:clapping:GARRETT'S NEW ATX PI DETECTOR VIDEO

[Tony]

I like what I have seen and heard about this new detector.
I sent Garrett an email re purchase price and shipping cost to Australia but have not had a reply yet.

I'm thinking it will cost us $3000 - $3500 here.......I can't see them selling too many here at that price ??

That is moving into the second hand GPX price range........if it performs as well then anything could happen.

Tony.

 

[Old California]

Sorry for the slow reply, Just got home from work.

Yes, By all means the Recon is more than a decent Pi. You can find them used for under $500 shipped, Has a couple of things I would like different but overall it's a great pi.

Going to keep mine, See if the new coils operate on the Recon that will be a plus.

Take care,
Paul

 

[Tony]

Sorry for the slow reply, Just got home from work.

Yes, By all means the Recon is more than a decent Pi. You can find them used for under $500 shipped, Has a couple of things I would like different but overall it's a great pi.

Going to keep mine, See if the new coils operate on the Recon that will be a plus.

Take care,
Paul

Paul,

Do you know how deep your recon will hit on a buried US nickel in beach sand?

Thanks,
Tony.

 

[SavingThePast]

i see no difference between it and the recon except the faceplate decal which i asume is do to different programming on the pcb. i wonder if the only difference between the two is programmning and what the possibility would be to get garrett to let someone pay to have the recon either reprogrammed or have them install a new pcb? just curious.. california, how do you like the recon overall? is it a decent machine if someone wanted to get a PI just to mess around with?

Did you notice the coils?

yes i did. the large coil for the atx looks exactly like the large coil available for the recon and I believe the 8" that comes on the recon is also an optional coil for the atx. The only coil that looks different to me is the 10x12 dd that comes on the atx. I could be wrong but if i had to guess i would bet they are all interchangeable..

 

[Leslie(nova scotia)]

n/t

 

[steve herschbach]

Detecting is my passion. I have been at it since 1972 and detecting has been instrumental in the direction of my life. I became a dealer and the business expanded into something that supported me my entire adult life. Now I have retired from the business to full time metal detect and write.

I fully appreciate that for a hobbyist $2500 is a lot of money. However, people seem to have no problem buying ATVs, snowmobiles, RVs, big trucks, Harley's, boats, and even golf clubs that cost more than all my detectors combined. I do not have any other stuff - detecting is my gig. So for me having $10,000 plus wrapped up in detecting gear is not a big deal. In fact, considering the fact I make money detecting it seems like one if life's cheaper endeavors to me.

The ATX was not made for the average detectorist. It is aimed at the performance segment of the market, for people willing to invest good money in the quest for high value targets. At the end of the day I am a pretty frugal guy and I value my hard earned dollars. I would not spend the money on the ATX unless I thought it had the potential of paying for itself, and I believe it does. The only way for me o find out us get one. If I am wrong, I will sell it at a small loss. But one thing I learned long ago is the only opinion on detectors that matters to me is my own. It does not matter if it does or does not work for others. It only has to work for me.

Just another perspective on detectors and the cost thereof.

 

[steve herschbach]

Hi Paul,

Now my impression listening. To the video is the ATX is dual tone like the Infinium. I hope you are right and I am wrong!

 

[Old California]

Hi Tony,

Haven't tried the Recon at the beach only use it for fresh water hunting, We have allot of black sand here in Central California at the local lakes and rivers that only a Pi will get the depth we need for the deeper masked signals.

However, Once at a school was testing to see how deep it would detect a buried nickel. Buried three nickels one at 6", 8" and third at 10' inches. It hit the 6" with ease and even the 8" was a clear signal but not the 10" inch. Re-dug the 10" and rasied it down to 9" inches and the Recon got the 9" buried nickel a clear two-way signal was very pleased.

Now that is with the stock 8" coil, I'm sure it would go allot deeper with the larger coils.

Also want to add I noticed on the ATX video it hit that small nugget with ease and that was using the DD coil, The shot with the Garrett user waving a nugget on his finger across the coil the ATX was able to detect the nugget. Now I know my Recon like the back of my hand and trust me my Recon could never hit something that small, Based from the video shot of the ATX hitting on that small nugget it must have more sensitivity over the Recon and I sure hope it does that alone would make me spring for an ATX.

Going to keep my Recon, Hopefully the ATX coils will work with the Recon may even pick up an ATX if the posts from ATX users come in positive on sensitivity. Would like try the middle size DD coil on the Recon see if that has any effect on sensitivity and Depth, Even compare the two (ATX & Recon) Then share that information with other Recon users.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

Hi Steve,

Went over the video again listening very carefully to the audio, Yes I think you're right what fooled me was the small nugget tone sounded close to a Military version single tone Pi but after listening to other sounds later in the video appears to be dual tone like the Infinium. But then again my Recon will give a dual tone on conductive targets that fall between low and high conductive range, Hope that was the case with the dual tone in the video but I think you're right may be a dual tone similar to the Infinium.

Starting to wonder if they incorporated the Infinium tones into the ATX to keep it priced lower than what the Military pays for the higher priced single tone Military version? Makes sense something has to be left out in order to keep the price down so Garrett can get top dollar for the Military single tone version?

Paid $550.00 for my Recon 2 years ago, Since then have seen some sell less and some a bit more still anyone that picks them up near this price that is a great deal for a used Recon. At least two factors need to take place for me to get the ATX, First the sensitivity needs to be increased and based from the nugget response on the video looks like this has happened, (Second) Need the ATX to have consistent threshold stability as mineralization changes or responding to an abundance of targets and if I could have a third wish that would be a faster recovery speed.

