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ID meter and or beep and dig

I think I can answer that, the reason we think there is still a lot of silver and gold is because we hit 10 or more pull tabs with every swing and we have found a good amount of silver in this location in the past. I guess the thought is with all the good stuff we have pulled out of that area, that those pull tabs got to be hiding a lot more good stuff. We have been looking for new hunting ground but not a lot to pick from around here.

Now there is another area of the park we call the flat land and everybody that has a detector hunts this area and it is getting hard to a find pull tab. This area is pretty clean so we know all we will find there is new drops. I was hunting these flat lands back about 5 years ago and on any given day I could fill my pouch up with pull tabs about 3 times and I was getting some older coins to keep me interested. Seems that after the 3 of us brothers started taking the tabs everybody started doing the same thing and now it is clean.

I am pretty sure if the hill side where we think the silver is was as clean as the flat land we would move on.

The three of us brothers are talking right now so we can see the glitter of silver, but once we get to hunting aging I don't think we will be spending the whole summer on that hill side if it doesn't start producing some good finds. That was the starting reason for this thread to see if anybody had any luck going back to an area like this with a beep and dig and done any good. Now we have branch off a little but that is okay it is all go stuff.

Ron in WV
 
wouldn't matter if you use a beep and dig or a metered machine, just lower the disc. and dig it all. I have dug pull tabs and then found silver and wheats but not a lot. when you hunt that hill remember that the targets at the top will be shallower and the bottom a lot deeper.
 
chuck said:
wouldn't matter if you use a beep and dig or a metered machine, just lower the disc. and dig it all. I have dug pull tabs and then found silver and wheats but not a lot. when you hunt that hill remember that the targets at the top will be shallower and the bottom a lot deeper.

Chuck,
That was a good reminder to pass on, I never really thought about that before but it is true. When I read your reminder I had a bit of flash back and I had found several silver coins in the upper quarter of that hill side that were in the 3 to 4" range and in the lower part and a small flat shelf the silver is more like 6"+.

Thanks for that little nugget.

Ron in WV
 
I learned that when they cut a hill down at an old school. I was digging shallow silver at the top and deep clad at the bottom. I noticed we have something else in common besides detecting. I was in Vietnam 68-69, Chu Lai, Americal Division.
 
chuck said:
I learned that when they cut a hill down at an old school. I was digging shallow silver at the top and deep clad at the bottom. I noticed we have something else in common besides detecting. I was in Vietnam 68-69, Chu Lai, Americal Division.
That is interesting. Never thought of that.
 
I was reading in another thread where a guy was having pretty good success in worked out areas buy just setting his sensitivity down to 30. Anybody have any ideas why this would help find coins that others have missed by running there machines with higher sensitivity settings?

Would like to run in to the park and give this a try, but it is 19 degrees.

Ron in WV
 
I believe it may be the diluted return signal Wv62.Like driving in fog. Less light ( Less signal return) allows one to hear, and isolate some of the masked targets...

It cuts down on the peripheral signal return on the coil. Tightening up the send receive area. The coil doesn't see as much in the ground so it doesn't muddy up the return signal..

I have always believed no matter what it is called on a brand detector that the output is almost infinite, and the return antenna strength is what is called sensitivity.
Radio waves keep going in a sense but the return antenna is limited.. Less sense means less return ..translates to cleaner signals sometimes.
 
WV62 said:
I was reading in another thread where a guy was having pretty good success in worked out areas buy just setting his sensitivity down to 30. Anybody have any ideas why this would help find coins that others have missed by running there machines with higher sensitivity settings?

Would like to run in to the park and give this a try, but it is 19 degrees.

Ron in WV

I have found this to be true as well. It seems to give your Detector a much clearer signal and they seem to ignore a lot of trash. It may hurt your depth some but it sure seems to help with target ID.
 
WV62 said:
I was reading in another thread where a guy was having pretty good success in worked out areas buy just setting his sensitivity down to 30. Anybody have any ideas why this would help find coins that others have missed by running there machines with higher sensitivity settings?

Would like to run in to the park and give this a try, but it is 19 degrees.

Ron in WV
I believe that's why I have so much success with the Ace 250 and sniper coil. It's found some targets and ID'd them correctly where other more powerful detectors have been.
 
Well I couldn't stand it, I had to try this low sensitivity setting deal.

