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The biggest problem with the AT Pro is....

I use both land and water machines. And there are trade offs on both. When you find the perfect detector with no trade-offs let me know I will be the second person in line behind you to buy one :) :) :) :) For now I think that the feature set of the AT Pro comes as pretty close to perfect as we are going to get for the time being. As long as it has great depth to go along with all of it's other advantages I am sure that I will be very happy with mine when it arrives. Now if it has all these great features but not much depth I am not going to be a happy camper. So only time will tell! For now I am just going to be optmistic and hope that Garrett has come out with an awesome detector in the AT Pro. JMHO

HH

Beachcomber
 
Whether or not the AT Pro turns out to be the best detector ever released remains to be seen. I think the headline would have been less of an issue if they had said the most versatile detector ever released as I believe from the features that it possesses that it could actually be the most versatile detector ever released. I have been detecting for around 30 years now and I don't remember ever seeing a detector with all the features of this detector in one machine! JMHO

HH

Beachcomber
 
If it does a fairly descent job of detecting salt beaches and land,then the water proof feature goes a long way as I see it.....hh
Dan
 
According to reports the depth is great. With a hot new DD coil - what else? Garrett listened to the users this time and done their homework well. Thay finally came out with a near "universal detector" as one can get with current, and affordable, technology. If they came out with one equipped like everyone really wants it would cost $5000. HA.

Bill
 
Yeah I've been at it for 45 years and field tested a ton of different brand detectors and I ain't never seen one like this one - not even close. Garrett is probably betting the farm on this one so don't think they'll screw it up. Just think what will be coming down the line later if this one is a big success. We could be looking at entering a whole new era of detecting.

Bill
 
I don't mind delayed gratification, just as long as I can have it right away.

I'm looking forward to the AT Pro - it will be my very first detector. I hope it's everything that someone who said nice things about it said it would be when it arrives, which I hope is soon.

Winter is a great time to go detecting because the ground is soft from the rain and that makes it easier to dig. :detecting:

-BD
 
This is what I expect... Garrett users are going to love it. Some people who have never used a Garrett are going to love it, some are going to be "so so", and some wont like it... some will buy it looking for the good and some will buy it looking for something to be wrong with it.

I think it will be a good relic machine but not the best Garrett coin machine. I imagine it will find coins ok but in my mind... I see a machine that is built around a great coil design. They brought the coil out first, stuck it on an ACE-250 and stuck an ACE-350 sticker on it. The Pro mode looks like it gives modulation and a faster recovery to the machine, maybe more but that is obvious. I agree, it is a good coil design. You can get it up next to things and hunt up to fence posts and trees.
It has a very good tone system that can beadjusted different ways in a wide iron range. It may seem limited to some but I think the choices are plenty. One of the things that will confuse a new user more than anything I have seen is too much audio. It seems to me that they gave it enough audio choices and it will help people to use it, make good finds and that without getting confused.

Yes, it has been hyped too much BUT that is ok. Everyone just needs to forget all the secondhand hype and rumor. If you buy this detector you need to buy make up your mind to find what is good about it. Garrett hasn't put out any junk that I know of. The Infinium LS is a great detector. The ACE series is a huge hit. From what I understand Garrett users have been asking for a Garrett relic machine... this is it. Waterproof, man... that is a good idea, I may buy one just for that. A relic machine that I don't have to worry about in the rain... GOOD! Yeah, I could have bought a Troy but I didn't. I have a Tejon and a cover... not spending money on a Troy but this Garrett might be a fun machine. Maybe it is deep but frankly, I do not want, nor do I need, to dig 14" holes in hard ground. I need good seperation. I need the features I see on this machine.

I'll probably wait a bit before getting one but I fully expect some to rave and others to gripe... that's the way it always goes.

Just think about what your buying before you buy it. Forget the hype. It is a relic machine that will also find other targets. It has a good coil design and you don't have to head for the truck if it starts raining.

It sells for a good price but it is a price that should be remembered when comparing it to machines that cost twice as much... you usually get what you pay for. I do think that technology is giving us better machines for less money but not this much this fast... it isn't going to beat a 1500 dollar machine... IMO, but if you want to be happy with it you will.

