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FILL IN YOUR HOLES !!!

Don't be lazy and fill in those holes! ALWAYS! Doesn't matter what others do, be the better person and go the extra mile. All it takes is one person who is sue happy, see you not filling in your holes and gets hurt, sues, and a black mark is created on our hobby. Always be courteous, always be helpful to others, and always fill in your holes! Just my $.02
 
if you arent going to fill it-dont dig it..its that simple..... yes i have seen online vidoes of seasoned detectorists that have also left open holes.. fortunatly it is usually on a deserted beach and within the tide line..... if i dig it --i refill it..even i f the target was a 2 foot deep piece of trash....as far as children or parents diggin those monsterous holes-well thats there problem ,not mine..... you are very brave to open yourself up to this criticism but we ALL need to get onboard to protect this hobby and the joy it brings us..... dont be afraid to lead by example--some of those other detectorists might not be refilling there holes because they see that you arent...... im not badgering you just asking you to use common sense and good judgment happy hunting..
 
If you are not a kid playing in the sand, fill in your holes and take whatever you dig up with you, trash or treasure. There are people everywhere who don't understand our hobby, and what people don't understand, they don't like.
When people come up to me on the beach and ask me what I'm doing I pull some fish hooks out of my pouch and tell them I'm cleaning the beach..More and more places in this country are banning metal detecting because of inconsiderate
people who don't fill there holes. If you're in a park and you don't fill your holes it's only a matter of time before somebody will get detecting banned.
 
Volusia County Florida is were Daytona Beach is located. Has recently banned metal detecting in all county parks. Next will be there beaches. I been seeing a lot of new faces on the beach lately detecting and not filling there holes. If this continues there is going to be a lot of complaints.
 
You'll have to show me where it says this, I've been hunting parks for years and never heard of this.
 
I am extremely passionate about metal detecting. I could go on a major rant about how I feel about people not filling holes. More and more areas are being put off limits because people do not fill holes. It is imperative we give no reason for outlawing metal detecting. There are no excuses that apply. It is all about perception, and a detectorist leaving an area looking like a minefield, even if it is just for an hour before the tide comes in, is leaving a bad impression in the eyes of some. Just have the wrong person complain and we get shut out. We a re a tiny minority doing something many people would never care about if it was banned. We have to be aware that what we are doing can be banned anywhere at any time by the actions of just one individual.

I am going to be perfectly frank about it. If I had it within my power, if a person leaves trash on the ground or does not fill in their holes I would love to take away their detector and ban them from metal detecting for life. People that do this are a direct threat to me and what I like to do. I am quite selfish and all about preserving my right to do what I like to do.

If you do not have enough energy to fill in the hole you dug, do not dig the next one. Be a responsible detectorist.

From http://www.minelab.com/customer-care-1/code-of-ethics-for-responsible-metal-detecting

Regardless of the region that you detect, there are a number of best practices that should always be adhered to:

Do not trespass; always respect private property and do no metal detecting without the owner's permission.
It is advisable to get permission in writing, and to get agreement in writing first to avoid disputes regarding the ownership of any subsequent finds.
Never do anything that might contaminate wells, creeks or other water supplies.
Respect the country code, leave gates as they are found, do not damage crops, never deliberately disturb wild or domestic animals.
Never litter, always gather or collect any trash or debris you create or find.
Leave as little sign of your passing as possible.
Always use the correct digging or probing equipment to make the least intrusion or marks.
Always fill in your holes, including ploughed fields and beaches.
Never throw trash finds back in the hole.
Report the discovery of any items of possible significant historical value to a local historian or museum in accordance with the latest legislation of your area.
Never go metal detecting around archaeological monuments.
Report any live ammunition or other potentially lethal or toxic objects you may find to authorities after carefully noting or marking the location. Do not attempt to move or interfere with any such devices.
Contact the police if you find any traces of human remains.
Report all finds to the landowner/occupier.
Protect the metal detecting hobby by being a good will ambassador at all times.

Steve Herschbach
 
I wrote a lengthy (almost as much as Steve Herschbach's) response yesterday to DaytonaGold's original question last night. I had just spell checked it and then pressed the wrong key deleting the whole lot:stars:
Most everything that needs to be said has been said I believe on this issue. I would like to add just a few personal things if I may.......