Once sold you my Inifinum many many years ago and since have gone back to the Infinium at least 2-3 times, It's a love hate relationship with the Infinium but those that know it is one good Pi maybe one of the best ever made.

Take care Steve and enjoy your retirement
Paul (Ca)

 

[Tony]

Hi Tony,

Haven't tried the Recon at the beach only use it for fresh water hunting, We have allot of black sand here in Central California at the local lakes and rivers that only a Pi will get the depth we need for the deeper masked signals.

However, Once at a school was testing to see how deep it would detect a buried nickel. Buried three nickels one at 6", 8" and third at 10' inches. It hit the 6" with ease and even the 8" was a clear signal but not the 10" inch. Re-dug the 10" and rasied it down to 9" inches and the Recon got the 9" buried nickel a clear two-way signal was very pleased.

Now that is with the stock 8" coil, I'm sure it would go allot deeper with the larger coils.

Also want to add I noticed on the ATX video it hit that small nugget with ease and that was using the DD coil, The shot with the Garrett user waving a nugget on his finger across the coil the ATX was able to detect the nugget. Now I know my Recon like the back of my hand and trust me my Recon could never hit something that small, Based from the video shot of the ATX hitting on that small nugget it must have more sensitivity over the Recon and I sure hope it does that alone would make me spring for an ATX.

Going to keep my Recon, Hopefully the ATX coils will work with the Recon may even pick up an ATX if the posts from ATX users come in positive on sensitivity. Would like try the middle size DD coil on the Recon see if that has any effect on sensitivity and Depth, Even compare the two (ATX & Recon) Then share that information with other Recon users.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

Thanks Paul for taking the time to respond !!

HH
Tony

 

[Old California]

Hi Tony,

This may not apply to your question but been wanting to share this on the forum but keep forgetting, As far as I know at least two versions of the Recon are out there to the general public, One has an addition feature which is being able to adjust the sensitivity the other has a fixed sensitivity setting.

With more and more Recon Pi's surfacing on ebay just thought people would like to know more than one Recon version was made.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

 

[SavingThePast]

hi paul, how would one check a unit to see if it has adjustable sensitivity? I was just looking on garretts website and it states it has 7 selectable preset senistivity adjustments but it doesnt say what button press it would take.

Hi Tony,

This may not apply to your question but been wanting to share this on the forum but keep forgetting, As far as I know at least two versions of the Recon are out there to the general public, One has an addition feature which is being able to adjust the sensitivity the other has a fixed sensitivity setting.

With more and more Recon Pi's surfacing on ebay just thought people would like to know more than one Recon version was made.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

My Recon has the preset sensitivity feature, Not the adjustable version.

I would assume the manual or field guide on the adjustable Sens version would state it to be adjustable, I believe it's a series of holding down the (J) button and Tap F (-) to reduce sensitivity and Tap F (+) to increase sensitivity. The Recon with the adjustable sens is set to Maximum when first turned on, Can't remember if it saves the sens setting when powering the unit down. My version is the preset Sens version which I believe is maxed out, Could be wrong though. One thing, My Recon is a motionless Pi so one can pinpoint without swinging. Think the new ATX has both features, motionless and non-motionless detection so that's another added feature to the new ATX version.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

 

[StephenA]

Ok, so has one of these things?????

 

[SavingThePast]

thanks for the info paul. You have me kinda confused though, when you say the recon is a motionless pi what do you mean?

My Recon has the preset sensitivity feature, Not the adjustable version.

I would assume the manual or field guide on the adjustable Sens version would state it to be adjustable, I believe it's a series of holding down the (J) button and Tap F (-) to reduce sensitivity and Tap F (+) to increase sensitivity. The Recon with the adjustable sens is set to Maximum when first turned on, Can't remember if it saves the sens setting when powering the unit down. My version is the preset Sens version which I believe is maxed out, Could be wrong though. One thing, My Recon is a motionless Pi so one can pinpoint without swinging. Think the new ATX has both features, motionless and non-motionless detection so that's another added feature to the new ATX version.

Take care,
Paul (Ca)

 

[PowerDetecting]

Motionless means it will detect the metal present without movement. The coil does not have to be in motion.

 

[SavingThePast]

ok. thank you. i assumed thats what it meant but wanted to be sure.

Motionless means it will detect the metal present without movement. The coil does not have to be in motion.

 

[cachefinder]

The ATX and the RE Con Pro AML 1000 are different. Talking to Garrett Monday the coils will not interchange, Amx will go deeper, more adjustments
The AML was made before the minelab CTX 30/30. The ATX will be able to use 3 coils the new 10 x 12" Double D coil standard 8"mono and the 15 x 20" mono. Will be out in October Basic unit $2120.75 w/ 10 x 12" DD With the Deepseeker package 15 X 20 $2546.56 is what I know now. Have 3 weeks to come up with the money If I get one this fall. My intended uses are detecting deep sand beaches(in Iowa), old out houses, septic tanks, old farm machinery, culverts, brass survey markers 2 to 3 feet deep, and of coarse caches. Hope to be able to use in buildings-house-cellars-basements with dirt floors If I can't get one now then I'll save up for Spring.

Have to get my AT Pro out and find a dozen or 2 gold rings or one 3 carat diamond ring to help pay for the ATX.

 

[Rob in (Ca)]

IMO......... If The iron discrimination works correctly.......... and you get the deep PI depth............It's somewhat stable on a salt water beach............ Any average beach Hunter would pay off the asking $2k off in no time

 

[Tony]

IMO......... If The iron discrimination works correctly.......... and you get the deep PI depth............It's somewhat stable on a salt water beach............ Any average beach Hunter would pay the asking $2k off in no time

Paul is 100% correct with his assessment.......the problem is they will be $3000 + down here........:veryangry: