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Your experience with gold ring travel and sinking in saltwater "SAND"

These kinds of tests and observations can have a real result at the end of the year in terms of how much return you realize for the hours of hunting you do!

Each bit of hunting ground is effected by different sorts of currents and wave actions with differing results.

The key, in my opinion, is to be very observant of the sand's movement over a long period of time so as to get an accurate understanding of the results of storms, changes in wind direction and even tide changes.

It's just getting to know your hunting turf.

Adding to that observations of people and where and how they congregate on a beach and in the water will provide you with some valuable info when it comes time to hunt!

GL&HH Fellow Hunters,

CJ
 
Wow, please keep us informed as to when you seed them and when they start showing up. I look forward to seeing the results, Gerry
 
In your last post, I see you found a 1961 silver quarter. Unless you have had some storm erosion, or unless someone just lost that 1961 coin, i'd guess that you must have hard bottom stopping coins and rings from sinking deeply?
Otherwise, that old coin should have been sunk out of reach many years ago!
harvdog42 said:
The results of the sand movement really surprised me. Even inside the break water there seems to be a large flow of sand. Imperceptable yesterday after four hours but I went back today and the ring that I threw out in four feet of water had moved about fifty feet north. I thought maybe this could have been the result of the small bobber pulling on it so I went and checked the ring that was closer to shore. That ring has nothing attached to it. The ring had moved north about five feet. It did not sink mucht and was a strong hit once I found it. Both rings seemed to stay about the same distance from the shoreline. I'll probably go back out tomorrow and check the progress as this beach is quite close to where I live. This was really telling as I will now bias my hunting north when the season gets into full swing.

By the way the breakwater is quite large. I'm guessing it is about ten miles long and about one mile off shore so the sand inside the breakwater definitly has a life cycle of its own.

Harvdog
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Very interesting. I have been following this and want to give it a try. Would not think north is the way they will always travel. Current will change as wind direction changes.
May want to take notes on wind direction and speed too.

Jason
 
Chuck,

I'm pretty sure that silver quarter is a result of a beach replenishment project that is continually ongoing. That particular beach is getting pretty skinny so they bulldoze and carry in sand from other parts of the beach. The bulldozed sand sometimes contains a lot of old coins depending on where they dig it up from.

I''m going to keep an eye on the sand movement and particularly where the rings may stop moving if they ever do.

My gut feeling is that the sand movement is caused by pressure from the open end of the breakwater. The open end is some four miles south of this beach where the real ocean swells can apply pressure. This is only a guess though. I will definitly keep an eye on wind direction. The wind was from the north the day I threw in the test rings. I would have bet my bottom dollar that the rings would have traveled south due to the wind. That's one reason I was so surprised when they traveled north.

I'm going to check again tomorrow. Hopefully no curious kids have eyeballed the bobber and pulled it out. It is relatively inconspicuous though and there are other floating objects in the water so I think my odds are good that it will still be there.

Harvdog
 
To my experience, here in SW Florida. The movement direction will be the direction the strongest tide of the day travels.



harvdog42 said:
Chuck,

I'm pretty sure that silver quarter is a result of a beach replenishment project that is continually ongoing. That particular beach is getting pretty skinny so they bulldoze and carry in sand from other parts of the beach. The bulldozed sand sometimes contains a lot of old coins depending on where they dig it up from.

I''m going to keep an eye on the sand movement and particularly where the rings may stop moving if they ever do.

My gut feeling is that the sand movement is caused by pressure from the open end of the breakwater. The open end is some four miles south of this beach where the real ocean swells can apply pressure. This is only a guess though. I will definitly keep an eye on wind direction. The wind was from the north the day I threw in the test rings. I would have bet my bottom dollar that the rings would have traveled south due to the wind. That's one reason I was so surprised when they traveled north.

I'm going to check again tomorrow. Hopefully no curious kids have eyeballed the bobber and pulled it out. It is relatively inconspicuous though and there are other floating objects in the water so I think my odds are good that it will still be there.

