Tesoro Golden uMax ???

[Tinfoil]

Then use a rubber plug to plug the hole up. thanks HH : : Jerry aka Tinfoil

 

[John LA]

May not be the hard part but most important. Thanks John R

 

[JB(MS)]

Remove the screws holding the face plate on, lift the face plate up and you'll see two blue trimmer pots. The ground balance trimmer is the blue pot inside the red circle. The other blue pot adjust the tones and notch up and down the disc range.

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[JB(MS)]

He posted as TXJB on the depot but haven't seen a post by him in a while. He put the pot in a glued on plastic box.

 

[JB(MS)]

The trimmer pot is very sensitive, a tiny move makes a big difference and it would be kinda tough getting the balance just right using a screwdriver. My Golden was ground balanced way too positive when I got it, but since my ground is mild and very consistent I took the face plate loose and balanced it with the trimmer pot instead of adding an external pot. Because so little movement is required it took several tries before I got it right.

 

[SkiWhiz]

Although I don't have a Golden, being a satellite dealer for over 20 years and fixing many satellite receivers I have to add that surface mount pots.,etc. are very fragile & it doesn't take much to break them. By turning one way or the other too much or by simple adjusting them alot could ruin them. If you do use a screwdriver to adjust the pot. use a small plastic one. Please be careful when adjusting! Thanks! Steve.

 

[Old California]

Hi Tinfoil,

JB is right, It can be done but you're putting the trimmer pot in danger and can easily be damaged.

Do what JB did, Set it for your general area and leave it alone from there. That would be the next best solution rather than adding on an external pot.

HH, Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

For posting the GB trimmer pot location,

HH, Paul (Ca)

 

[Tinfoil]

n/t

 

[John LA]

n/t

 

[amcjavelin]

Hey everyone and hello just bought a brand new golden umax and can't wait, i'm hoping i will do just as good as i've done with the silver umax, to me the golden seems like the under dog of the tesoro detectors i have a brand new 12 x 10 coil to play with for it to, I think this machine is under rated other than the people that take the time to learn it, like alot of reviews most are claiming the tones are way to close together or the notch features don't work as great as claimed well when i recieve it i'm going to try to learn the ins and outs of this bad boy because being a tesoro I have alot of faith in there products and not only that there not over priced like a minelab or whites or fishers detectors, now this is just my opinion, if people could live without V I D and just listened to the tones and had a few more patience they would have a trained ear which they would be almost a discriminator them selves but i guess to each there own, I've owned 3 other vid machines in the past and found them as a distraction and about 40% accurate, the machines i've owned in the past were the white's m6 ,discovery 3300, and the bounty hunter time ranger, any opinion about this is welcome

 

[dahut]

Here's my opinion - you're right on all counts.

As Mike Hillis says, "Tones Rule!" and having them makes a huge difference. They give you enough ID function, without slaving you to a VDI display. Yet 4 tones and two other sounds are not burdensome to learn. They make for fast detecting as you can develop a smooth routine with just tones to go by. And the way the Golden notch features are arranged, you can ID most any pulltab range target, all the way down to nickles, with precision.

Many of the people who talk down the Golden either do not take the time to develop an ear for it, or are put off by it's seeming lack of depth.
Since you cannot deselect the tones, you must live with them. For folks who cannot get used to them, I can accept their discomfort. After all, some folks just don't like them.
As for lack of depth, well... the Golden is not the deepest detector out there, but it will hit coins reliably at most practical depths. I dug a quarter with mine last year at 9", measured. Repeatable, sweet, high tone with an inch or more of depth remaining. Not too shabby, right?

If you want the deepest old silver from the bowels of the earth, requiring a backhoe and excavation permit to recover - don't get the Golden. But if you want a handy, quick acting detector with great tone ID to cover 80% of ALL detecting you'll ever do, go ahead and get one.
If you find you don't like it after 30 hours of use - let me know. I'll happily buy it from you.

