KindManTall
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WE have made some important changes to the device so there is a delay ...but hopefully not too long.
Thank you!
Dilek
Thank you!
Dilek
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New multi frequency machine
- Thread starter wayne in north ga
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Read this post on another site, or maybe old news.
There is, but can’t post links to other sites. Supposedly called lightening. Supposedly a teaser ad also in Western and Eastern Treasures Sept issue. If anyone has it, snap a photo of its in there. I’m curious too. Here’s what a website called Detecting Quest out of UK has to say (copy and pasted. Also take it with a grain of salt until more is known for certain):
It has long been the case that if you mention simultaneous multi-frequency detectors, there is one name that immediately comes to mind. Minelab. And although the company has long been associated with this technology, the real game-changer came in the form of the Equinox and its patented Multi IQ detection system.
Kellyco Metal Detectors
Minelab has brought their Multi IQ magic to the budget end of the market in the form of the very successful Vanquish range but the Equinox is still the gold standard for simultaneous multi-frequency machines. Until now?
Turkey-based metal detector manufacturer, Nokta Makro has forged quite a reputation in the single frequency detector market, and with the release of their feature-packed Simplex+ they cemented that reputation by bringing us top-end features at a very budget-friendly price.
Never ones to rest on their laurels, Nokta Makro has been slowly beavering away on a new machine to take on the Minelab Equinox and possibly, knock it from its pedestal at the top of the simultaneous multi-frequency world.
At the moment there is limited information about this new machine other than its name and some of the expected features. What we do know is that the machine, which has been years in development, will be with us very soon.
What do we know?
The new machine will be called the Nokta Makro Lightning. Which, knowing how the company likes to play on words, probably refers to how fast the machine is and also how little it weighs in comparison to its competitors.
True Simultaneous Multi-Frequency Technology. Unlike the Garrett Ace Apex which uses a form of Minelab’s now patent-free FBS technology, we think that Nokta Makro will have developed their own multi-frequency detection tech or at the very least, added to FBS. The machine will also have several selectable individual frequencies to choose from.
Same Form Factor As The Simplex+. The Lightening will be housed in the same control box as that used for the Simplex+. And as such will be fully waterproof and submersible. There will also be a carbon fiber lower stem. This helps keep the weight to a minimum.
Replaceable battery pack. This is a clever move and one often requested by users. The Minelab Equinox does not have a removable battery. It needs to be sent back to a service center to have the battery replaced. The Nokta Makro Lightning will have the battery mounted under the arm cuff and will be replaceable by the user. You could take a spare battery along to a group dig or festival and not have to worry about charging.
Brand New Coil. The coil will be different to the one used on the Simplex+ although it is not yet clear if this will be in terms of physical design, internal electronics or both. We do know that Simplex+ coils will not be compatible with the Lightning.
Wireless Headphones. the Nokta Makro Lightning will have wireless audio but it will not be compatible with the existing green or blue series headphones. This may indicate a move to APTX Low Latency Bluetooth as used by the Equinox and Vanquish.
Unexpected Features. Dilek Gonulay, Director of Sales and Marketing at Nokta Makro stated; It will have some features that are going to be better than the competitors out there on top of its performance and depth and how it handles at the beach with the saltwater. It also has some nice features I think the customers are going to like. What these features are, we will have to wait and see but, Nokta Makro rarely disappoints.
Competitive Pricing. The Lightning will be priced higher than the Simplex+ which is of course expected, given that it is a simultaneous multi-frequency machine. Dilek says it’s going to be a high-end machine and is being made to compete with the current best treasure detectors out there. She also says spec to spec, we are going to be offering more for less price. We are not sure if Nokta Makro is going to pitch the price against the Equinox 600 or 800, perhaps somewhere in between. The Equinox 600 currently retails for 679 and the Equinox 800 is 899.
Release Date. It is expected that the new machine will be properly unveiled at Detectival over the weekend of Sept 11/12 2021. However, if the release of the Simplex+ is anything to go by, it could be some months before the Nokta Makro Lightning hits the stores.
Availability
It is not yet known when the new Nokta Makro Lightning will be available to buy or indeed what the price will be.
As far as we know, the company wants the new machine to be in stores before the end of the year so perhaps October or November may be on the cards.
Nokta Makro is always competitive on pricing and I think we can certainly expect the new machine to cost less than a Minelab Equinox 800. My guess is that it will be the same or less than the Equinox 600 so 679 or below. Time will tell!
Keep an eye on the Detectival weekend 11-12 September.
Also, check out the Nokta Makro website as there is sure to be news there very soon.
