Technically,...Fisher IS NOT Fisher anymore:unsure:

[reddirtfisher]

Concerning "Fisher" metal detectors I have come to the conclusion that the new Fisher company and their new lineup of detectors are not the old Fisher company lineup of detectors. And technically they are NOT the same company that was formerly located in California. How can I say this? Because you may be one of those people who don't know that Bounty Hunter First Texas Products bought out the original Fisher company and moved them from California to Texas. The new "Fisher" detectors don't look like or perform anything like the old Fisher detectors. So now when we talk about "Fisher" this or "Fisher" that,... we are technically talking about Bounty Hunter. I am not an expert in company procedures but this is how it appears to me. The only thing that stays the same is the Fisher name and trademark logo. Does anyone agree? Disagree? I would like to hear your comments both good and bad. Thanks, RDF

 

[scubadetector]

Well I think the Fisher CZ-20 and the NEW Fisher CZ-21 are the same unit with only a brand new faceplate and pinpoint button. The rest of the machine is exactly the same. The origional Fisher company discontinued the CZ-20 because of a lot of problems and 1st Texas was able to revise it a bit and re introduce it. So I do believe that it is still a Fisher.

I know NOTHING of their land machines. I have only owned White's.

 

[EZrider]

I guess when my F75 is in 4H tone and its the same as a CZ 3d enhanced mode. Nope not Fisher, sorry the streamlined machines of Fisher today doesn't look like a throwback from the star wars era of the 80s.

 

[jim tn]

I guess techically you could be right. But from a technical standpoint, there is no compairison to what Fisher was and is. The F series detectors are so advanced over what Fisher had as the old Fisher, from a practical standpoint, it is not even worth discussing. HH jim tn

 

[jackintexas]

With the new F series of detectors I guess you can say they are not the old fisher. I owned about every fisher made at one time or another. They were good detectors . Nose heavy and awkward as far as balance. I frankly like the new fishers. I have an F70, F4 and a 1235X....Had the old Fisher made a CZ that was as light asnd well balanced as the F75 and F70. But they didn't.....Jack

 

[jmaryt]

hi jack!
what are your initial thoughts about the f-70!...thanks!

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Rick(ND)]

I feel the new Fishers are much better than the old Fishers and why I will use the new Fishers over the old Fishers.
As far as calling them Bounty Hunters being they both are made by First Texas would be like calling a Corvette a Vega being they are both made by GM.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

You are right in many ways and I guess we all resist change. I feel new Fishers are certainly lighter and provide much more ID features and feel it was a meeting of technologizes..If you prefer the old time tested Fisher stand pat but if you wish to enter a new world of Fisher be my guest as they sure have come out with models to satisfy
a variety of hunters and certainly your call...

 

[jackintexas]

I really like the F70 for my kinds of hunting. Mostly coins and jewelry. I think most complaints will be because they are running the sensitivity too high.I generally run my sensitivity about 20. It still gets my measured 9" mercury dime good. The factory preset is 60. When I first started hunting with the Fisher CZ I hated it. Until a good CZ hunter told me to run my sensitivity about 4. Other than the weight and being nose heavy I loved it. I think of it as driving your Chevys or Fords everyday then you get a nasa race car to drive. It is not the same and cannot be treated the same.....Jack

 

[BEAR]

I remember back in the day if you had a Bounty Hunter you had THE MACHINE. Same way with the old Garrett's. I will not down any metal detector. If it will beep hell I will use it. I would hate to think I would have to go back to the old days of beep and dig, but I did find a lot of stuff back then. Now I am too old and too fat to have to go back to the good old days.

 

[vlad]

Charted & funded by the legislature of the State of Texas and comprised of many companies. It has to be reauthorized
ever so often to stay in existence, and the various entities have shareholders. Saying Fisher is First Texas would
be like calling some small company Chase-Manhattan because that is where their money comes from.
I know one thing for certain; if you walk down the main hall Fisher is on one side and Bounty Hunter is on the other.
[Where is Teknetics?] We know that some Bounty Hunter designs have evolved into Fisher designs, the 3300 into the
F-4 would be an example.
So, is Fisher, , or is it ?[And is Tek Bounty Hunter?]
Kind of like reading a rebus loop.

 

[patch]

I HAVE A CZ5 AND USUALLY RUN THE SENSITIVITY BETWEEN 7 & 9. WHY WOULD YOU SUGGEST RUNNING IT LOWER IF YOU WERE NOT GETTING ERRATIC OR FALSING SOUNDS? I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU SHOULD RUN IT AS HIGH AS YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH.AM I WRONG?

 

[jackintexas]

In those days not so many folks in the hobby. Silver and clad coins everywhere....Jack

 

[wade tx]

If works for you, that's all that matters.----Wade

 

[Woodstock]

I respectfully disagree! If what you said had any real basis to it than the GM Vett and the Vega would have the same skins outside. I've had many Fishers in the past and since First Texas bought them they've changed both inside and out. And this change is for the better both inside and out. If the old Fisher would have been able to hold there market share they would have never sold out to First Texas in the first place.
If you have any dought in what I say just take a look at the Bounty Hunter Platitum Series cause there the same again like the T2 and F75. As far a what's inside, I'm willing to bet if you take them apart the gutt's will look different but actually be the same. With todays technology it's simple to rearrange the same circuits on a different board therefore letting have even a different patent numbers. This keeps the brand names apart.
The japanese did it when Sony made VCR's with the same features as RCA who I beleave invented the technology. But at least Sony made there VCR's
outside appearance's different on the outside...................................Only my opinion..enuff said, Woodstock

 

[Woodstock]

TEK is a spinoff of Bounty Hunter. One of there engineers, I think his name was Steve. He left Bounty Hunter and started Tek, and they remerged afew years later. It's when RED BARRON came out and it printed on alot of there old coils and even some of there old detectors. So Tek is in reality and Bounty Hunter. Woodstock

 

[vlad]

to go into the commercial metal detecting business, like those used at airports that you walk through
and hand held security detectors, plus detectors used in logging. This is after they were bought up by
another company and Jim Lewellyn was fired and the new owners decided to gamble
on taking the company in a new direction, more aimed at the commercial sector and the hobby
users left out in the cold. Unfortunately that phase of detecting was pretty much owned by Garrett
and Whites, and they got so deep in the red, they were dumped and bought up by
First Texas. Fortunately, the president of Fisher takes a personal "hands on" approach to seeing that
new innovative designs are forthcoming.
As to Bounty Hunter's Platinum Series, have they hit the market yet?

 

[vlad]

Became a separate entity around 1981 with their engineer being George Payne who left Whites in 1977
and went to Bounty Hunter. When Teknetics declared bankruptcy in the late '80's Bounty Hunter then bought the name
and all the detectors. The people who formed Teknetics are now at DISCOVERY ELECTRONICS which makes
the Treasure Baron which is produced in both modular and fixed form, except for
George Payne, who works with commercial P.I.'s, but also does freelance work in the hobby sector. Word is he
is working on a new "Mk-5" hobby unit.

 

[robert roy]

You know you make a good point.
The OLD fisher detectors were probably excellent detectors, or
at least that is what I heard. Now I am hearing they have gone down hill.
It seems that the NEW owners are not doing the OLD Fisher name any good
at all. Too bad.

 

[chuck ky]

where are you hearing that fisher has gone down hill. every one claims that the f-75 is the best around and i've heard no complaints on the newer ones yet.