Well said & I agree with you 110%. Had two Ace 250's and a Ace 150 and about every Tesoro know to man (and woman) and the Ace will not hold a candle to any Tesoro model, no matter how new or old of a model it is. Steve.AUDuke said:IMO stay away from the Garret Ace, it has a very irriating " Bell Tone" that dings after you have passed the target,and is hard to pin point with. Not in the same league as Tesoro. JMHO