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Property owner wants all of your finds

[size=medium]I usually ask if I can use my detector in their yard. If they ask what I'm lookin for. I tell them, I like to see whats in the ground cause I'm interested in the history of the town and township, (if I'm outside of town). By what people lost or dropped, or threw away, you understand a little more about the people that were there before you.[/size] I've yet to go more than 1/2 mile from my own house. But I do have about 5 or 7 places I've got permission to hunt further out.
 
I explain to them that what you'll be recovering will typically have the value of about a quarter of the cost of gas to drive to the property. I'll say, "If you want to keep it, go right ahead. I'll find somewhere else. It's simply not worth it for me to do the work and you keep it." And move on.

If they're that greedy, I wouldn't want to be around them too long anyway.

My two pence.

Richard
 
I would tend to tell them thanks but no thanks. The exception might be if they are wiling to pay an hourly wage and service fee to cover my expenses for driving to their property and clearing it for them.

Mike
 
sounds like he really doesnt want u digging on his prop. & figures if he tells u he wants everything u will just go away without him actually saying no. win win for him. if u say o.k.
 
i concur!..trying to discourage you!..in my opinion,better off just to say no!..no is no in any language!..indisputable!

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
it's ethical!..happens all the time,it's just no one wants to admit it!..although it IS nice to offer something!..these days thought getting tougher to get a "yes!"..nobody wants the liability!..

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
parrothead said:
Has anyone run into this problem? If so what do you do then, dig and say thanks for the opportunity? Also sorry about all of the posting I am doing.


it's really not worth youre time or effort if this guy wants to reap the benefits of your labors:thumbdown:
i look at it like this,this guy is trying to take advantage of you!:angry:

to hell with the detecting pants! toss this guy a kellyco flyer and tell him to have a nice day!:rofl:
 
I don't think most property owner's on this forum would let a hunter search their property and keep their finds.Most property owner's know there are old coins and jewelry of value in their yard and why give it away. I wouldn't let someone search my place for a lot of reasons.While this hunter is mining your yard for valuables the property owner gets paid back with lawn damage and some stranger wandering around in the yard,That sounds like a good deal to me that's why most property owner's say no.I have to laugh at the hunter's who want the property owner to sign a contract they drew up. Happy Hunting but not in my yard. Ron
 
I just cant imagine anyone on this forum that has property not having gone through it with a fine tooth comb allready, & probably not just once if they have owned more than one machine. but u r right Ron thats why its called private property i guess. most people dont want strangers on their property specially these days of every imaginable con artist. phoney cops, meter readers, gas& electric etc. u let them in& they rip u off...... sad but true happens every day & worst is that it's mostly to the elderly who btw probably own most of the properties we would love to detect in.
 
I want everyone who lives near me to realize how uncomfortable and futile it is to try to get permission from strangers to hunt private property... :laugh:
 
When I was young, we would go fishing in surrounding farm ponds on others property or hunt.
The property owners really didn't care because everyone knew everyone, not so now days.
People seem to be more suspicious now and I can understand a lot of it, there isn't as much trust now.
My brothers and I went detecting just about wherever we wanted, only got stared at because most folks didn't know what a detector was.
There are still kind hearted property owners if approached correctly don't mind but not all of them.
This is definitely a different world we live in compared to 30 or more years ago.
 
Metal Detectors are more common and most property owner's are familiar with them.Again,property owner's are aware of the potential finds on their sites.This has nothing to do with trust just common sense.The hunter approaches the property owner and ask can I search your property for valuables because I have a metal detector and if I find your old coins and lost jewelry that will make me happy.Don't these rude or new hunter's understand what these owner's are thinking,which is YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!! Bad PR to bother property owner's to search(rob) their places.
 
Thirty years ago I did not have a problem finding a place to hunt either. Would love to go back now and see what I missed now. The problem is now society in general has grown more disrespectful. When I grew up we were to be seen and not heard, said yes sir and no sir, and taught right from wrong. I just had to put up no trespassing signs on my place. I allowed kids to cross it as I thought it was safer than walking on the road. Including my mail I have been robbed several times now. I now have burglar alarms, posted signs, and stop anyone crossing my property. They even picked up a bat a few weeks ago that I left in the yard where I played with my dog with hitting balls. I will never forget a while back I looked out and saw a very young girl trying fearlessly to untie a hammock I had. I walked out and cut the rope gave it to her and told her I never wanted to see her again. She heard me I guess, never saw her again. That is the reason I think we have a problem getting permission to hunt someone
 
