Your experience with gold ring travel and sinking in saltwater "SAND"

[ChuckDiggin it in Florida]

I do too, in the winter, when there are no fresh droppings and the most cuts occur, leaving the dump off spots more exposed.
You can find them [ assuming you have a "drop off" beach, that runs a current lengthwise up and down the beach with the tides ] just by walking the troughs [cuts] and hunting any slightly deeper areas. If i'm hunting along and I notice that in getting into deeper water, without moving out to sea at all, I canvas that area well!

I have found many rings where there is no swimming beach so yes rings travel how much depends on the wind and currents... I mainly hunt areas away from the main swimming beaches... I hunt areas where I believe the prevailing winds and currents during the seasonal changes will deposit such finds and have done very well hunting this way...

 

[harvdog42]

OK CJ,

I have an auction going for lead rings on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130378297874&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

If figure taking the time to make that mold and pour the rings is worth something but...I can't be so sleezy as to not answer your question.

The underlying conditions today at the beach were poor in the wet sand. A lot of sand built up and very few if any heavy targets to be found. I don't think I pulled one coin out of the wet today.

I figured it would be a good time to do some seeding. I threw about thirty of the lead rings out into the surf, offshore about 40 ft. into the water all in one spot about 30 ft wide. I figured it would be another six months before I saw one of those rings. Not so. The surf started picking up as I walked to the other end of the beach. I returned to the spot about a half hour later and there were lead rings everywhere at the surfline close to shore. I think I pulled about a dozen of them out.

Once they stopped moving at the surfline they started to settle in. I think the deepest one I found was about 8" deep. So what does that tell you?...It tells me that even though underlying conditions are poor, if there is a busy day at the beach in terms of a lot of people swimming, stay and hunt the surfline for recent drops. To heck with the underlying conditions. Stuff will show up at the surfline if the waves are big enough. The waves started crashing pretty hard today after I threw the rings out there. I would estimate the waves were at least four to five feet high.

The rest of the rings will do whatever they do. I suspect if I go out tomorrow I will find a few more. But I could be wrong. 24 hours is a long time in sand movement terms.

Now do the right thing and bid.

Have a great day,

Harvdog

 

[ChuckDiggin it in Florida]

I'm sure you were joking with CJ? Just asking, cause I didn't see any smiley faces?
All information shared here is free.
We all invest $ in this hobby to learn what we know.
Now, if anyone was asking you for details on how to make their own rings, then i'd say they could buy some that you made instead.
However, I think the moderator just didn't see your post. I don't believe you are allowed to post links to Ebay at all?

OK CJ,

I have an auction going for lead rings on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130378297874&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

If figure taking the time to make that mold and pour the rings is worth something but...I can't be so sleezy as to not answer your question.

The underlying conditions today at the beach were poor in the wet sand. A lot of sand built up and very few if any heavy targets to be found. I don't think I pulled one coin out of the wet today.

I figured it would be a good time to do some seeding. I threw about thirty of the lead rings out into the surf, offshore about 40 ft. into the water all in one spot about 30 ft wide. I figured it would be another six months before I saw one of those rings. Not so. The surf started picking up as I walked to the other end of the beach. I returned to the spot about a half hour later and there were lead rings everywhere at the surfline close to shore. I think I pulled about a dozen of them out.

Once they stopped moving at the surfline they started to settle in. I think the deepest one I found was about 8" deep. So what does that tell you?...It tells me that even though underlying conditions are poor, if there is a busy day at the beach in terms of a lot of people swimming, stay and hunt the surfline for recent drops. To heck with the underlying conditions. Stuff will show up at the surfline if the waves are big enough. The waves started crashing pretty hard today after I threw the rings out there. I would estimate the waves were at least four to five feet high.

The rest of the rings will do whatever they do. I suspect if I go out tomorrow I will find a few more. But I could be wrong. 24 hours is a long time in sand movement terms.

Now do the right thing and bid.

Have a great day,

Harvdog

 

[harvdog42]

Chuck,

I was not aware that you couldn't post URL's to Ebay auctions, It will not happen again from my end but I wanted to let anybody interested know that the rings are available. After all, we all hunt in different conditions and what happens at the beaches I hunt may be totally different from the beaches other people hunt. I'm not sure who the moderator is but if anybody knows how to contact him or her, please tell them to remove the post. But to answer your question honestly...no I wasn't kidding.

