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New Minelab

I feel a law suit coming on :bouncy:

minelab been using XP's detector to make a minelab um arh :lmfao:

bring on the fight good to see 2 heavy weights punch on :biggrin:

but all minelab have done so far is swing hay makers that have turned in to air swings :rofl:

lots of air swinging :buds:
 
I think it's funny we have experts that read the box or the ad. They are lining up to buy one and don't even know if it will work. If it's not in production it's not ready for the market. I've bought a lot of machines just released in 40 years of detecting and have found out the smart person waits for a while just to see if the new latest and the greatest works. Early buying has done nothing more for me then to take my money in most cases. A month ago I just bought my second Deus rather then wait for the NOX. I don't know about anyone else but I'm kind of sad to see it even being discussed in the Deus forum, but maybe it's just me
 
For a moment there I had to Slap myself in the face to
make sure that I was on the Deus Forum. Minelab, You
can have them , their LEAKY over-priced Ctx which many
think is the Greatest out there. Then the Go find series.
What I get out of Minelab these days is cheap junk and
expensive junk. Minelab's greatest feat here in the States
was the E-Trac and Explorer series. After that it's all DOWN HILL!!!
Now they have this Equinox and guys are lining up like Rats on Cheese...
I wish them LUCK!
I'LL be keeping on with my FAITHFUL DEUS 3.2
Can't be beat in the IRON...
silverseeker2
 
I see no reason not to own both a Deus and Equinox given the Equinox only costs $899. If the thing was $2,000 then forget it but at $899 I'll buy serial #001.
 
Minelab has lurched from disaster to disaster over the last few machines... I am sticking with my Deus!!

Micheal
 
What is the point of doing a depth test on a coin, mentioning the mineralization and iron content of the soil, digging the hole, putting the coin at the bottom.........

but not filling the hole back in?

Why not just place the coin on the surface and swing over it?

It looks very deceptive, to say the least.
 
Terry its not just you. I've had my CTX for about six years now and the Deus for 2 so I feel qualified to offer an opinion, though reluctantly. I recently got my CTX back from repairs. It was out for a few weeks but the tech told me I was lucky it was stilll under warranty. I was extremely annoyed however when I discovered that my specialty programs had all been deleted. But this week I took it out to a local park to do some practice in high trash using target trace which I really like. Big mistake. I immediately noticed that I was getting no depth and that I was having trouble locking on the good tones. I was only able to correct by continually doing a noise cancel. One of the contributors noted that the Deus sometines falls on its face, well sometimes so does the ML. None of them are perfect. It hit me that this park is very old and seeded with iron as well as modern trash which is why it struggled as opposed to the Deus where I've found some nice goodies lately Don't get me wrong. The MLs are great machines. They've let me make some great finds over the years but the Deus is simply simpler and more adaptable to different sites. If the Nox proves to be cutting edge, I may have to swallow my pride(and my $2500) and get one as my 2nd machine but NOT until I see what it really offers. O/W my go to 2nd machine for some of my buddies will be another Deus.HH
 
You bring up an interesting point about the 2nd machine. I really like the Deus "system" for lack of a better word.

I reluctantly tried a Deus lite as an alternative to another Minelab which due to the local dollar crept up to almost 2 grand with taxes. ($1,980 total)
As it turns out rather then being a compromised alternative for land, it also became my primary water machine, an unexpected bonus.
Sure the active Deus coils are expensive compared to a passive coil, but it's much cheaper then a quality water machine. (Excalibur $1,500 vs a 2nd Deus coil for around $500.)
Another consideration is the risk factor, it is highly unlikely that you will flood both the Deus coil and headphones in the water. By having a land and sea system, a spare coil or headphones can be easily substituted while the other is repaired. All your eggs aren't in one basket.
Lets also look at the fact that the Deus is more versatile in the water compared to current Minelab, just like on land.

Minelab was king of the coins, but the Deus is waaay more versatile on both targets and user configuration, land and sea. (Freshwater)

Now time will tell how well Equinox does, it would have been a great machine for me...4 or 5 years ago. However now that I have been introduced to the Deus "system" it would be hard to replace it.