I have been at this great hobby now for 37 year's and I quit asking for permission to hunt yards about 20 year's ago for all of the mentioned and valid reasons. I do still ask farmers and the like for permission to hunt their fields and pasture land and quite a few are still receptive. Oh, I still do get to hunt an old on occasion, by invitation, to try and locate a jewelry item that was lost for the property owner and I do so at no charge, for permission to scan their whole yard. Beyond that, getting permission to hunt yards are usually a wasted effort in this day and time. HH jim tn
 
I kind of think that people in the country (Farm country) are what Steve (MS) is talking about. :wave:Out in Adams County, Ohio,:wave:when you drive by them, :wave:your arm may get tired from waving hi.:wave: Most farm folks are more friendlier.
 
i'de be real curious to find out how many other detectorist had ever had this reply from a home owner while asking
permission to hunt their property.
i for one have never heard these words,and reguardless of any out come i have never been rude,
even after doing the research-asking permission-then getting shotdown! it's always(thank you very much sir and have a nice day)!
then a "damn it" in the car
neither-rude or new
i have heard replies such as,"sure go ahead i'll be curios to see what you may find",or "no i'de rather you didn't",or "no it's already been done",or the guy that gives you permission one day then comes back the next and says"i really don't think this is a good idea after all"or the guy that was so amazed by the fat indians that i had just given him from an adjoining property"ya! go ahead"
or the old lady that was more ambitious about what we were doing than we were, trying to get us to detect inside the grave yard on her property which we declined
i'm pretty sure that i know what this owner was thinking "GREED"all this guy is seeing is someone dragging chests of gold coins off his property.
publicity-GREED,hoards of silver and gold uncovered by detectorist in fields of england,jar of gold coins found by detectorist,etc.
what do you think the answer is going to be from a land owner who knows nothing about what we do except for what he sees in the paper or on the television=YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!!,no sir i am not,i take what i do very seriously,here is your kellyco flyer and have a nice day sir
CALLING A FELLOW DETECTORIST A THEIF IS BAD PR!
 
On-edge, the point is it is bad PR to to challenge any property owner because they won't let you hunt on their property.Again there are many hunter's who feel the same way as I do about this problem.On my farm one gate left open will have a horse running down the street into traffic a injury or death to the horse and a person plus lawsuits Do research on parks that's where most of the good finds are.Ask this property owner and again its No. HH Ron
 
Try what I do. Went to a local coin shop and bought a couple of banged up Mercs for less than a dollar. When the owner wants part or all of my finds I gladly give them the Mercs and clad. Meanwhile any good coins I found go in an old glasses case I carry in my shirt pocket and always have my back turned toward from the house when digging so I can deposit them and not be seen. Noone is going to ask to see your eyeglasses. A little decietful but it works and the owner is happy with the mercs and seeing the trash I am taking out of his yard. Always let them know some of the dangerous can slaw was just under the grass where their kids or grandkids would have gotten hurt. Good PR. I only do this if I think the property is worth the time and effort, otherwise I thank them and go somewhere else. Most people just want to see what was in their yard and let you keep what you found. If I find something personal I gladly return it to them. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
I'm with you on this Jim, I don't go out of my way to ask home owners if I can detect their yard but I do ask property owners about fields, woods and old abandoned home sites, I really like the challenge of old house sites that either the structure no longer stands or is abandoned.
Now for friends or family, their yards are fair game.
 
Ron from Michigan said:
Metal Detectors are more common and most property owner's are familiar with them.Again,property owner's are aware of the potential finds on their sites.This has nothing to do with trust just common sense.The hunter approaches the property owner and ask can I search your property for valuables because I have a metal detector and if I find your old coins and lost jewelry that will make me happy.Don't these rude or new hunter's understand what these owner's are thinking,which is YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!! Bad PR to bother property owner's to search(rob) their places.



Since I started doing this in the spring I guess I qualify as a newbie. But I am most definitely not rude, a robber or damaging the hobby.

When I ask permission, I am told yes more than I am told no. I am polite, friendly and non threatening at all times. Doesn't matter if the answer is yes or no my demeanor is the same.

With me this is not a one-sided deal.

I offer my extra detector for free if the homeowner or anyone else they designate wants to hunt with me.

I offer a free lesson in using it.

I pick up any trash I come across, below or above ground.

I promise to share any big finds (four figures or more). And when that finally happens I absolutely will.

You like to hunt in parks and I know there are a lot of good finds there. But I also know there are a lot of good finds in old yards and that's where I like to hunt.

I love this hobby and consider myself an ambassador for it. My public relations are good!
 
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