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Oh no, the Outlaw is doing it again..:thumbdown:
- Thread starter Idxpro
- Start date
I myself am not to concerned with extreme depth. The only keeper I have found any deeper than maybe 7" was an 1849 copper. All other keepers have not been that deep, and I have plenty to show. Conditions must also be perfect to find coins that deep on a regular basis like soil type, trash density, moisture, etc... Around iron infested cellar holes, that aint happening. My local parks, can you say trash? Schools, can you say rolled up foil from snack bars? All of these things are in the way so a deep machine just won't get to the deep stuff. Now I have dug super deep in the woods, shot shells, buckles, buttons, musket balls, a barber dime, but again, random woods with not much of anything in the ground, you bet anything at 8" with a halfway decent machine will sound off. I think depth is overated.
Idxpro save your money on shipping your Outlaw back to Tesoro. It's not the detector, it's pilot error.
I spent around 30 minutes trying to figure out what is causing the blaring sound that you are getting. It took awhile but I figured it out.
In a nutshell, you have to re-tune or de-tune over the target after you switch to no motion all metal mode.
Several things can cause the blaring to happen.
Moving the ground balance knob to the negative while in the no motion all metal mode, moving the discrimination knob from a higher setting to a lower setting and re-tuning in the all metal no motion mode at a very faint target and not being able to get back over to re-tune.
It's not all that hard to figure out. Maybe a Compadre would better suit you.
tabman
I spent around 30 minutes trying to figure out what is causing the blaring sound that you are getting. It took awhile but I figured it out.
In a nutshell, you have to re-tune or de-tune over the target after you switch to no motion all metal mode.
Several things can cause the blaring to happen.
Moving the ground balance knob to the negative while in the no motion all metal mode, moving the discrimination knob from a higher setting to a lower setting and re-tuning in the all metal no motion mode at a very faint target and not being able to get back over to re-tune.
It's not all that hard to figure out. Maybe a Compadre would better suit you.
tabman
Oh I am sure you correct Tab and that is why I havent wanted to send her in. I never doubted it could very well be me. Honestly, I still don't get the whole retune detune thing. And you know what, even some very hardcore hunters who have been at it for a while dont either. They think they do though. I recall 53 silver stating it was an optimizing button. For stabalizing the threshold in the event of temperature changes, ground variances etc. Monte says different. Another says it's to retune the machine when changing coils. I know the whole retune thing was popular in some older whites and probably many others, but I don't get it. I know in no motion am i can detune the signal to zero in on big iron or small deep "good target" , and that I do like. But then i switch back to disc and sometimes it's gone until i lift the coil and "retune" it. That is about as much as I know about this button.
See, I never touch my threshold, ever. With thresh to high, ahe has a little more trouble with her disc ability. I also never mess with my gb unless of course it's a little off, which isn't often in my ground. As for the disc knob, well, I never thumb as I'm really trying to learn the good from bad sounds. I guess she just doesnt like no motion with too little disc setting. This is what has puzzled me since day one. I wonder what the disc function really does to the circuit when in no motion? That is the question many experts can't answer. They know it does something but what? Me, i think is right, it changes the sensitivity in a reverse order. Lower disc raises the sense and higher disc lowers the sense. Try it, cause I beleive it to be true also. You can actually see the loss in depth from say a dime on the ground as the knob is turned up. With that said, some machines of the same models may be a little hotter than another of the same model from the day it was new, and those with the hot machines (like me) are experiencing this overloading when the disc is too low in all metal, even causing the machine to stay in an overloaded state qhen switched back to disc. This is my theory and i'm sticking to it....hehe. I really wish with so many Tesoro guys here we would hear more from these outlaw users.
See, I never touch my threshold, ever. With thresh to high, ahe has a little more trouble with her disc ability. I also never mess with my gb unless of course it's a little off, which isn't often in my ground. As for the disc knob, well, I never thumb as I'm really trying to learn the good from bad sounds. I guess she just doesnt like no motion with too little disc setting. This is what has puzzled me since day one. I wonder what the disc function really does to the circuit when in no motion? That is the question many experts can't answer. They know it does something but what? Me, i think is right, it changes the sensitivity in a reverse order. Lower disc raises the sense and higher disc lowers the sense. Try it, cause I beleive it to be true also. You can actually see the loss in depth from say a dime on the ground as the knob is turned up. With that said, some machines of the same models may be a little hotter than another of the same model from the day it was new, and those with the hot machines (like me) are experiencing this overloading when the disc is too low in all metal, even causing the machine to stay in an overloaded state qhen switched back to disc. This is my theory and i'm sticking to it....hehe. I really wish with so many Tesoro guys here we would hear more from these outlaw users.
atomicscott
Active member
I'm sure I found a couple coins past 5" but it was the exception not the norm. I routinely find 7-8" coins with my Fisher F2. I sent my V back to Tesoro, and Rusty retuned coil and said it tested fine. Maybe after a year I just didn't learn it well enough, but it only took me a few hunts to get comfy and get good finds and dig much less trash with my XTdan b said:
That's the beauty of this hobby. There is such a variety of machines available that we all eventually find the one that works best for each of us. In your case the Xterra is the one, and the Vaquero wasn't your thing. I totally get that. I tried a series of highly rated machines, and I pretty much hated most of them. They just weren't for me. I've come back to Tesoro, and that works for me.
Maybe one day I'll try an Xterra just to see.
Dan
atomicscott
Active member
At least you only have to drive to Radio Shack (hopefully not twice) to return that one, not a trip to AZ! I hope you have better luck after this repair. Bummer.