In the city where I was born (it dates back pre-Roman times) the Romans built a lot of buildings/forts/structures and roads which are partially evident even today. So there are a lot of interesting historical and valuable artifacts in the ground everywhere from approx; 20 centuries of civilisation. Oh, by the way, they just found King Richard 3rd's skeleton in my hometown of Leicester, England!!

On one of my trips back to England and to my birthplace, I started to metal detect a local park. I had detected a gold ring and over 100 old coins and other interesting articles including silver items.
2 park rangers approached me. They said they "had been watching me for awhile" (lots of trees to hide behind) and although I had left the spots where I dug filled in and they had no issues in regard to that, they took my i.d. drivers license number, address where I was staying and said I needed to pack up my gear and leave the park.

They informed me that ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY AND COUNTY WERE BANNED FROM METAL DETECTORISTS. I was shocked and I asked why? They told me that one guy that was metal detecting had left holes exposed. He was observed and a complaint went to the City Council and it spiralled to a ban by County Council as well. I wrote a letter to the City Council and got a reply back re-affirming this was the law.
There is nothing in our hobby to really get my anger level rise than a guy not taking care of business and not filling his holes. So because of the actions, or lack of action of 1 person, thousands of responsible metal detectorists are royally screwed.
I hope we ALL take a lesson from this that it doesn't matter where you are, a beach...wet sand dry sand, a park, a civil war/battleground site (if your ever allowed to detect!) always fill those holes.
Also, ALWAYS ASSUME THAT YOU ARE BEING OBSERVED BY SOMEBODY SOMETIMES. When I go fishing, I always assume that (without being paranoid!) Fish and Game may have me sometimes in their binoculars and they can know if I'm not wearing a fishing license around my neck like you are by law supposed to do around here at least.
I most certainly would have been cited for perhaps vandalism by the park rangers if I did not fill my holes in completely on the park I used to play on as a kid! Sorry for the lengthy reply but this is a very passionate subject to all of us. We have to protect who and what we love the most. H.H. everyone.
 
Character is what you do when (you think) no one is looking.
 
n/t
 
ALWAYS fill your holes, on land or in the sand. People seem to feel entitled to do things based on perceived "rights". While I may agree with that to some extent, being a tax payer, the truth is that we are a far small minority to the general public, so we can't push our "rights" around without being drowned out by others with different views on this strange hobby of ours.

My motto is ALWAYS fly under the radar. If you avoid a potential problem then none will take place usually. Even in a park, if too many people show up and get close, I just leave to come back another day. I also try to stay out of site as much as possible, well away from people who's eyes might be watching, and keep my back turned to people or roads when I can while digging. With these tactics, in all my years, I have yet to be banned from a park or such.

Last year I was hunting a beach when I started noticing numerous unfilled holes. I asked my 3 friends if anybody forgot to fill some holes and they said no, which I knew anyway because we don't pull those kinds of stunts unless by total forgetful accident by chance.

Anyway, it was then I noticed a guy way down the beach and figured it must have been him. When he made his way near us he walked right up in front of my one friend who was obviously in the processing of gridding a row out, and dug a hole about 5 feet or so in front of his path he was taking. Then the guy turned around and left that massive deep/wide hole completely unfilled!

That was it! I tore of my headphones and yelled "Hey, you fill your holes!" The guy spun around and said meekly "Oh, I'm sorry, and proceeded to walk back to it, but I then said "I got it" and kicked the sand in. I watched him move down the beach and leave.

I now made it a habit to try to remember to bring my pocket camcorder with me on hunts, because if I find somebody doing this kind of thing again he's about to become an Internet sensation, because I plan to film him from a distance and then approach him on camera after I've caught what he's doing, and ask if he'd like to state his name since he's going to be famous now on You Tube.

I encourage anybody out there, with the advent of cell phones being able to record video, to catch anybody on film from a distance pulling stunts like this, on land or in the sand. But just be careful, as people have gotten violent for far less. Make sure you've got good support around you should you need it, and don't even approach him should you feel there is any risk. Just film from a distance and leave it at that then.

Nobody, no matter how "entitled" they may feel they are to not filling holes or picking up trash, likes to be caught and shamed, especially on camera. I can guarantee you if we catch a few of these ban makers on video for you tube, they'll stop doing such things in the future, not knowing who might be filming from a distance. I say a good defense is a good offense. If we continue to let these guys do these kinds of things we'll only see more and more parks and beaches banned.