Look at how the "new" XP coils work with the "old" Deus hardware. XP is updating all the time, you can just roll the new hardware (and software) through your system as you see fit. That is nicer then having to jump to a completely different platform when you want to upgrade a specific feature. This little detail is a big thing, someone had their thinking cap on.

Ironically I suppose credit could go to the Minelab Xterra series, because you could change your Freq with the coil, however it had no ability to update, Freq was lock to a specific coil, just a little ahead of it's time. Also I don't think the Xterra series was engineered seriously enough. What I mean is they had their FBS series as their "serious" machines and made the Xterra series as a more pedestrian machine. The problem with that logic is metal detecting does not have a pedestrian market. Rarely does that type of person buy a machine, if they do it ends up in a closet after a couple of outings. That is not enough to sustain a niche market lineup like that, especially when compared to the raving lunatics that buy those Garrets. Garret gets away with it because their beginner lineup includes the ATPro, it matters not to them which "Ace" you buy, they all cost the same to make.

Some have mentioned Minelab flops. I tried a GoFind 60 last night, I put it head to head with a Technetics Delta 4000. The retail price is about the same though the Delta always goes on sale. (In fact just checked it's $277 CAD this morning)
The Delta will absolutely smoke the GoFind in everything except for ID of nickle coins, which is a hollow victory in that regard too because it is a hard machine to "X". The Delta is deeper, faster and handles EMI much better. Not to mention the GoFInd frame had a lot of slop. I was hoping the GoFind would be a compact little backup for digging shallow round sounds, but it's not. For $350 it should have worked at least as good as the Xterra. Who cares about Bluetooth connectivity, the purchaser won't likely use one long enough to take advantage of such features. I certainly haven't heard any chatter about it.
So the Delta will stay as a backup/loaner for friends and family. At least if they use that I won't feel bad giving them a gimped up machine. In fact I know a guy locally who did amazing with a Delta, now I know why, it's decent enough. I kinda feel bad for him because I sold him a Etrac and I think he struggles with it, he is in that quagmire now. He did awesome with the Delta, it was easy to use, but now he's too captivated with the Etrac right now to put it down. I thought based on his Delta finds he would just light it up with the Etrac, but that's not quite the case. He's made a few decent finds with the Etrac, just in that awkward stage right now and won't read the manual. (He's silver hunting with 3 tones I think, eek!) IMO it's hard to look for silver when it sounds like a "12" on a Minelab lol. Oh well we have all been there.

All my blathering aside, this Equinox will likely be a home run for Minelab. I already feel like I would recommend it to someone who wants the best "conventional" machine for under a grand. Remember Deus Lite does not have heads up display, I wouldn't push it on newer person who wants a screen, I understand the allure of having that number there at first.
However, I would like to try one first, cause I can still taste that GoFind from last night, the Equinox could suck.
 
I attended the Detectorist 17 Rally and it was a outstanding event.

Minelab went overboard on this rally which was a charity fund raising event.

Minelab were also giving away lots of freebies like beads to the natives.

Personally I purchased a XP Deus High frequency coil having watched the tiny piece of gold test which is on Steves u-tube video.

There were more XP machines proportionally on the rally than any other.

Bringing in the sample Exuinox by parachute was a novel idea.

Alain Loubet and the XP stand was possibly the busiest and up to 6 experts at a time helping folks out.

All the big UK XP dealers were on site and special offers were available.

Only time will tell us what future the New Minelab has for the detecting world.

The XP Deus is still the only true completely Wireless detector.

The new Equinox controller look very much like the Quest one from the USA, which seemed to have large crowds around their tented area.

In-fact I heard from a good source that the dealership is exceptionally busy trying to cope with the large demand.

Only time will tell with our hobby which I have been interested in since the late 1970`s and had my first Minelab in the 1980`s.

Happy Hunting,

Jerry.

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Jerry I ran this small gold test on my Deus this morning.

dg1.jpg


dg2.jpg
 
Hi Charles thanks for posting.

Those gold nuggets are really tiny.

What settings were you using.

Jerry.
 
JBM1 said:
Hi Charles thanks for posting.

Those gold nuggets are really tiny.

What settings were you using.

Jerry.

That 14k ferrule with the stone in it, solid hit at 3 inches with the Deus, it didn't make a peep on my Explorer even rubbing it on the coil. That tells me the Deus with this coil will hit on diamond stud earrings.