Harvdog

 

[ChuckDiggin it in Florida]

That's too bad, that you were not kidding.
I started this thread and shared info that took me years to come up with and I owned a couple of thousand $ worth of underwater machines to do the tests.
Others here have gained their knowledge to share, through much time and cost as well.
I can't believe because you invested a little time and $ into making lead rings, that you now think your information should be paid for by buying your lead rings? This is a forum for discussion, not for sales. You need to go to the "Classifieds" http://www.findmall.com/list.php?44

Chuck,

I was not aware that you couldn't post URL's to Ebay auctions, It will not happen again from my end but I wanted to let anybody interested know that the rings are available. After all, we all hunt in different conditions and what happens at the beaches I hunt may be totally different from the beaches other people hunt. I'm not sure who the moderator is but if anybody knows how to contact him or her, please tell them to remove the post. But to answer your question honestly...no I wasn't kidding.

Harvdog

 

[Cupajo]

Fellow Hunters,

I for one appreciate Harv's efforts and hope he continues to provide us with his insights about these ring/target movement dynamics.

I appreciate Chuck's sharing this wealth of information and his insights too!!

I didn't know about the rule on posting as mentioned above either and am glad that is cleared up!

I understand both points of view and how you each feel based on your comments.

It seems that it is time to get back to learning more about beach/tide/ring movement dynamics.

Regards and best wishes for improving our fine hobby,

CJ

 

[OldBeechnut]

Pulled up for those that forgot that this forum has had many of the best hunters and great minds on working out how to better one's self and machine.

 

[Grilled Scallops]

Wow, putting the fishing line on the ring and seeing where it goes was something I thought I was the first to come up with! How naive of me. These die-hards have been doing it all along. I didn't even know this thread existed...thanks a bunch for bringing it up. I'll have to read through it when I get the time.

 

[Dancer]

Ole Beech, you went deeep for this one. Last post previously being April 2010. Good one.

 

[OldBeechnut]

Ole Beech, you went deeep for this one. Last post previously being April 2010. Good one.

The good ones you remember .. And there are Many. Findmall has always been more of the experimental, research, tech forum.

One thing to remember, every beach is different..Big Time, [size=large]So like cupajoe said..A hunter must study his/her hunting waters to learn when and where to invest prescious hunting time.[/size]

 

[WaterWalker]

All that has been relayed is enlightening information, but it is specific to the beach where the test was made and under the conditions at the time. Waves and sand movement are all under mother nature's force.

New England beaches are different from my 33 years of experience except for the "catch basins" that I call Glory Holes. My two most memorable were: a Glory Hole of 4 gold rings recovered in one minute (I never moved my feet except to dig) and in the second "hole" it took me 30 minutes to recover 5 gold rings, within 10 feet of each other.
As of today, over the past 70 hours in the water, I have only found 1 gold ring. I guess I must have done a good job of gridding and digging. Maybe they have all moved into water too deep for me to detect or under too much sand.

Speaking about ring movement: I have found and returned several rings that have not moved or moved only a few inches or feet in over night up to many years. Most documented were two class rings lost 38 years before I found them within 5 feet of each other. A man's and a woman's ring lost at the same second on a sand bar about 100 feet off shore, precisely were I found them both within minutes of each other. I returned them to the two high school sweethearts at one big reunion party.

We do have sand movement. I have seen over 6 feet of sand come and go from one side of a jetty and not the other in the matter of a couple of days.

It all boils down to knowing the area you are going to hunt, what the beach should look like to yield finds from past experience, where the gullies should be, how far down the hard-pack should be, where the beach goers stay and play, and of course using the best detector (type) /coil (type and size) combination you have for the given environment. A bit a good luck never hurt. Boy do I need some good luck today!

 

[amberjack]

I seen what showed me about the sand in my area kids had dug a hole way up on the dry sand that if I jumped in would have buried me standing up.

main beach I used to hunt which is pointless even going to now days is the same I would say you would have to be right behind the dropper to find it sand sucks it up down deep and its gone.

would be an interesting test to run on that beach might locate where they all are.

but I have a new place to try this summer totally different sand and well guess I will find out soon enough about how it ticks.

AJ

 

[goldnugget]

n/t

 

[goldnugget]

[video]]https://youtu.be/sIaPlYhch4s[/video][/video] I have never found a Gold Ring on this Beach, only Old Coins. This video is from Jul 2015- Thanks-goldnugget.. Please reply if you are able to view this Video,, Ill keep trying to get it working

 

[wvrick]

Interesting reading, lots of information in these threads.

 

[Dig]

Truer words were never spoken!

Ole Beech, you went deeep for this one. Last post previously being April 2010. Good one.

The good ones you remember .. And there are Many. Findmall has always been more of the experimental, research, tech forum.

One thing to remember, every beach is different..Big Time, [size=large]So like cupajoe said..A hunter must study his/her hunting waters to learn when and where to invest prescious hunting time.[/size]

 

[Dancer]

Hey Dig ! Man haven't seen much from you for quite a while. Hope everything's alright with ya. You took some time to give me some tips few years ago, always appreciated it. Give me a hollar if you like.

Dancer