Worse part is, that day...I was thinking that that guy probably left a ton of holes at the other end of the beach. Sure enough, later, a lady came walking by from that end and gave me the dirtiest look you could ever imagine. She wasn't there to swim, but rather to take a nice late summer walk on the beach. People like that tend to be older types, and if they step in a hole then imagine what might happen to them, and thus us.

PS- A kid digging sand castles doesn't know any better than to fill their holes. As adults, we are responsible for the safety of others, as well as the continued life of this hobby...

There's an old saying, that it's better to live to fight another day. For that reason, if anybody ever does approach me to complain about me detecting a park, rather than argue with them (which only leads to the police getting called or makes them prone to complain to the city...bad news), I just will quietly say "I'm sorry you seem to be upset" and leave to fight another day. Chances are I'll never see them again anyway, so what's the point is the way I look at it.
 
One must ask what is the ultimate objective in deciding whether to fill or not fill beach holes.
If the objective is to expend the least amount of energy-
then do not fill. However, for reasons stated elsewhere in this thread, one runs the risk of not being able to expend ANY energy hunting in the future.

If the objective is to help ensure future hunting trips to the beach-
the by all means fill in.

This is basically a risk-reward analysis and a question of picking your battles. There just aint enough upside in it for me to stop filling in. I'm letting others storm the castle and take a stand proving they're not doing anything illegal, immoral, unsafe, or unpopular.

There are too many bored idle Doogoodahs looking for a cause to champion and a sense of belonging for me to take a chance by not kicking sand back in my holes.

The issue is not one of right and wrong in the legal sense. The point made earlier about children's sand castles and moats is well taken, However, IMHO, other than bringing that up to prove this isn't really a safety issue, although correct, wont win any points with the general public.

Take a look back along your beach hunting path and be honest with yourself: Do you feel proud or do you feel like you'll have to defend your conduct?

Like it or not, guns, 16oz soft drinks, playing professional football, and now metal detecting are common-good safety issues. If you are truly concerned that at the beach you will be maimed by a Frisbee, sunburned, dehydrated, get trapped in a sandcastle moat or lose a limb falling into a hole from which a deep pull tab was recovered- STAY HOME!

The opinions expressed herein are my own and do not reflect those of PETA, The American Cancer Association, the NRA or CUPMDV (Citizens United for the Prevention of Metal Detecting Violence). . .
 
I have been on every beach up and down east and west coast Florida in the last 20 years so you probably saw me and I have always filled in my holes. And I have for sure not saw you or we both would have remembered about filling holes. It takes a lazy person that can not take the time to fill a hole especially in the sand. Why wait on the tide when it is just the right thing to do? HH :minelab::detecting:
 
Its a beach.... i know people take shovels and dig to their neck and leave, but we dont. Our hobby is watched be it beach or dirt.... people love to complain. You find its easier for park managers or who every manages a county area when they get a complaints.... rather than explain why ... just to put the area off limits to detecting. Our areas are being reduced and it doesnt matter what others using the same facility do..... we are scrunized. Ive been at it 20 years as well and kicking the sand in a hole isnt a big deal. BUT believe me i totally know your fellings about it..... it get agravating that we have to act differently than others, because like you said i pay $60 for an anual parking AND TAXES.

Dew
 
I hunted the beaches and several parks(OOP's) in Volusia county for the past three weeks and you would be hard pressed to find any of my holes. What I hate to do is to have to cover up someone elses holes and put the trash that they've found in the trash bins. I consider it as a favor to my fellow detectorists not to have to scan the same trash. I also consider it a public service to help clean up the beach of metal sharps that could ruin someones vacation. I plug them and pack them in the dirt,sand and water. And if I'm running a grid you will see where I've veered off to empty the trash from my finds pouch. Its just good PR.
 
n/t
 
Respect and concern for the rights of oneself and others mixed in with a little common sense needs to be etched into the mind of every metal detector hobbiest!!:)

If you care, lead by example! If you don't, get different hobby!!

Cupajo
 
You said you hunt parks around D beach, when you detected at those did you fill your holes back in?If not just think it might have been you that got the law changed so now no one can detect those parks
 
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