I see that the MX Sport has been released to dealers

[Foiled]

Lots of whining and going back and forth about this issue and that issue. Ive contacted whites and sent my unit back twice, once for firmware and I noticed some screen cracking. Most of us have more than one unit. If you have an issue contact them and send your machine in. They will take care of it.

I'm thinking I don't want to do that anymore, especially after driving 80-90 miles each way to use it only to find out it doesn't work. Sorta planned a camping trip around it because it was "waterproof". I didn't want to keep sending it back and be told it was "fixed" when it wasn't and still isn't. Shame on me for not wanting it.

 

[liondogs]

The O-ring issue has been solved and fixed by Whites. They just released a update at MX Sport update The issue was with the O-ring itself not with any assembly issues. Apparently the O-ring used was too robust for the plastic screen. Whites has restarted production of the MX Sport.

 

[doc holiday232]

PssssssT---what about the software issues??

 

[Frank in NH]

What should I be looking for on mine for software issues? Seems to be working alright?

 

[Sneakyweasel]

What should I be looking for on mine for software issues? Seems to be working alright?

Audio modulation that doesn't really work until the target is rather faint (and then it 'kinda' works.. I'm talking about disc. mode here) and an exceedingly weak pinpoint function. A signal will bang out loud 'n clear and the pinpoint mode will often be barely a whisper. There might be other issues, but those are the 2 main ones I've experienced (and read about on various forums) with the 'updated' firmware. Others have have questioned White's representative(s) but, so far, no answer has been forthcoming.

 

[iqwozpoom]

The Detech 7 coil is on Whites nice new webpage. Couldn't wait so I ordered directly from them. My mxs will probably be sent back for a quick checkup in the future. Got to make sure the o ring is up to spec before the warranty runs out. Other than that one firmware update for me. I miss the pro audio of the at pro, but am happy with the mxs. Hope I don't go over the line here, I feel like this is a gem of a machine that whites will continue to polish not the proverbial "other thing" not worth the effort. Two things I'd like are, better modulation and manual ground balance. Even though on this machine I don't see myself manually grounding, it would be nice. Happy hunting!

 

[Woodstock]

Yea Doc ... you made a good point to the sneakyweasel about the MX Sport ... and well sneakyweasel ... with all those more than decent finds it seems your auto-modulation must be working and weak signals can be and have always been exactly what they ... hard to find and pin-point ... gee whiz ... aren't they always ? And are you under the water with their water-proof headphones ? The headphones may be the issue and not the software inside the MX Sport ... just sayin' Woodstock

Sneakyweasel one would ASSume that the experienced owner of a machine would Know if said machine was performing to the Owners Standards, however, in YOUR case it seems that others,who have NEVER seen,heard,or used YOUR machine knows better.But now you know so all is well.
Excellent finds by the way.

 

[Sneakyweasel]

Yea Doc ... you made a good point to the sneakyweasel about the MX Sport ... and well sneakyweasel ... with all those more than decent finds it seems your auto-modulation must be working and weak signals can be and have always been exactly what they ... hard to find and pin-point ... gee whiz ... aren't they always ? And are you under the water with their water-proof headphones ? The headphones may be the issue and not the software inside the MX Sport ... just sayin' Woodstock

I got all those good finds because I worked d*mned hard for them and despite the problems with the MXS software. I also have an MXT pro with which I can compare audio modulation. The modulation on the MXS makes a targets' volume at 5" sound just as loud as at 1". Depending on the sensitivity, that 5" might be even deeper, say 7". When the target gets a bit deeper there's a sudden and pronounced drop in the volume, not a nice and smooth tapering down. With the pinpoint that aforementioned 5" target (which sounds loudly in disc. mode) might have little or no signal to pinpoint with. That's not, AFAIK, how it's supposed to work and, indeed, it isn't how it works on my MXT and on other detectors I've used over the years.

Regarding the headphones, the audio modulation sounds essentially the same whether I use the stock White's (comes with the MXS), my R.A.T. headphones, or my Killer B's. Funny how these same headphones don't exhibit any odd behavior with any of my other detectors. Steve Herschbach has commented on this (audio modulation/pinpointing) in his forum, as have others, so it IS an issue that others have experienced.. or maybe they've got lousy headphones.

 

[Woodstock]

OK sneakyweasel here's my point again , it's great hearing that "you worked damn hard for them and that's why you found them even with those software issues . And I guess your the first person here that has the ability to use a faulty detector and getting outstanding results . Seriously it sounds like your MXS finds are better than others that have a perfect MXS ( and their are quite a few out there ) so maybe you should be careful what you wish for cause a software upgrade might just confuse you when you find less than you expect you will with it . It makes me wonder what you'll say then if that happens . I guess if it does you'll post it here ... Now regarding the headphones ... I find it hard to believe that Whites MXS headphones and Ratt's and Killer B's all sound basically the same . For that to actually happen they would all have the same drivers and same frequency res ponce / range and wires and the ear cups would also have to be similar as well and I doubt that is the case . Some detectors I owned would get unstable and I learned to keep them on and remove the battery's, wait about 30-40 seconds and replace the battery's and turn the detector back on with no more issues ... sort of rebooting the computer . e'nuff said..happy trails , Woodstock

Yea Doc ... you made a good point to the sneakyweasel about the MX Sport ... and well sneakyweasel ... with all those more than decent finds it seems your auto-modulation must be working and weak signals can be and have always been exactly what they ... hard to find and pin-point ... gee whiz ... aren't they always ? And are you under the water with their water-proof headphones ? The headphones may be the issue and not the software inside the MX Sport ... just sayin' Woodstock

I got all those good finds because I worked d*mned hard for them and despite the problems with the MXS software. I also have an MXT pro with which I can compare audio modulation. The modulation on the MXS makes a targets' volume at 5" sound just as loud as at 1". Depending on the sensitivity, that 5" might be even deeper, say 7". When the target gets a bit deeper there's a sudden and pronounced drop in the volume, not a nice and smooth tapering down. With the pinpoint that aforementioned 5" target (which sounds loudly in disc. mode) might have little or no signal to pinpoint with. That's not, AFAIK, how it's supposed to work and, indeed, it isn't how it works on my MXT and on other detectors I've used over the years.

