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Latest From Coiltek CTX 3030 10 X 5 DD Coil
- Thread starter Marksman7
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Nice video, but I'll wait for some of the regulars on this site to provide reviews. For what it's gonna cost, it'll have to do something the other coils can't. We'll soon see. Just the fact that an aftermarket coil exists is exciting, but I'll wait for the 8" x 6" (wishful thinking).
No haven't run the 6" there but Im sure it would work well. My own opinion is that they both have equal benefits the 6" is best in super trashy ground where there are lots of nails, rusty iron etc and the targets are not deep (approx. 5") but the 10 x 5 works better in areas where you can cover a bit more ground due to slightly less trash like in the video.
I like both coils equally in the right areas.
You get better penetration with the 10 x 5 and more depth.
I like both coils equally in the right areas.
You get better penetration with the 10 x 5 and more depth.
foreign object
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Marksman7 said:
Of course your conditions are different than mine but I can hit a dime at 8in with my 6in coil. Now if I knew that the 10 x 5 would do the same I would look at getting one for better coverage.
Have you done a side by side between the two coils in a test garden so that we might get an ideal as to the claimed more depth?
By the way thanks for the video.
FO
No I haven't and I don't waste my time with side by side tests as I have been detecting long enough to know when I am getting better depth. It may sound a bit arrogant but I am not trying to be I just simply would rather go out and test the coil in real conditions I leave all the backyard tests to others while I simply go out finding coins etc. Please don't take this as me being a smart ass it is just who I am. all the best.
I too have hit coins at 7 - 8" with the 6" coil in ideal conditions all the best Mark.
I too have hit coins at 7 - 8" with the 6" coil in ideal conditions all the best Mark.
nolanation
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ML said:
What did you not understand about that response ML?
foreign object
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Marksman7 said:
Arrogant is not really the word I was thinking.
Anyway thanks. Your reply just saved me a bunch of money.
FO
nolanation said:
I guess the "I don't waste my time with side by side tests as I have been detecting long enough to know when I am getting better depth" quote took me back a bit. I've been detecting for over 40 years and know for a fact that comparing different coils at the same site (or test sites) is a very good indicator as to the effectiveness of a particular coil. If he had detected that site with the new Coiltek after utilizing the other size CTX coils there we would know if it is capable of pulling out targets the others couldn't. Probably the first thing I'd do if I purchased one is try it in my test garden, and I'm sure lots of folks would do the same thing. If it doesn't/can't do something the other coils can't why waste the $350.00 plus that I'm guessing it will cost?
Marksman7 said:
Although I don't consider Mark's comments as being arrogant, we apparently do have a difference of opinion when it comes to making side by side comparisons between coils. That difference could be attributed to our respective soil conditions...... or maybe the variety of places we hunt? Regardless, I make my comparisons in real conditions as well.....parks, yards, beaches, fields, homesteads, previously hunted places and new places as well. And when I make those "head to head" comparisons, I like to use the "old familiar" gear first, marking each target with a colored golf tee (whether the target is good or bad), and taking notes of the response. (tone consistency, pitch, TID etc).
After covering that gridded off area with the initial setup, and NOT digging any of the targets, I rehunt it, sweeping the same direction with the new coil. To reduce any discrepancy in electrical characteristics, I implement as many of the same settings used with the previous coil, as permitted. I will mark each new target with a golf tee of a different color, continuing to take notes of the tone, pitch etc. I will also recheck each of the targets that were found with the first coil, making notes of any differences in the response (or lack of response) between the two coils. And, I will mark each "new target" found with the second coil (and not the first), with yet a different colored tee. That way I can go back and recheck those targets missed with the first coil when I put it back on and go over the area again. If I detect it on the second pass with the same coil, I try to determine whether the target was missed initially because of depth, adjacent targets or simply "user error".
After sweeping both coils that one direction and evaluating why I may or may not have hit a target with one coil and not the other, I will perform the entire sequence again, sweeping the coil perpendicular to the direction used during the first series of tests. Again, I mark all targets detected with each coil. And I take special note of any targets missed on the "first pass" with both coils. After marking all the targets and feeling confident I have done a decent job of covering the area, I will adjust settings using the new coil, trying to tweak it to a higher level of performance. I then hunt the area one more time. After going over it for the fifth time, I recover the targets and finalize my analysis. Sometimes the new coil performs better than expected....sometimes it doesn't.
For those of you who haven't done this type of comparative analysis, it may be difficult to imagine how long it takes. But I believe that taking the time to do it "head to head" is the best way to evaluate a "new coil" for an existing detector. And as some of you may have read, my analysis aren't simply based on depth. In many of the places I like to hunt, I am convinced there are more coins still hiding due to adjacent targets, opposed to extreme depth. Just like tools in a tool box...there is the right tool for the job. When I do a comparison between coils, I'm just trying to figure out which one works best for me, at the particular site I am going to hunt. And frankly, I don't believe I can answer that to my own satisfaction until I put them head to head in the field. JMHO HH Randy