Notch 00-00
Disc 0.0
Full Tones
Sens 90
TX Power 2
Freqency 54kHz
Iron Volume 0
Reactivity 2
Silencer 2
Audio Response 4
Audio Overload 1
ID Normalization N/A for HF coils
 
I find it funny that the longest thread in a while on the XP forum is about a non XP detector. It seems like the XP diehards feel threatened by a new machine. Personally I hope the Equanox blows the XP out of the water. That just means all the other manufacturers will have to up their game. A win win for all of us. I'm not loyal to any one company I just want to use the best equipment for the conditions I'm hunting. I have had the CTX since it came out and IMHO it is close to the best coin machine in modern trash on the market. I would say only the Etrac slightly beats it, but the CTX has some more advantages that make it my choice for coins. I hope the Equanox is just as good or better than the CTX and Etrac and if that is the case the CTX will be gone. I've had the Deus for about a year and it is now my go to machine for field and relic hunting. IMHO it can't be beat in iron. Also, the light weight gives this seasoned guy the ability to swing it all day. I have a trip planned to the U.K. In the spring and the XP will be my machine of choice.
 
like i said in the equinox forum , if it can tell me gold from aluminium i will buy one otherwise its just like all the other detectors i have old tech.. deus included ..so for me its just repackaged what i already have why spend mo money..

sucker born every minute as the saying goes..

i been suckered a few times but until new tech arrives as i have stated its all old tech..
 
Fire Fighter 43 said:
I find it funny that the longest thread in a while on the XP forum is about a non XP detector. It seems like the XP diehards feel threatened by a new machine. Personally I hope the Equanox blows the XP out of the water. That just means all the other manufacturers will have to up their game. A win win for all of us. I'm not loyal to any one company I just want to use the best equipment for the conditions I'm hunting. I have had the CTX since it came out and IMHO it is close to the best coin machine in modern trash on the market. I would say only the Etrac slightly beats it, but the CTX has some more advantages that make it my choice for coins. I hope the Equanox is just as good or better than the CTX and Etrac and if that is the case the CTX will be gone. I've had the Deus for about a year and it is now my go to machine for field and relic hunting. IMHO it can't be beat in iron. Also, the light weight gives this seasoned guy the ability to swing it all day. I have a trip planned to the U.K. In the spring and the XP will be my machine of choice.
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I wish I had written this. Be nice detecting in the UK as well:)
 
Man, all the excitement over this New Minelab everywhere. As a Detectorist those of you that
BUY one, I hope it's the magic your looking for. Soon we'll all know more. Here's just my
thoughts on this new Minelab detector. I can't see them creating a machine that will
out do the E-Trac or the Ctx 3030. No way can I conceive the idea of the Equinox surpassing
the abilities of either of these 2 machines. If so what will they do with all the E-Trac's and
3030's left on the shelf. The 3030's are already a hard sell for the money and many
wonder if they'll get a GOOD ONE! Smoke the DEUS,I hope not!!! So again, you guys
that get one I wish you Luck... Me, I'll be keep'in on with the 3.2 version DEUS.
Minelab's seen their last $ from me. GOOD HUNTING EVERYONE...
silverseeker2
 
Guess someone got tired of all the action in the Deus forum being in a thread about Minelab so it got moved over here.
That's good , now maybe the Fisher , Garrett , White's , Turks and Tesoros people can be all defensive about their machines as well.
As the world turns:thumbup:
 
Gotta love the effect that the European detector manufacturers have had on the rest of the industry. Suddenly, things aren't quite so "same-old, same-old" anymore.
 
I remember once, many moons ago, there was a brand new metal detector coming out called the AT Pro. Months before the detector was even released, people were lining up to buy and early orders were brisk. The metal detecting forums lit up like fireworks on the 4th of July. People were debating, arguing, even screaming at one another over the abilities of this detector, and mind you, the machine had not even been released yet. It was almost comic the levels of hysteria some people were willing to go to over a detector they had not used a single time.

I am starting to get the same feeling about the Equinox. Some have started grumbling. Others are shoving. Weapons are being chosen. Alliances made. I can already hear the sound of trenches being dug.
 
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