There is, but can’t post links to other sites. Supposedly called lightening. Supposedly a teaser ad also in Western and Eastern Treasures Sept issue. If anyone has it, snap a photo of its in there. I’m curious too. Here’s what a website called Detecting Quest out of UK has to say (copy and pasted. Also take it with a grain of salt until more is known for certain):
It has long been the case that if you mention simultaneous multi-frequency detectors, there is one name that immediately comes to mind. Minelab. And although the company has long been associated with this technology, the real game-changer came in the form of the Equinox and its patented Multi IQ detection system.
Kellyco Metal Detectors
Minelab has brought their Multi IQ magic to the budget end of the market in the form of the very successful Vanquish range but the Equinox is still the gold standard for simultaneous multi-frequency machines. Until now?
Turkey-based metal detector manufacturer, Nokta Makro has forged quite a reputation in the single frequency detector market, and with the release of their feature-packed Simplex+ they cemented that reputation by bringing us top-end features at a very budget-friendly price.
Never ones to rest on their laurels, Nokta Makro has been slowly beavering away on a new machine to take on the Minelab Equinox and possibly, knock it from its pedestal at the top of the simultaneous multi-frequency world.
At the moment there is limited information about this new machine other than its name and some of the expected features. What we do know is that the machine, which has been years in development, will be with us very soon.
What do we know?
The new machine will be called the Nokta Makro Lightning. Which, knowing how the company likes to play on words, probably refers to how fast the machine is and also how little it weighs in comparison to its competitors.
True Simultaneous Multi-Frequency Technology. Unlike the Garrett Ace Apex which uses a form of Minelab’s now patent-free FBS technology, we think that Nokta Makro will have developed their own multi-frequency detection tech or at the very least, added to FBS. The machine will also have several selectable individual frequencies to choose from.
Same Form Factor As The Simplex+. The Lightening will be housed in the same control box as that used for the Simplex+. And as such will be fully waterproof and submersible. There will also be a carbon fiber lower stem. This helps keep the weight to a minimum.
Replaceable battery pack. This is a clever move and one often requested by users. The Minelab Equinox does not have a removable battery. It needs to be sent back to a service center to have the battery replaced. The Nokta Makro Lightning will have the battery mounted under the arm cuff and will be replaceable by the user. You could take a spare battery along to a group dig or festival and not have to worry about charging.
Brand New Coil. The coil will be different to the one used on the Simplex+ although it is not yet clear if this will be in terms of physical design, internal electronics or both. We do know that Simplex+ coils will not be compatible with the Lightning.
Wireless Headphones. the Nokta Makro Lightning will have wireless audio but it will not be compatible with the existing green or blue series headphones. This may indicate a move to APTX Low Latency Bluetooth as used by the Equinox and Vanquish.
Unexpected Features. Dilek Gonulay, Director of Sales and Marketing at Nokta Makro stated; It will have some features that are going to be better than the competitors out there on top of its performance and depth and how it handles at the beach with the saltwater. It also has some nice features I think the customers are going to like. What these features are, we will have to wait and see but, Nokta Makro rarely disappoints.
Competitive Pricing. The Lightning will be priced higher than the Simplex+ which is of course expected, given that it is a simultaneous multi-frequency machine. Dilek says it’s going to be a high-end machine and is being made to compete with the current best treasure detectors out there. She also says spec to spec, we are going to be offering more for less price. We are not sure if Nokta Makro is going to pitch the price against the Equinox 600 or 800, perhaps somewhere in between. The Equinox 600 currently retails for 679 and the Equinox 800 is 899.
Release Date. It is expected that the new machine will be properly unveiled at Detectival over the weekend of Sept 11/12 2021. However, if the release of the Simplex+ is anything to go by, it could be some months before the Nokta Makro Lightning hits the stores.
Availability
It is not yet known when the new Nokta Makro Lightning will be available to buy or indeed what the price will be.
As far as we know, the company wants the new machine to be in stores before the end of the year so perhaps October or November may be on the cards.
Nokta Makro is always competitive on pricing and I think we can certainly expect the new machine to cost less than a Minelab Equinox 800. My guess is that it will be the same or less than the Equinox 600 so 679 or below. Time will tell!
Keep an eye on the Detectival weekend 11-12 September.
Also, check out the Nokta Makro website as there is sure to be news there very soon.
bigtim1973
Well-known member
relicmeister
Well-known member
Hope it’s not equinox deja vu in terms of preordering for example release on Nov 1 and not available till March of following year.
Nokta Detectors
Active member
Hello everybody!! I apologize for not checking in earlier but a lot is going on here at Nokta Makro as you can imagine. Now regarding the SMF, we decided to make some major changes to the device after the first prototypes were produced including some features that I had mentioned in my earlier videos/interviews. We believe that our valued customers will excuse us and understand that the changes are all for the good and that the delay is only due to our efforts for trying to make the device lighter and more user friendly for the customer.
