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Latest From Coiltek CTX 3030 10 X 5 DD Coil

Randy, that definitely sounds thorough, hopefully you will be testing this coil soon?
 
RANDY your diplomacy exceeds mine by leaps and bounds.

Really it makes no difference what location you are in or soil conditions. If your 6" will only get 5 inches in your soil so be it. Now what will the 5 x !0 coiltec get? Simple question requiring a simple answer. The reply given only leads me to believe that the 5 x 10 will not reach as deep as the 6" coil.

Now having sais that I will step on it real big right here and now.
Until I see other than gut feeling test and testing done by guys not associated with Minelab or Coltec i will not spend the funds that are required to buy the coil. I also realize that no one said i had to buy the coil.

FO
 
There are plenty of CTX users out there. There will be plenty of reports on this coil. I like the comparison of detectors and coils on real targets. I absolutely can't stand watching guys dig holes for tests and burying targets. I won't watch them.
 
goodmore said:
There are plenty of CTX users out there. There will be plenty of reports on this coil. I like the comparison of detectors and coils on real targets. I absolutely can't stand watching guys dig holes for tests and burying targets. I won't watch them.
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I agree with you and understand comparing coils on real targets.

I also think that if the coil will not do as well or better than the 6" coil on a buried target it wont do it in the field either.

My point is that if you take the two coils in a side by side controlled test you will get a better ideal on the depth potential of the two coils.

Pick any number you want. Ill just use 7". If the 6 in. coil will hit the target with authority and the 5 x 10 will not I am going to spend my $260.00 on the 6" coil instead of $350.00 on a coil that will not.
Granted it 5 x 10 will cover more ground and if that is your goal you just have to decide on how much depth you are willing to give up for the extra coverage. Coverage that you already have with the stock coil.

As I stated above I would like to have the coil if it will give me the same depth as the 6". Gain a little more coverage , good depth and should separate better than the stock coil.

I will be waiting for Digger and others to supply more info.before I take the plunge.

Best to all
FO
 
Look guys I know that we all want different tests etc etc but the reality is I field test others like Randy like to test differently others like to air test and there will always be arguments as to what is best. Why I don't get in to all that is simple you cant please everyone and I don't know any of you and you don't know me. If you actually knew me as a parson you would understand where I am coming from I don't write reviews or do videos for any reason other than to shed a practical light on a product that I may have been asked to test. I get no kick backs or financial gain from doing what I do and the time that is actually put into testing coils, detectors etc is actually extremely time consuming and sometimes takes the real fun out of the hobby. Don't get me wrong it is a labour of love but is always met with much scrutinising from the readers and watchers.

If I have offended anyone it was unintentional my video was simply to show the coil in action amongst trash. In time there will be more than enough tests done for you all to make up your own minds by people that love doing them but I am simply not that person. Please take the video for what it is, just a glimpse of what it can do amongst trash if it helps you along the way to making a decision either way then good.

As for doing the video for the owners of Coiltek as a promotional thing the truth is they actually didn't know that I had released the video until today. I make videos all the time and just simply thought that you may want to see the coil working amongst trash.

If you don't want me to post these on this forum just let me know and I will not - no skin off my nose thanks Mark.
 
I appreciate any information. I come here to the forums for one reason. To learn. You are correct about detector tests. Someone always chimes in that you didn't do something correctly. I like to see how the detector or coil being tested hits on real targets. You did that. And I appreciate it. Others will take the testing further.

We are at a new age. Before all we had was detecting magazines for information. And we all know there was NO negative reviews. And we spent good money on bad products. Well we now have the forums. I appreciate any tests or showings of new equipment. All I ask for is honesty. If you slam something I want to know why. If you love something I want to know why.

And my feedback will be honest. My feedback to you is I will wait until some more field testing is done. Until then I will live with the six inch coil. Why? Because these coils are very costly. I do see the benefit of ground coverage, but Minelab did a great job with the stock coil.
 
I agree a side by side test of the two coils will give a great comparison, but who in reality goes detecting with two CTX's with identical setup to do such a comparison.

To do the test by swapping coils each target will only really work on a test bed.
 
Hopefully soon, it will be in the hands of many more hunters who will be able to test it in lots if different conditions. If it can punch out a good target in trash that the 6" can't see, I'm in. Till then, I'm out, cause the price of these coils is getting crazy. You can buy a decent, used, back up detector for the price.
 
I like the way you look at the tests you do as only the actual target you will be hunting is where the proof is. Some like air test, some like a test garden and compare one to another, but I feel the real test are those on actual hunts on actual finds. If you see one coil seems to get deeper it can be a fluke, but if you see several in a well worked area you have used a different coil on the same detector you know it has to be working better.
I have got into several disagreements on the Sovereign forum when I say the only real test is those targets that are actually in the ground. Some would be doing air test and test gardens, but that is different in my opinion as I too have seen.
I found one of my nicest gold rings and after it was dug I went over it with the coil and it now read lower that it did in the ground, seen this several times. When I had my Shadow X5 I tried air test and buried a dime at 5 inches and never got a peep out of the X5, but yet I was digging dimes in actual hunts of actual targets at 10 and more inches.


Rick
 
An air test is probably a waste of time, but I feel older, "mature" test gardens have some value. An actual hunt is obvious the real test, but like Randy stated, that involves taking several coils to a site, marking the targets that are detected with a certain coil, and then going over the entire gridded area with another coil (or coils). And depending on the soil/sand, the results can and will vary. Marksman7 was kind enough to post his video, and soon others will as well. Now, hopefully Coiltek sticks to the latest scheduled delivery date of Sept 1st. Then the fun really begins. And if the coil is a winner, I'll be drooling waiting for the next size to be manufactured.
 
I'm hoping for a 24 incher!
 
I have been detecting 5 years, four of which is with the E-Trac and now for about 8 months the CTX. I believe more targets are masked by iron or other trash rather than hidden by great depth. In my area most targets are between 4 to 8 inch deep. On the ET I haved used the Sunray 5", Sunray 8", Sunray 12" plus the stock and I have found coins with all these coils at the 8" depth. To me separation is more critical. I have used the 17" on the CTX and was pleasantly surprised with it's separation capabilities. I do a lot of field hunting so encounter a lot of iron so iam hoping the new coil will give adequate coverage but be able to squeeze by some more of the iron.
 
$369 for an aftermarket coil that hasn't really distinguished itself from the stock coil really doesn't make too much sense to me. If I finds small gold, chains or other items that the stock coil has difficulty locating than maybe. I'll wait for the reviews.

I do applaud Coiltek for doing this, I often mentioned in past posts that the CTX needs some third party goodies.
 
Hi Mark,

Thanks for going through the effort and showing.:beers:

I think the only way I'm ever going to be convinced on how well this coil works is to get one.

David Di
 
GKMan said:
I'm hoping for a 24 incher!
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Yikes, Gary. I'm sure that would be a nice coil for those fields you hunt but I don't know what would be more of a shock, the weight of it or the potential price. Old dudes like me couldn't swing that thing for long. I'm even on the fence about adding the 17" coil.
 
Ha, yeah I would have to pay for it in installments....
 
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