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You CANT do THAT Here!!

what's odd about common sense!.?.if you are lacking in that most important area,then you have my sympathies!
why don't ya sue 'em next?..maybe you will get lucky and pick up some of your taxpayer money that you have thrown at the schools?
give it a shot!..good luck with that!..do what you want!....i told ya what to do!..go somewhere else,then come back in 6 months and hunt your brains out!
the alternative?..(again!..common sense!!..mr oddball!)..give 'em a hard time,.and then have 'em climb up your a*s everywhere else you try to detect in town!
the choice is yours!..i'm done!

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
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jmaryt said:
what's odd about common sense!.?.if you are lacking in that most important area,then you have my sympathies!
why don't ya sue 'em next?..maybe you will get lucky and pick up some of your taxpayer money that you have thrown at the schools?
give it a shot!..good luck with that!..do what you want!....i told ya what to do!..go somewhere else,then come back in 6 months and hunt your brains out!
the alternative?..(again!..common sense!!..mr oddball!)..give 'em a hard time,.and then have 'em climb up your a*s everywhere else you try to detect in town!
the choice is yours!..i'm done!

(h.h!)
j.t.
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Thanks for you input to this point. Sorry you choose to be done.
 
When I first started detecting a few years ago, I would meet with each school district Superintendent and get their permission for the entire school district. One Super told me "Your a taxpayer, I couldn't stop you if I wanted to."
 
dave5710 said:
When I first started detecting a few years ago, I would meet with each school district Superintendent and get their permission for the entire school district. One Super told me "Your a taxpayer, I couldn't stop you if I wanted to."
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There have been a lot of good comments in all of this, and this is one of them. It is my intent to do so, after I hear from the principal. He may give me permission and it goes no further. We'll see.

However, considering that this has been happening all over the area, I expect the club will need to visit the school board on behalf of everyone. That is the greater point. Detecting is essentially a solitary activity. But sooner or later we must join up and face these things.
 
unfortunately!,as others have said,it's a difficult situation,and can be frustrating as well,however in the final analysis i
would prefer to be hunting because my time is valuable,and i DO NOT have the luxury of wasting it!..good luck to you!
i hope you can gain permission to hunt that school!

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
Hi Folks; I was off line because I was sick but I'm ok now.I agree that it is NOT about bashing police officers.They do have a hard job to do.I would never place them all in one category or other.They are doing their best to protect us all. My point was that it was not until that officer saw that detector that dahut's problem began.I believe shewas WRONG and it wreaked of a power trip.I applaude dahut for his very tactfull approach to this situation.He should be commended for it.:clapping: On the FMDAC I have not heard from or about them for a very long time even though I talked to Dick Stout and Betty White many times on various subjects over the years.I do know some of the inside politics involved in times past. I also know that in spite of best intentions it never really took hold and kind of just faded away. Then I hear of situations like this. It is frustrating. I do not blame or disparage any person or group for its current state. I just wish that we can do something much more definitive about these situations.Hence my applaude to dahut.I hope you keep us all posted on the developements to come.Thanks. PEACE:RONB :thumbup:
 
BARKER said:
Hi Folks; I was off line because I was sick but I'm ok now.I agree that it is NOT about bashing police officers.They do have a hard job to do.I would never place them all in one category or other.They are doing their best to protect us all. My point was that it was not until that officer saw that detector that dahut's problem began.I believe shewas WRONG and it wreaked of a power trip.I applaude dahut for his very tactfull approach to this situation.He should be commended for it.:clapping: On the FMDAC I have not heard from or about them for a very long time even though I talked to Dick Stout and Betty White many times on various subjects over the years.I do know some of the inside politics involved in times past. I also know that in spite of best intentions it never really took hold and kind of just faded away. Then I hear of situations like this. It is frustrating. I do not blame or disparage any person or group for its current state. I just wish that we can do something much more definitive about these situations.Hence my applaude to dahut.I hope you keep us all posted on the developements to come.Thanks. PEACE:RONB :thumbup:
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Hey Barker - I hope you are feeling better.

As you note, this really is a bigger issue than 'ol Dahut wheedling on about being kicked outta the high school. I know, most are tempted to walk away by now and just say. "Lets just go detect somewhere else. It 'aint really our problem, etc...." But, that attitude can only last so long.