J
 
That isn't hype.. that is rumor... :spin:

J
 
Well I didn't really see them pushing it as a Relic Machine but the 15khz frequency will make it good for low conductive targets like buttons and gold. So sometimes what is good for Relic Hunters is also good for gold hunters. There are no 15khz waterproof machines out there right now and even if there were there is no water machine with the feature set of this machine. Now I have no problem with digging 14" holes for a good target especially on the beach on in a lake. Now a 14" hole on a junk target on land isn't much fun :) I like that they give an option of using a normal audio so that beginners that buy it won't be overwhelmed with all the sounds and when they are ready they can jump into the the advanced audio options. As you said once it's out we will start to see where it excels and were it doesn't. I am looking forward to finding that out for myself :) :) :) Only a couple of weeks to go and we will all start to find out more about this versatile new machine!

HH

Beachcomber
 
Most intelligent post I have seen about the AT Pro ......

jbow said:
This is what I expect... Garrett users are going to love it. Some people who have never used a Garrett are going to love it, some are going to be "so so", and some wont like it... some will buy it looking for the good and some will buy it looking for something to be wrong with it.

I think it will be a good relic machine but not the best Garrett coin machine. I imagine it will find coins ok but in my mind... I see a machine that is built around a great coil design. They brought the coil out first, stuck it on an ACE-250 and stuck an ACE-350 sticker on it. The Pro mode looks like it gives modulation and a faster recovery to the machine, maybe more but that is obvious. I agree, it is a good coil design. You can get it up next to things and hunt up to fence posts and trees.
It has a very good tone system that can beadjusted different ways in a wide iron range. It may seem limited to some but I think the choices are plenty. One of the things that will confuse a new user more than anything I have seen is too much audio. It seems to me that they gave it enough audio choices and it will help people to use it, make good finds and that without getting confused.

Yes, it has been hyped too much BUT that is ok. Everyone just needs to forget all the secondhand hype and rumor. If you buy this detector you need to buy make up your mind to find what is good about it. Garrett hasn't put out any junk that I know of. The Infinium LS is a great detector. The ACE series is a huge hit. From what I understand Garrett users have been asking for a Garrett relic machine... this is it. Waterproof, man... that is a good idea, I may buy one just for that. A relic machine that I don't have to worry about in the rain... GOOD! Yeah, I could have bought a Troy but I didn't. I have a Tejon and a cover... not spending money on a Troy but this Garrett might be a fun machine. Maybe it is deep but frankly, I do not want, nor do I need, to dig 14" holes in hard ground. I need good seperation. I need the features I see on this machine.

I'll probably wait a bit before getting one but I fully expect some to rave and others to gripe... that's the way it always goes.

Just think about what your buying before you buy it. Forget the hype. It is a relic machine that will also find other targets. It has a good coil design and you don't have to head for the truck if it starts raining.

It sells for a good price but it is a price that should be remembered when comparing it to machines that cost twice as much... you usually get what you pay for. I do think that technology is giving us better machines for less money but not this much this fast... it isn't going to beat a 1500 dollar machine... IMO, but if you want to be happy with it you will.

J
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Beachcomber said:
Well I didn't really see them pushing it as a Relic Machine ....
Beachcomber
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You must not be looking very hard. The first picture you see in the At Pro glossy is a guy using it in a farm field - relic hunting ground. The designer says right up front in his piece of the long video that he designed it first and foremost for the "professional relic hunter". The first few videos that Garrett released of it in the field are all of guys relic hunting and finding civil war bullets and other relics. I could go on buy just go look at the pictures on the Garrett web site, there are several pictures of it being used for relic hunting and only one or two of it being used in water....

They are pitching it as a relic machine first and foremost but one that can do other things. Plus look at the feature set - expand iron range with 40% of the possible target IDs for iron, you only need that kind of resolution if you are relic hunting. All of the latest single frequency relic machines such as the T2 and the F75, the tesoros are all at 13 Khz so 15 Khz is a perfect frequency for relic hunting. If it was designed as a coin shooter the frequency should be down around 6 Khz where all of the rest coin shooters are, the ability to mark part of the iron range as good targets that plays the middle tone - another relic machine feature.

