If you can stand up, get out and do some walking, gentle if you have to, but get moving and keep moving.....I first injured my back 22 years ago.....not too bad, had to be off work for 6 weeks.....aggravated the injury about 4 years ago....thought I'd just gone to hell.....CT scan showed about 4 times the damage (some of it due to ageing) as in 1988....felt like c..p, but the one thing I refused to do was to give up detecting altogether....after giving up on Drs. and getting help and advice from people who knew what they were talking about, I did more, better and regular exercise....felt heaps better and hardly have to take pain killers, so long as I dont overdo things or do something stupid....a woman named Sarah Keys has written a few books on back injury and back pain and how to handle the pain, and how you can actually improve your situation....if you can find one of her books they are well worth reading. One person whose opinion and advice I respect told me that if my back is feeling sore and stiff and thightening up, go for a walk instead of lying down (unless it is really, really bad)...it works....John was right about the wallet in the back pocket too....I haven't carried anything in my back pockets for at least 4 years now...Good luck with the treatment...dont give up...alcohol applied internally can be a great relaxant if required...work on strengthening the stomach muscles...they help support your back. I still detect, but have to limit myself sometimes as to time spent in the field, and have to limit myself as to weight of detector used. Keep a straight back when detecting...i.e. adjust the rod so that the coil is just above the ground when you back is straight. Most of us have a natural tendency to bend forward slightly when we are swinging...stay aware of your posture whilst detecting, and you shouldn't have much trouble....you will have to sort out for yourself how you go about extracting finds from the ground...your back should tell you when you are doing the wrong thing. I was told by a sports injury Dr. (who was great) that we put 60% more stress on our lower back when we sit as opposed to standing, so be selective of your chairs. The longer you do the right thing by your back, the longer it will last. HH
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Leslie(nova scotia)
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From the land of the BLuenose.....prayers go out for you me son and good luck on the writing. Just finished an article for the UK mag Searchers.
Mick in Dubbo
New member
I'm sorry to hear that you're suffering from back pain Chris. It can be very debilitating. The Chiropractor may be the way to go if you've got a good one. I went to one a few months ago as an old neck injury flared up again. The first time round, he said it was too dangerous to touch, but this time, after 3 visits, although still sore, I got a lot of my mobility back.
Glucosamine is an excellent supplement to take on a daily basis. It takes a few weeks to build up and start to be effective, but if I don't take it, my neck injury becomes inflamed again and I have a permanent headache till I build up the glusoamine back up again.
A physiotherapist will also be able to get you going again fairly quickly. He can assess the damage and give you the correct exercises to aid your recovery. After seeing 5 doctors, 4 of which miss diagnosed me, it was the physio that was able to tell me what the injury was and get me going again. All the quacks seem to do, is prescribe pain killers and nerve inhibitors which do squat to help you recover. He was even more useful than a specialist that I saw, I whom I found be be about as useless as most quacks are. He also did exactly nothing. I had to waist my time looking up his nostrils as well.
Save yourself some grief and find a good physio that can actually aid you in your recovery. The quacks can help keep the pain at bay while you do.
good luck and I hope you're moving around freely soon.
Glucosamine is an excellent supplement to take on a daily basis. It takes a few weeks to build up and start to be effective, but if I don't take it, my neck injury becomes inflamed again and I have a permanent headache till I build up the glusoamine back up again.
A physiotherapist will also be able to get you going again fairly quickly. He can assess the damage and give you the correct exercises to aid your recovery. After seeing 5 doctors, 4 of which miss diagnosed me, it was the physio that was able to tell me what the injury was and get me going again. All the quacks seem to do, is prescribe pain killers and nerve inhibitors which do squat to help you recover. He was even more useful than a specialist that I saw, I whom I found be be about as useless as most quacks are. He also did exactly nothing. I had to waist my time looking up his nostrils as well.
Save yourself some grief and find a good physio that can actually aid you in your recovery. The quacks can help keep the pain at bay while you do.
good luck and I hope you're moving around freely soon.
Mick in Dubbo
New member
I just checked that post I just posted and found a glitch in it. Where there are simbles were a word should be, the word I actually typed but used the spell check on, is suppossed to be 'assess' as in, check out. Perhaps it thought I was trying to use a naughty word and put a more polite expression in there.
Mick Evans.
Mick Evans.
Mick in Dubbo
New member
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You were wise to change doctors. A lot of doctors have no sympathy for patients in acute pain and a lot of them are scared by the DEA into not prescribing pain pills. A few years ago a Doctor was arrested and sentenced to 45 years in federal prison for over prescribing pain pills. What they did not allow his lawyers to tell the jury was that he saw the top 3% of acute patients that no other doctor could help and naturally they needed more and stronger pain medicine than someone with a minor back injury.
When I was injured in 1996, the doctor would X-ray me everywhere but where I was hurting and I should have changed doctors. Too late I found out I was injured for life and in my state, you only have 1 year to file a claim for work related injury. My doctor was working for the company I worked for, not me.
One thing I mentioned in another post was Castor Oil rubbed on your back or joints really helps. Just put a towel or something under you to keep from staining the furniture or your clothes. rub it in good and it will help. Get the pure Castor Oil.
When I was injured in 1996, the doctor would X-ray me everywhere but where I was hurting and I should have changed doctors. Too late I found out I was injured for life and in my state, you only have 1 year to file a claim for work related injury. My doctor was working for the company I worked for, not me.