What happened to me is happening all over my area, and you hear reports of it on all the detecting websites. It is plain that as detectors have become popular and "mainstream," the eye of those around us are increasingly upon us.

The FMDAC (Federation of Metal Detecting and Archeological Clubs) has always been concerned with organizing detectorists and giving a voice to the hobbyist. But it has always relied on detectorists banding together both locally in clubs and nationally through the FMDAC lobbying on our behalf. But today, most clubs have faded despite the growing number of detectorists. It seems most detectorists prefer to remain solo, outside the organized club environment. This leaves the FMDAC more of a clearing house resource for those few clubs that do exist anymore.
For example, findmall has thousands of users on this forum. This topic alone has gotten 107 posts to date.
The FMDAC has a forum, too, and when I asked about this issue there, a total of FOUR responses were posted. Does this indicate the amount of support we are giving the one organization that has ever supported and promoted our hobby? You do the math.

The longer we consider this sort of event someone else's problem, the closer it will come to each of us. Since the public responds to most concerns nowadays by shouting, "They need to pass a law!" and clamoring for the government to step in - well we had best be ready to ask permission in advance or mount our own defense.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - - Sir Winston Churchill
 
Good luck with your quest for gaining permission to hunt the school. You have put your case here on the forum clearly, calmly (under the circumstances) and concisely. If you present your case to the Principal (or whoever) then at least you can say that you have done your best. In the past, some Principals used to take the view that while there were "good" people around the school, people who had permission to be there, then the "baddies" would stay away. Perhaps a point you could make in your favour. All the best.
 
Hi Furious; Thanks.The guy who had the problem was dahut.I agree.Tact is the purose for the moment. Thanks. PEACE:RONB :thumbup:
 
Hi dahut; Your right. Hitler once said that "if you say a lie loud enough and long enough, the lie becomes truth." , he should knew that one. The lie here is that we as detectorists are saying to ourselves that "this is someone elses problem."; it's not. I've been hearing this lie for 39 year now. I respect the FMDAC due to its efforts no matter how feeble.I also understand everyone elses views as well. The old saying here could be "the squeaky wheel gets the grease. We need more squeak.!!! I have encountered the same problem here in the Massachusetts region. Someday detecting "may" be banned everywhere.I do applaud your tact and approach.It is a good thing that someday you can look back with pride and think to yourself that you definitely are, have and did your part for this hobby.Enjoy your memory.!!! :clapping: :please: . May God bless you and yours. PEACERONB :thumbup:
 
There is such a thing as common sense and so far you havent convinced me that either of them have any.
The excuse, "Well we have break-ins" is lame at best. My, what a threat to security you were.
 
The local detecting club VP contacted the school superintendent about detecting at area schools, once he heard about my incident. She told him that permission was granted and agreed that having the "good guys" there detecting was a good thing during off hours. However, when I contacted her personally to thank her, she knew nothing about such a conversation!
Apparently, the news got around, because the person he spoke to knew of my run in with the police. But whoever it was, it wasnt the School Superintendent, and it remains a mystery just who it was.

Madame Superintendent's response was that she had spoken to no one, but was open to the situation... meaning noncommittal.
She said she would contact the school principal and get back to me about it. I had already sent him a request, and I have heard nothing yet from either of them.
The utter lack of communication after a week and the fact that she is going to the principal for clarification instead of acting, outright, bodes ill. But we will see.

So it currently stands in limbo... no answer, no permission. Close, but no cigar.
Make a mental note from here out: Whenever you speak to anyone, about anything, get their full name and commit it to memory!

PS The ACLU did respond but only to get more contact information about me. Whether they will offer any support is also in question.
The FMDAC seems to have fizzled completely.

So it is back to me.
 
Its simple they all think they are better than us.They look at us as the simple little people,if they were like us once it went out the door when they got their tin badge and gun.If your not one of them your on the wrong side of the fence period!To serve and protect ? not us thats for sure.:ranting:
 
Last person I call on earth if someone is breaking into my house would be police by time they respond I would be dead,that why I keep myself a shotgun loaded and ready to fire one in the chamber
 
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