In addition, I have no idea where the name Lightning is coming from but the name of the product is not Lightning and the name will be revealed at launch.
I will be doing a live video on our FB page soon to give an update to all customers around the world and answer some questions for those who will be watching.
In addition, I have no idea where the name Lightning is coming from but the name of the product is not Lightning and the name will be revealed at launch.
I will be doing a live video on our FB page soon to give an update to all customers around the world and answer some questions for those who will be watching.
'Thank You', Dilek, for the direct information to update us call on the progress. I'm especially looking forward to the new SMF and I'm also pleased to hear that it's NOT going to be called Lightning.
I was hunting with the Simplex w/5X9.5 DD this past weekend and hoping the new SMF is in a similar configuration and balance oh, and also has a smaller coil available for it. We got into a very iron littered section of this old site where smaller coils are a must-have. I had to go back and make a swamp for my Relic with 5 in Double-D which left me hoping that such a smaller coil will be available for the new product.
Again, thank you for the update.
Monte
I was hunting with the Simplex w/5X9.5 DD this past weekend and hoping the new SMF is in a similar configuration and balance oh, and also has a smaller coil available for it. We got into a very iron littered section of this old site where smaller coils are a must-have. I had to go back and make a swamp for my Relic with 5 in Double-D which left me hoping that such a smaller coil will be available for the new product.
Again, thank you for the update.
Monte
jayhop
Well-known member
Thank you for trying to get it right the first time.
Nothing would be worse than to be like that other detector from that other company and have the machine full of defective parts and leaking control boxes.
Thank you
Sven
Well-known member
Dilek was on live video this morning, clearing up the rumors and speculation.
Delay is retooling, programming. Major significant changes have been made.
Comes with standard large 11"
Optional 6" coil.
It is not a "Simplex" model!!!!
Carbon shafts
Bluetooth wireless headphones
Waterproof, submersible in a Simplex housing.
Will announce more in a number of weeks.
Facebook video
fb.watch
Delay is retooling, programming. Major significant changes have been made.
Comes with standard large 11"
Optional 6" coil.
It is not a "Simplex" model!!!!
Carbon shafts
Bluetooth wireless headphones
Waterproof, submersible in a Simplex housing.
Will announce more in a number of weeks.
Facebook video
SMALL UPDATE ON SMF... #noktamakro #live #smf | By Nokta Detectors | Facebook
SMALL UPDATE ON SMF... #noktamakro #live #smf
fb.watch
Just coils
Active member
I heard no mention of waterproof headphones. Will there only be bluetooth or will the new SMF machine have wired waterproof headphones? Wireless is useless if you do lake or ocean detecting. Unless Nokta has figured out a way to give equal depth that the wired waterproof headphones give. In-other-words will the detector work effectively submerged with bluetooth headsets.Dilek was on live video this morning, clearing up the rumors and speculation.
Delay is retooling, programming. Major significant changes have been made.
Comes with standard large 11"
Optional 6" coil.
It is not a "Simplex" model!!!!
Carbon shafts
Bluetooth wireless headphones
Waterproof, submersible in a Simplex housing.
Will announce more in a number of weeks.
Facebook video
SMALL UPDATE ON SMF... #noktamakro #live #smf | By Nokta Detectors | Facebook
SMALL UPDATE ON SMF... #noktamakro #live #smf
dfmike
Well-known member
Kudos for letting us know what is going on. How many detector companies do that here on findmall ? Some used to but it's getting rare. At least they effectively kill the rumors and set us straight with useful information. I was about to pull the plug on an Equinox but knowing that the new detector is coming might make me wait until next spring and continue using my CoRe in the meantime. I'll let some of you guys lucky enough to live in a place where there is no "real" winter try it out and let us know how it performs.
Gord (Tecumseh)
Active member
We will have to wait to hear more about water detecting but while we wait it is important to remember that Dilek said the new detector will have a vibrate mode indicating a target has been found. LOL
Picketwire
Well-known member
I have an Impact. This is a special detector. I paid less than $400 for the pro pack. The plastic on the faceplate is still on it. If you want to save major money, wait until the experts move on the the next great thing. I also have a Racer 2, same story except it $275 with just the small coil. Will this one be the one that is so good that everything will be gone if you wait?
Could just be for the deaf and blind detectorists.
Gord (Tecumseh)
Active member
and for people who don't have waterproof headphones because N/M has not produced them yet and wireless headphones don't work under water.
Just coils
Active member
Correct on both counts.
Any word yet??