I am a serious relic hunter and these are all features that made me pre-order this machine, it looks like it is going to be a great relic hunter. I always thought that Garrett was mainly focused on coin machines so I was really surprised but pleased when I saw all these relic machine features on a Garrett and I made up my mind to pre-order one when the chief engineer said he built this machine primarily as a relic machine. Boy I can wait to get mine out in a hay field or a corn field. I got an old barn foundation I've been saving too.
 
That they kept it simple... is one of the things I like most. I expect it to be a hit but I do not expect it to be the best detector ever made nor do I expect it to compete well with a 1k+ detector, but I expect it to be a good machine. I think it's biggest problem will be living up to the hype... I hope I am wrong and I really hope that people will disregard the hype, read the manual and give the machine to be what it is without expecting it to be the best detector ever made... then be plesantly surprised if it really is. I am sure it will make great finds and you wont have to be an engineer to figure out how to use it.


J
 
I hope you have another good relic machine to compare it to on iffy and deep targets. I'll be interested in that.

J
 
jbow said:
This is what I expect... Garrett users are going to love it. Some people who have never used a Garrett are going to love it, some are going to be "so so", and some wont like it... some will buy it looking for the good and some will buy it looking for something to be wrong with it.

I think it will be a good relic machine but not the best Garrett coin machine. I imagine it will find coins ok but in my mind... I see a machine that is built around a great coil design. They brought the coil out first, stuck it on an ACE-250 and stuck an ACE-350 sticker on it. The Pro mode looks like it gives modulation and a faster recovery to the machine, maybe more but that is obvious. I agree, it is a good coil design. You can get it up next to things and hunt up to fence posts and trees.
It has a very good tone system that can beadjusted different ways in a wide iron range. It may seem limited to some but I think the choices are plenty. One of the things that will confuse a new user more than anything I have seen is too much audio. It seems to me that they gave it enough audio choices and it will help people to use it, make good finds and that without getting confused.

Yes, it has been hyped too much BUT that is ok. Everyone just needs to forget all the secondhand hype and rumor. If you buy this detector you need to buy make up your mind to find what is good about it. Garrett hasn't put out any junk that I know of. The Infinium LS is a great detector. The ACE series is a huge hit. From what I understand Garrett users have been asking for a Garrett relic machine... this is it. Waterproof, man... that is a good idea, I may buy one just for that. A relic machine that I don't have to worry about in the rain... GOOD! Yeah, I could have bought a Troy but I didn't. I have a Tejon and a cover... not spending money on a Troy but this Garrett might be a fun machine. Maybe it is deep but frankly, I do not want, nor do I need, to dig 14" holes in hard ground. I need good seperation. I need the features I see on this machine.

I'll probably wait a bit before getting one but I fully expect some to rave and others to gripe... that's the way it always goes.

Just think about what your buying before you buy it. Forget the hype. It is a relic machine that will also find other targets. It has a good coil design and you don't have to head for the truck if it starts raining.

It sells for a good price but it is a price that should be remembered when comparing it to machines that cost twice as much... you usually get what you pay for. I do think that technology is giving us better machines for less money but not this much this fast... it isn't going to beat a 1500 dollar machine... IMO, but if you want to be happy with it you will.

J
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My self i think all the $1500.00 detectors are over priced for what you get.... I think a lot of mid priced detectors will find just as much and as deep as the $1500.00 detectors....... Now this is what i have been told that the Omega 8000 is as good a detector as the E Trak and just as deep...........Nd i think that AT Pro will suit me just fine can't wait till that little brown truck shows up with mine......
 
jbow said:
I hope you have another good relic machine to compare it to on iffy and deep targets. I'll be interested in that.

J
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F75 is my main inland machine right now. Used to have a T2 that I liked a bit better but I could resist selling it last winter during the African gold rush craziness. Bought a F75, a DFX and a Fender Strat with the money I got for that T2. Anyway the F75 is the machine I will put it up against. Used to have a Explorer XS too but my shoulder got too old for it. The DFX fitted with the 6x10 DD running in mixed mode isn't too bad a machine for the fields if it is set up correctly for the conditions.
 
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