One thing I mentioned in another post was Castor Oil rubbed on your back or joints really helps. Just put a towel or something under you to keep from staining the furniture or your clothes. rub it in good and it will help. Get the pure Castor Oil.
bulletman
Well-known member
Cwilk:
I used to have really bad lower back problems. I would get down so bad - that I could only crawl. Doing anything other than sleeping while my back was out was miserable. Finally went to the doctor and after many medications - finally was prescribed Skelaxin. Skelaxin is a muscle relaxer, and I would take one or two when I felt like I was going down. I have 2 bad discs - and when one or the other gets out of place and starts pinching a nerve - then my back starts tearing muscles apart. The Skelaxin has been a life saver for me. Just thought I would throw that out to you - maybe it'll help
Bulletman
I used to have really bad lower back problems. I would get down so bad - that I could only crawl. Doing anything other than sleeping while my back was out was miserable. Finally went to the doctor and after many medications - finally was prescribed Skelaxin. Skelaxin is a muscle relaxer, and I would take one or two when I felt like I was going down. I have 2 bad discs - and when one or the other gets out of place and starts pinching a nerve - then my back starts tearing muscles apart. The Skelaxin has been a life saver for me. Just thought I would throw that out to you - maybe it'll help
Bulletman
Uncle Willy
New member
Thanks for the tip.
Bill
Bill
Chris, Sorry about your pain. Nice coin thought! I have a bulging disc at my L5 vertebra. My butt, calf and foot were like vibrating one day and I couldn't do anything. My doctor prescribed some sugar pills with no effect. I got an MRI and went to a pain clinic and they said I needed an epidural. I said you could use a chainsaw on me if it would help! I think the shot had an inflammatory, steroids, cortisone and something else. I can tell you this though. When they gave me the shot it was very painful for about 15 seconds!!! Remember this!!!! But at 16 seconds the pain was gone! I went on to have two more injections that year. (your only allowed 3 per year) The pain is still there all the time but has never returned as bad as before the shots. I too have my spells where I can't put my pants, socks and shoes on. 800 Mg's of Ibuprofen help me get through it now. I'm sure one day I'll have to go under the knife. Warning - this is NOT medical advice..
I'm not fond of the pills either. I've been taking one or one and a half 10 mg hydrocodone for four days straight. I feel groggy when I wake up, almost like a hang-over. My scrip says no more than 6 a day. I think I'd be comotose on that many. I also went to a chiroprator and feel pretty good right now. I coul detect but it's raining and I should wait a bit. My birthday is in a few days and I might try an hour hunt to celebrate. We'll se how that works out.
Chris
Chris
It will work all right. My doc gave me a minimal amount of Hydrocodone. Only 30 pills for every 3 months! It wasn't enough. So I started breaking the pills in half and swallowing them with a couple of cold beverages of hops and barley. Seemed to work as good as a whole pill. Again this is not medical advice!
My last doc gave me a scrip for 30 and told me he wouldn't prescibe them again for a year. I told new doc who said take it easy on them but if you need to take one, take it. I always start with a half and see how I feel.
I don't know why I stopped imbibing, but I did. I remember a few years ago many of my posts began something like, "Had a wicked hangover when I woke up and figured some detecting would make me feel better." Then ended, "It was such a great day I celebrated with a nice big glass of whiskey." I can count on four fingers the number of days I have drank since Memorial Day. (Memorial Day, Forth of July, July 11, sometime around Labor Day.
Chris
I don't know why I stopped imbibing, but I did. I remember a few years ago many of my posts began something like, "Had a wicked hangover when I woke up and figured some detecting would make me feel better." Then ended, "It was such a great day I celebrated with a nice big glass of whiskey." I can count on four fingers the number of days I have drank since Memorial Day. (Memorial Day, Forth of July, July 11, sometime around Labor Day.
Chris
Hiya Mick. I have experienced your situation first hand. I pay my own medical bills and doctors always look at me sideways when I tell them that I appreciate their efforts to be thorough but I would also appreciate anything they could do to cut costs. A few of the questions I've asked lately are, "How is testing my cholesterol going to help my back?" "You ordered complete bloodwork seven months ago at my yearly check-up. That cost me $280. Could we forgo that this time?" "Why are you looking in my ear? It feels fine?" Old doc did tons of tests to make sure I could take certain meds and then when everything checked out wouldn't prescribe them anyway. Two years ago he gave me a script for Lidocane (like Novicane) pads for back pain. They cost $210 and did absolutely nothing. I told him this was a complete waste of money to which he replied I want to try every possibility before we try pain killers. I looked him in the eye and told him I need to get back to work. Stop experimenting and lets do something that works. While he never came out and said it, I am certain he thought I would abuse pain killers. 30 vicodin in 18 months. Is that abuse?
I could go on and on but I'll spare you.
I like a few "colorful" words mixed into conversation. At the veterans club I work at there is a sign that reads, no profanity. I still swear like a sailor from time to time. When I'm called on this, my reply is always, "Shit, It was the Navy that taught me to cuss!"
Chris
I could go on and on but I'll spare you.
I like a few "colorful" words mixed into conversation. At the veterans club I work at there is a sign that reads, no profanity. I still swear like a sailor from time to time. When I'm called on this, my reply is always, "Shit, It was the Navy that taught me to cuss!"
Chris