 

[SkiWhiz]

For some reason I think that you like the Golden David and seems that Mr. Hillis does too. I have had many Tesoro's in the past 25 years of detecting (my favorite brand) but no matter how hard I try I can't take the multi-tones not just on the Golden but any multi-tone detector. I have tried to like them many times but it just doesn't happen. I guess everyone is different and to each his/her own and whatever works is good. I like the "sweet" sounding single tone Tesoro's myself. Steve.

And you mentioned that the Golden isn't the deepest as stated by some other members. But in my opinion all the Tesoro's have the same depth (except the Tejon of course) probably some of the folks commenting on the depth of the Golden has never used one & is only going by here say. I just got a Conquistador (non uMax) and have heard that is isn't as deep as the other older Tesoro's, I have to beg the difference, I have only had a chance to use it twice (cold up here in upstate N.Y.) but found it to hit hard on coins just as deep as any of the other Tesoro's I have owned and that is a number of them.

 

[amcjavelin]

the way it sounds i think i'm going to like this detector very much and i really can't see myself sell it unless i can't develop the ear for the tones but who knows i'd think it would be harder with that single tone to master other other than the high and low tones, i learned that with the silver umax if i had tad bit of crackle of what sounded as good signal chances are it was a pull tab the blasted aluminum one espeacially, since were on the subject of tones, on the golden where do the tones come in on like a brass shoe, or belt buckle or buttons? the places i generally hunt are old home steads, cellar holes, fresh water beaches, old school houses, hotel sites, churches etc. i will be coming out with some video's this summer of some hunts, ok thanks for the info and remember tesoro the name means treasure!

 

[SkiWhiz]

the way it sounds i think i'm going to like this detector very much and i really can't see myself sell it unless i can't develop the ear for the tones but who knows i'd think it would be harder with that single tone to master other other than the high and low tones, i learned that with the silver umax if i had tad bit of crackle of what sounded as good signal chances are it was a pull tab the blasted aluminum one espeacially, since were on the subject of tones, on the golden where do the tones come in on like a brass shoe, or belt buckle or buttons? the places i generally hunt are old home steads, cellar holes, fresh water beaches, old school houses, hotel sites, churches etc. i will be coming out with some video's this summer of some hunts, ok thanks for the info and remember tesoro the name means treasure!

I hope that you will like the Golden amcjavelin and sure you will. It says that the Golden has 4 Tone Audio ID but I found that it had more than that, sometimes you can get a mix of any of them (thats what drove me nuts) at the same time. Kind of like a TID machine that is jumping around on the scale but with sound instead of visual. Like I say everyones hearing is different and we all prefer different things, the way I hunt is I set my discrimination to just knock out a small nail & dig the rest, so it doesn't matter if I have a single tone or a detector that had 100 tones. No matter how you cut it - it's a Tesoro so it's gotta be good. Steve.

 

[slingshot]

I think the reason I would like it is because I have a little show-off in me and people whom I detect with are always asking what does this target register as or something similar. I think it would keep them wondering if I could say"that's a pencil eraser, or that's a corroded zinc penny, etc. I've done it with other tonal detectors before by taking in account the size of the signal, the duration of the signal, and the 4-way test. I had set the tonal system on the lowly Tracker so that I could tell the type of pulltab by the amount of low-high tone mix and whether the low tone was at the front or the tail of the signal. I tried setting my Royal Sabre this way, but the width is apparently too wide. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even bother with the Golden-just my Royal Sabre. Anybody know how to change the notch width?

 

[dahut]

I think the reason I would like it is because I have a little show-off in me and people whom I detect with are always asking what does this target register as or something similar. I think it would keep them wondering if I could say"that's a pencil eraser, or that's a corroded zinc penny, etc. I've done it with other tonal detectors before by taking in account the size of the signal, the duration of the signal, and the 4-way test. I had set the tonal system on the lowly Tracker so that I could tell the type of pulltab by the amount of low-high tone mix and whether the low tone was at the front or the tail of the signal.