I headed into the park where we hunted this past Saturday and I didn't do so good but my brother SL52 found a silver dime and 2 or 3 wheat pennies. Saturday I was running my F75 at 90 sensitivity and today I went back to the same spot with the F75 sensitivity set to 30.

I got 2 wheat pennies, one memorial and a silver dime within a few feet of where my brother found his silver dime Saturday. This is a wooded area so all the coins were only about 3 to 4 inches deep.

I didn't get a coin count from my brother for Saturday, but I know it was pretty low maybe 4 or 5 coins, so today's hunt was pretty much the same coin count.

So I say there is a little something to this low sensitivity deal.

Ron in WV
 
WV62 said:
Well I couldn't stand it, I had to try this low sensitivity setting deal.

I headed into the park where we hunted this past Saturday and I didn't do so good but my brother SL52 found a silver dime and 2 or 3 wheat pennies. Saturday I was running my F75 at 90 sensitivity and today I went back to the same spot with the F75 sensitivity set to 30.

I got 2 wheat pennies, one memorial and a silver dime within a few feet of where my brother found his silver dime Saturday. This is a wooded area so all the coins were only about 3 to 4 inches deep.

I didn't get a coin count from my brother for Saturday, but I know it was pretty low maybe 4 or 5 coins, so today's hunt was pretty much the same coin count.

So I say there is a little something to this low sensitivity deal.

Ron in WV
Here's the way I learned about it. My Ace was able to operate in one little section of a tot lot because there was HUGE metallic signals spread out over a large area and with the sensitivity at 2 bars the sniper coil could pick up signals between the surface and the source of these signals. Other detectors were totally useless here. This got me to thinking-- what if either ground minerals or trash were overriding good signals because the sensitivity was so high the detector was trying to deal with both mineralization AND targets. I sometimes imagine there is a floor beneath the surface where the signals hit as a barrier because of this. Ideally, they normally hit areas without these obstacles, but the only way to know is doing what you did.
 
After today I am a believer.

This little trick could breath a little life back into some of worked out hunting areas.

Last year my silver total was 3 dimes, at 11 days into the year I already have 2 silver dimes.

Ron in WV
 
Attackcat1, welcome to the forum.

I still got those beep and dig machines in the back of my mind.

I went back to our worked out silver area today and found one wheat penny using the sensitivity 30 setting. I moved out of the silver zone and found 2 more wheat pennies using the same settings.
Not done with the low sensitivity settings yet, but it does make me wonder.

Ron in WV
 
This thought just came to me from experiences with other detectors inspired by some of Monte's posts. Sensitivity and sweep speeds are proportional. The higher the sensitivity the slower the sweep speed. The detector then has the TIME to make a correct response. We oft forget that today's detectors operate on delayed signals in order to separate ground signals from metallic signals. I even went to the trouble to bury a deep target and note the slowest sweep I could manage and STILL detect the target at highest sensitivity. I now knew the best sweep speed for Max depth WHILE using the most sensitivity in probable areas. Still, the lower sensitivity gets the coins between.
 
I have been known over drive my sweep speed when using one of the little coils, which is what I had on yesterday. The location I was at yesterday is wooded with some brush so I don't get to use a normal shoulder to shoulder sweep. It is more like short stokes and even some wiggle room only and I cover an area several times before moving a short step to the next. So my sweep speed is somewhat all over the place. The coins in this wooded area don't seem to be all that deep, 3 to 4 inches seems to be about the norm, so going deep doesn't seem to be needed.

There are a lot of variables that can make or brake this game.

Ron in WV
 
I often reduce my Sensitivity to Auto +1 or 2 then hunt at a brisk pace. I thoroughly investigate every little Beep. I think this finds more good stuff than super high sensitivity moving along at a snails pace.
 
I have detectors with visual ID and tone ID.If hunting in a park I like the ID. So much trash. If I hunt in a place where I dig everything, I pay not attention to what the meter or ID says. Works for me.....Jack
 
I know somebody who beats me hands down using ID or Beep and dig, he knows how to use his detectors very well then again he has been detecting over 30 years :detecting:
 
My 2 younger brothers and I have been detecting since about 1975, that would be about 40 years, so I think we are okay on the experience end.

We have been planning for at least one or two hunt days in the park we have been working for years. Right now cold weather has set in for a few weeks. I would say if something doesn't turn up we will be looking for new ground or just give up on silver and go for fresh dropped clad and jewelry.

Main thing is to keep hunting and enjoy it.

This has been a good thread, some good tips and tricks to try.

Thanks

Ron in WV
 
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