDI unit, does not mean they are not good at building one?

 

[lawbambam]

Im really hope they are releasing another vdi because i really want one and im sticking with tesoro because they have the knobs and switches. I dont like searching through menus. If i want to adjust something its right there. Simple fast and fun, we are already trying to find stuff that is lost or hidden why do it on the detector.
HH Lawrence

 

[Wraytex]

"we are already trying to find stuff that is lost or hidden why do it on the detector."