You could do that with the Golden uMax, given a bit of practice. I can tell you the type of pulltab with it, before digging.

I tried setting my Royal Sabre this way, but the width is apparently too wide. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even bother with the Golden-just my Royal Sabre. Anybody know how to change the notch width?

Probably gotta go inside and adjust a trim pot.

 

[dahut]

For some reason I think that you like the Golden David and seems that Mr. Hillis does too. I have had many Tesoro's in the past 25 years of detecting (my favorite brand) but no matter how hard I try I can't take the multi-tones not just on the Golden but any multi-tone detector. I have tried to like them many times but it just doesn't happen. I guess everyone is different and to each his/her own and whatever works is good. I like the "sweet" sounding single tone Tesoro's myself. Steve.

And you mentioned that the Golden isn't the deepest as stated by some other members. But in my opinion all the Tesoro's have the same depth (except the Tejon of course) probably some of the folks commenting on the depth of the Golden has never used one & is only going by here say. I just got a Conquistador (non uMax) and have heard that is isn't as deep as the other older Tesoro's, I have to beg the difference, I have only had a chance to use it twice (cold up here in upstate N.Y.) but found it to hit hard on coins just as deep as any of the other Tesoro's I have owned and that is a number of them.

I do like it, mostly because I am familiar with it. When I frst got it, I thought it was a quirky, cranky little beast.
But, I learned along time ago to spend time with any new unit. So I put all the others away for two months and forced myself to use solely the Golden.
After a while it's value began to shine through.
In fact, I rarely consider a detector for purchase now, that doesn't have the multi-tone function. An upside of this selectivity is you'll usually get a unit with more useful features, as those with tone ID tend to start in the midrange of a makers line-up.

You made a good observation on the depth of the Golden, too. When the uMax concept first hit, those who took the plunge learned that it was hot. Those detectors soon became the darlings of the detecting world. In fact, the now defunct Silver Sabre uMax is still much sought after, and often commands a high price. Well, that hasn't changed all that much.
The Golden uMax is nothing more than one of those sharp little uMax models - with a widely adjustable notch function and tone ID. It stands, as such, as a great combination, anyway you choose to shake it.

No, it isn't a multi frequency, programmble wonder. NO, it doesn't hail from some faraway land with a built in mystique... and price to match.
What it is can best be summed up by the comments of one of our posters here. As that person said so well: "It just seems to work."

 

[amcjavelin]

I really like the feedback the golden is getting, to me i'm not sure what is considered a depth monster but anything over a foot you got to work at to dig it and that kind of takes the fun out of it unless you know for sure you got yourself a cashe treasure and besides i'm mostly a coin hunter and buttons more than anything some jewelry, now what i'm reading is people finding quarters and dimes in the 8" to 10" range which is great depth for me up here in the state of maine i usually find coins in the 4" to 6" range on average and another thing to consider also when you go to some of these places we hunt you have to look at the layer of the land and try to decipher whether the land has ever been turned over or excavated in any way to think about if your machine is capable of actually penetrating the original ground to find the good stuff, in some ways I think people expect more out of there machines then what is actually engineered for and not only that would you bring a detector to a park that you would need a back hoe to retrieve your find? If the golden gets down close to a foot in the ground i guess i'll very happy with that.

 

[dahut]

I haven't found that depth I mentioned to be an absolute normal, as much depnds on conditions. In that place, that day, I achieved it and was impressed enough to measure it. I thought I would never stop pulling dirt out of that hole!

But that is one thing I HAVE noticed about it - when there is a good target, like a coin, it gets it very well. The tone will remain high on the copper and silver coins and the audio will get quieter, the deeper you go. But then, you already know that.
If you're happy with the Silver, you'll like the Golden. You may learn to love it.