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MarkCZ said:.... I have two generic brands that took about 8.5 hours to drain to 0.8v and the Ray-O-Vac High Energy took 10hrs & 28minutes
which surprised me a little.....
Tom_in_CA said:MarkCZ said:.... I have two generic brands that took about 8.5 hours to drain to 0.8v and the Ray-O-Vac High Energy took 10hrs & 28minutes
which surprised me a little.....
Were those "generic brands" alkalines ? If so, that surprises me too.
Monte said:The signature batteries from Albertsons Grocery and Exide batteries you bought at Rural King we're not real fresh batteries either. The 'Signatures I sent expire in 2026 in the Exide batteries your bought expire in 2024.
However, even though they've used up a few years of shelf life they still had a very good voltage out of the package and both of them gave Better, or B-grade Run-Time performance compared with some of the big names most people are familiar with. Another big name although not familiar in most stores were people shot, are the AC Delco batteries, produced by a large battery maker in China, and they fall in that same grade range.
A lot of good information keeps coming forth.
Monte
Monte said:MarkCZ;
Well, let me clarify something here!!!
They are several of the general (generic) house brands that DO NOT CLAIM on their package of having a 10 year shelf life, I'm looking at the Exide package right now and I don't see anything about
them being an EXTENDED LIFE battery!!!! it only has a best if used by 11-2024 so it ???COULD??? be that they're very fresh if they they are only a 5 year battery!
I'll check my remaining packages to confirm what I can which ones are and are not labeled as being a 10-year battery! And I'm pretty sure I included the 10 year (or more) claim in the Notes Column for
the ones that made that claim on their packages or other labeling.
More To Come!
Monte adds:
I had some power loss at my own this weekend due to very high winds, right when I was busy replacing batteries in several flashlights. Fortunately, it went out during daylight and was restored just before dark. That gave me time to get half of my flashlight up-to-speed with fresh power before it happens again.
Today I made the battery shopping trip I missed out on this weekend as I wasn't feeling well. I bought some fresh batteries for me to use for testing and I'll be sending 4 of each set to Mark on Thursday or Friday. I bought the freshest batteries I could find, and reading the packages gets interesting and brings up questions. For example:
• One package of AA alkaline batteries has the Month and Year of "Use By" date on the very bottom of the battery. They are standing up in a box and plastic wrapped. You can't see the bottom of the battery, and nowhere on the package does it show the date. That means unless you open a 40 or 48 pack of batteries, you have no clue how new, or how old, they might be. Those are the JobSmart from Tracor Supply. But 48 of them for $5 was worth the price if they test out to last long enough for the cost.
• The 'Dura Lock' Duracell batteries I sent Mark read:"Dec. 2023" on the battery. The package I opened reads: "Guaranteed 10 Years in storage." So, would that 10 years go until th Battery Date of Dec. 2023 in storage? Well, the front of that 40-pack reads: "Best Before 2023" ???? Now, if they say the date is Dec. of 2023, and the back of the package is labeled copyright 203 Duracell, then the Guaranteed 10 Years should go through to Dec. of 2023 as per the guarantee and the battery date and production year. Then thy say Bst Before 2023. So, that would be Dec. of 2022 and you'd lose a yesr of that so-called Guarantee.
• One package I just bought today, after going through everything they had on the display racks, is the freshest. The outside of the 60-count package reads: "Best if used by July 2028" so they give an actual 'Use-By' Month and year. But these newer-style 'Signature' batteries, from Albertsons Grocery only say: "Guaranteed Long Lasting" but don't say anything about 'how long' the Long Lasting' is supposed to be. I does, however, read: "Our Promise .. Quality Satisfaction 100% Guaranteed or Your Money Back." The package also reads: "Made in U.S.A. with US and Global Parts." I called to day and they verified these batteries are made in the USA.
[size=small](By the way, I bought these batteries because I have been using them in metal detectors and flashlights without a problem and getting 'Better' than average Run-Times. The package I opened to send 4 of the 60 to Mark was dated 12-2026 so they had already met 3 years of 'shelf life' yet produced 8 Hr. 30 Min. in his tests. And that '60' pack of AA alkalines I got in 2016 or 2017 cost me $10.00. That breaks down to a little under 18½¢ each! this brand new package I bought today, Dated for July 2028, was not on sale. It was the 'Regular Price' of $12.49 a pack of 60, and that makes them only 20.[size=small]8[/size]¢ Fill a T2, F75, CoRe, Relic, Racer 2, etc. for $84¢, and a Classic ID, IDX Pro, MXT series, MX-7, XLT, V3i, etc., or a Garrett GTAx or newer model with the 8-AA's in holders and it will set you back a whole $1.[size=small]68[/size] to go have a lot of fun! I am hoping this newer, fresher package I just bought will provide similar of better Run-Times, too.)[/size]
• And since we're talking about 'house brands' or 'budget 'dollar' stores, or less-mentioned brands, I stopped at a NW store that is one of my favorites, BiMart. They don't have a 'house brand' but they sell Energizers and Panasonic. I haven't bought any Panasonic batteries for a couple of years, and those were a 'budget' offering at Family Dollar. They didn't last long. These look different and are very fresh! It's an 8-pack [size=small](4 for Mark and 4 for Me)[/size] and they are labeled: "Panasonic Platinum Power" and the package says: "Advanced Formula" and also has: "Protects Power for up to 10 Years." Now the package does say: Made in Thailand, packaged in USA." And even better for our testing purposes, the battery 'Use By' date is: 1 - 2030 so these should be fresh and we are at the start of the 10-year period! I believe they cost $3.[size=small]98[/size] for an 8-pack, making them 49¾¢ each.
Just a little more to figure out when reading packages or the batteries. What might wonder what do they mean, or where were they made, but the good news is going to be after the testing is done. Then we'll have an idea of which battery is the longest running and also figure in the cost per battery to se what's going to be the best deal for what we want and need.
Monte
7centsworth said:I appreciate all the time and effort you have put in this project. I was glad to see rural king exide batteries on here to. I have been using them for a few months and at the price I can't beat them. Thanks again.