Harvdog
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i must admit these are interesting posts..I'm looking forward to reading more about sand movement..
thanks
john
 
Went out today and had a heck of a time finding the bobber. For good reason. It moved north about 150 ft. over night. It is now about 200 ft. north of where I planted it. It also moved out about 30 ft. out. (ouch)

The ring near shore moved about five ft. north again. This one I had to dig up. You try hitting a signal that sweet and not digging. It's almost impossible. It did not sink any deeper and remained at about five inches deep. I moved it back in line with my marker which is a Palm tree planted on shore near the berm. I may have to reconsider how I follow that ring as moving it back each time kind of kills any future variables.

I hesitate to put anymore rings out there because there where a couple of detectorists on the beach this morning. If one of them finds a pocket of lead rings he'll be all over that spot like flies on you know what. One ring and the odds are against him. I think from now I think I'll force myself not to dig the ring close to shore, even though it will be painful.

I work second shift so I'll be out there looking for the bobber each morning. As long as it is yielding data I'll continue.

Harvdog
 
Jason, that's really not a large amount of movement, to my experience. He is in a "breakwater" not actually the Ocean or Gulf, so his current is more limited. Still, lost jewely in saltwater, does not stay put, as you can see. :drinking:


Jason in TN said:
Thanks for the update. That is unreal that it moved that far.

Jason
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Interesting, I might give it a try next time I go to the condo for a few days... I guess I'll just get a few "rings" from the boating store or skycraft. If I could find the honey hole... well you know...
 
This story is really great, I live in West Florida and have always tried to figure out how targets/sand migrates in my area, and how much targets will sink in the sand as time goes by. Thanks to you guys doing this research.
A good tool to also use is Google Earth and the little Clock Icon at the top. When you have an image of the beach, island, etc. just click on the clock icon and you can go back in time for the last 15 years to the present (back and forth) it's real cool to see things change in just a short amount of time. HH
 
You are welcome! Do some tests, they are fun and a real help in where most gold will be located!
Thanks for that Google Earth info-I gotta try that!!! :clapping:


Suncoast Kid said:
This story is really great, I live in West Florida and have always tried to figure out how targets/sand migrates in my area, and how much targets will sink in the sand as time goes by. Thanks to you guys doing this research.
A good tool to also use is Google Earth and the little Clock Icon at the top. When you have an image of the beach, island, etc. just click on the clock icon and you can go back in time for the last 15 years to the present (back and forth) it's real cool to see things change in just a short amount of time. HH
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I could not find the bobber today. Next time I run this test I will use a slightly larger bobber as the Walmart 1 1/2" bobbers are a little difficult to see.

The ring by the shore did not move from yesterday. I did not dig it though. Could have been gold coin for all I know. Fortunatly the detectorist that was in the area did not run across the planted target.

Detecting is getting a little Blah this time of year around here. Not much wave action, not much swimming, only the sunbathers are out...but not in force.

The most interesting thing I found today was a note in a bottle. Four highschool kids wrote the note and left it in a bottle only yesterday. Each described themselves. Each one thought they were more handsome than the other three. They all four left their email adresses and phone numbers. Talk about desperate. They were probably hoping a babe would pick it up. Maybe I should fake being a babe and write them back. What do you think? If anybody is interested in having fun with these kids, PM me and I will send you their email adresses.

Harvdog
 
Harvdog that would not a a good idea as much fun as it would be. No telling what age they are and with all the on line crap you may get in trouble and be innocently having a good laugh. We may see you on DATE-LINE one night.
 
Ya, it's a weird world nowadays! I wouldn't suggest you mess with them. :confused:


briley59 said:
Harvdog that would not a a good idea as much fun as it would be. No telling what age they are and with all the on line crap you may get in trouble and be innocently having a good laugh. We may see you on DATE-LINE one night.
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Learned something very interesting today by seeding a beach open to real waves. Not waves behind a breakwater. The waves suddenly kicked up and what I learned was quite unexpected.

Harvdog
 
I have found many rings where there is no swimming beach so yes rings travel how much depends on the wind and currents... I mainly hunt areas away from the main swimming beaches... I hunt areas where I believe the prevailing winds and currents during the seasonal changes will deposit such finds and have done very well hunting this way...
 
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