Regarding the headphones, the audio modulation sounds essentially the same whether I use the stock White's (comes with the MXS), my R.A.T. headphones, or my Killer B's. Funny how these same headphones don't exhibit any odd behavior with any of my other detectors. Steve Herschbach has commented on this (audio modulation/pinpointing) in his forum, as have others, so it IS an issue that others have experienced.. or maybe they've got lousy headphones.

 

[Sneakyweasel]

OK sneakyweasel here's my point again , it's great hearing that "you worked damn hard for them and that's why you found them even with those software issues . And I guess your the first person here that has the ability to use a faulty detector and getting outstanding results . Seriously it sounds like your MXS finds are better than others that have a perfect MXS ( and their are quite a few out there ) so maybe you should be careful what you wish for cause a software upgrade might just confuse you when you find less than you expect you will with it . It makes me wonder what you'll say then if that happens . I guess if it does you'll post it here ... Now regarding the headphones ... I find it hard to believe that Whites MXS headphones and Ratt's and Killer B's all sound basically the same . For that to actually happen they would all have the same drivers and same frequency res ponce / range and wires and the ear cups would also have to be similar as well and I doubt that is the case . Some detectors I owned would get unstable and I learned to keep them on and remove the battery's, wait about 30-40 seconds and replace the battery's and turn the detector back on with no more issues ... sort of rebooting the computer . e'nuff said..happy trails , Woodstock

Regarding my headphones, they ALL indicate a lack of audio modulation with the MXS and, in that respect are 'the same'. I'd also like to know who's been posting 5hat they have a 'perfect' MXS sans the audio modulation/pinpoint issues, since that would indicate a new revision of the software. I expect that, if a new software revision were to be released, and it too has problems, that I or anyone else that posted here pointing them out could look forward to your pooh-poohing and rather thinly veiled insults.

As for "And I guess your the first person here that has the ability to use a faulty detector and getting outstanding results.", you're wrong insofar as the MXS I have is not nonoperational. It's like buying a new car with cruise control and finding out that the cruise control doesn't work. The vehicle could still be easily driven, but I tend to think that most people would wish to get it fixed and, indeed, would be rather upset if the manufacturer didn't do so while it's under warranty.

 

[Woodstock]

Gotcha Sneaky ... and we've done more than most talking over the issues with the MXS and I actually expected more unhappy people to weigh in on the problems they've experenced and not many have made their voice heard , But a warrenty and wanting what was promised by Whites . You've more than proved by my interigation that nothing you've said is out of no knoledge so let's close this chapter and please post when all is well with your MXS ,,, Woodstock

OK sneakyweasel here's my point again , it's great hearing that "you worked damn hard for them and that's why you found them even with those software issues . And I guess your the first person here that has the ability to use a faulty detector and getting outstanding results . Seriously it sounds like your MXS finds are better than others that have a perfect MXS ( and their are quite a few out there ) so maybe you should be careful what you wish for cause a software upgrade might just confuse you when you find less than you expect you will with it . It makes me wonder what you'll say then if that happens . I guess if it does you'll post it here ... Now regarding the headphones ... I find it hard to believe that Whites MXS headphones and Ratt's and Killer B's all sound basically the same . For that to actually happen they would all have the same drivers and same frequency res ponce / range and wires and the ear cups would also have to be similar as well and I doubt that is the case . Some detectors I owned would get unstable and I learned to keep them on and remove the battery's, wait about 30-40 seconds and replace the battery's and turn the detector back on with no more issues ... sort of rebooting the computer . e'nuff said..happy trails , Woodstock

Regarding my headphones, they ALL indicate a lack of audio modulation with the MXS and, in that respect are 'the same'. I'd also like to know who's been posting 5hat they have a 'perfect' MXS sans the audio modulation/pinpoint issues, since that would indicate a new revision of the software. I expect that, if a new software revision were to be released, and it too has problems, that I or anyone else that posted here pointing them out could look forward to your pooh-poohing and rather thinly veiled insults.

As for "And I guess your the first person here that has the ability to use a faulty detector and getting outstanding results.", you're wrong insofar as the MXS I have is not nonoperational. It's like buying a new car with cruise control and finding out that the cruise control doesn't work. The vehicle could still be easily driven, but I tend to think that most people would wish to get it fixed and, indeed, would be rather upset if the manufacturer didn't do so while it's under warranty.

 

[liondogs]

Well I just ordered a new MX Sport that has a build date of September and has all the latest mods. It arrives this week and I will let you know if there are any issues with the pinpoint or audio modulation. This should be a good test to see if Whites has got everything fixed when they restarted production last week.

 

[tboykin]

Joe, I think you will be happy with your results...