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BEST AND WORST TESORO EVER MADE??
- Thread starter speedbiu
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I don't believe I ever used a Tesoro I didn't like, and I have never used a Tesoro that I didn't understand. But I have been confused with bewildered with most of the other top brands. With all the other ID machines I've used I've had to read and memorize a manual or carry it with me. But not with a Tesoro ID machine. The Deleon is basic and gives me all the information I need to know and the depth is equal to most at double the price. Some people will never be happy until the ID tells you everything. The size,weight,depth, the domination. Whats next? The year is was minted or the coins current market value?
I believe the best Tesoro is the one I'm using and the worst hasn't been made yet and hopefully never will......enuff said.
I believe the best Tesoro is the one I'm using and the worst hasn't been made yet and hopefully never will......enuff said.
I forgot to ad that I keep hearing the word "Ace" like it was the "Best Detector Ever Made" and the others like F2. I've owned the "Ace" and I found its ID very inaccurate and well... mostly useless. I don't think the F2 would be much better. The only thing I liked about the Ace was the "Bell Tone". The Tesoros ID is way better and is more accurate in my opinion. What Tesoro lacks on almost all of it's models is ID tones. I'd like to see them ad that to there units and that's all they need.
Seeing that everyone likes there Garrett Ace and Fisher F2 so much better why don't we change the subject to the "Best and Worst" Garrett and Fisher ever made? I think there list would be much longer in the "Worst" category, and Garrett would be top of that list. The Ace preforms very well for the cost but Garrett just got lucky with this one and totally saturated the market with them. For years Tesoro hasn't had to saturate the market with any of the detectors and has held there own with there name and that's all.
If anyone out there wants to sell me there Tesoro ID machine I'll gladly give them $150 for the Deleon and they can replace it with a "new" Ace 150 or F2. And I'll give them $212 for there Cortes and they can buy a "new" 250. If there are any takers drop me a PM. That being said, I stick with a Tesoro.
eNuff said...
Seeing that everyone likes there Garrett Ace and Fisher F2 so much better why don't we change the subject to the "Best and Worst" Garrett and Fisher ever made? I think there list would be much longer in the "Worst" category, and Garrett would be top of that list. The Ace preforms very well for the cost but Garrett just got lucky with this one and totally saturated the market with them. For years Tesoro hasn't had to saturate the market with any of the detectors and has held there own with there name and that's all.
If anyone out there wants to sell me there Tesoro ID machine I'll gladly give them $150 for the Deleon and they can replace it with a "new" Ace 150 or F2. And I'll give them $212 for there Cortes and they can buy a "new" 250. If there are any takers drop me a PM. That being said, I stick with a Tesoro.
eNuff said...
Yes I had an Ace250 last year. I was not impressed at all. The only Garrett I ever liked (out of the 4 I've owned) was the old Freedom 2. It didn't have ID, it was just a beep and dig with dual discriminators, and a trigger pinpoint (sound familiar??). I found a lot of great stuff with that machine.
Dan
Dan
Howdy waynebo
Would you care to tell how us how little depth this machine has? I've owned one since 1994 and just love it. It has given me plenty of good signals down to 8 inches on silver dimes. Quarters to about 10 inches. Were you using good quality head phones? Because you need to hear the soft audio responce of deeeep targets, you should have your volume cranked up on your headphones.Also you can't rely on the meter to give spot on readings, deep targets read downscale on the meter. Once you get enough hours on the machine you can walk into an old hunted out spot and get the coins, relics, and old jewelry others have missed.Just my take on the Toltec II, since I know it like the back of my hand.Have a good'n........Hombre
Would you care to tell how us how little depth this machine has? I've owned one since 1994 and just love it. It has given me plenty of good signals down to 8 inches on silver dimes. Quarters to about 10 inches. Were you using good quality head phones? Because you need to hear the soft audio responce of deeeep targets, you should have your volume cranked up on your headphones.Also you can't rely on the meter to give spot on readings, deep targets read downscale on the meter. Once you get enough hours on the machine you can walk into an old hunted out spot and get the coins, relics, and old jewelry others have missed.Just my take on the Toltec II, since I know it like the back of my hand.Have a good'n........Hombre
I'm with you Hombre! I just can't figure out how, except for operator error that some people can't get depth from a awesome machine like the Toltec II. And some of the above could even dare to compare the Deleon and Cortes to the Ace 150/250, F2 or even a Bounty Hunter! But to each there own I guess. But to me the proof is easy to see when there used properly. In a side by side comparison a properly used Tesoro with beat those others hands down, period.
It's easier to blame the detector I guess. My pet peeve is when someone says the best depth they could get was 6 inches or less. But if they tuned there detectors and used there coils properly and closely "scrubbed" the ground with there coils they would increase there depth tremendously. Some users keep there coil 2 inches and more above the ground surface and complain that they only can get 6" at best from there unit. But do any of them know what the coil cover was originally used for? I doubt it.
There isn't any "bad" Tesoros out there, just uninformed and impatient operators that only want to use simple to operate detectors with amazing results. And the last time I checked around, there wasn't any out there. Knowledge is the key to success! e'Nuff said !
It's easier to blame the detector I guess. My pet peeve is when someone says the best depth they could get was 6 inches or less. But if they tuned there detectors and used there coils properly and closely "scrubbed" the ground with there coils they would increase there depth tremendously. Some users keep there coil 2 inches and more above the ground surface and complain that they only can get 6" at best from there unit. But do any of them know what the coil cover was originally used for? I doubt it.
There isn't any "bad" Tesoros out there, just uninformed and impatient operators that only want to use simple to operate detectors with amazing results. And the last time I checked around, there wasn't any out there. Knowledge is the key to success! e'Nuff said !
I hear ya Woodstock, just look at all the "used detectors" that are up for sale on FeeBay and the various detecting forums, some of these detectors have'nt even had a set of batterys used up in them! I still have every Tesoro that I have purchased. The first one being the Toltec II.Through the years i have picked up a Tiger Shark,a first model Bandido, and a Bandido II uMax. None of these detectors are "back up machines" I just pick one out that suites my mood at the time.
I like the subtle audio tones that these detectors respond to on various targets buried in real soil matrix at depth, once a person gets to know their detector well they wont have to look at a meter or digital target id. I can tell by the sound if it is a good target or not.I do not put much faith in air tests either, I never found a coin floating in the air! I seem to get better depth in the ground than in air tests, so I guess my soil is pretty good. Y'all have a good'n..........Hombre
I like the subtle audio tones that these detectors respond to on various targets buried in real soil matrix at depth, once a person gets to know their detector well they wont have to look at a meter or digital target id. I can tell by the sound if it is a good target or not.I do not put much faith in air tests either, I never found a coin floating in the air! I seem to get better depth in the ground than in air tests, so I guess my soil is pretty good. Y'all have a good'n..........Hombre
Yea Hombre, My first detector was a Garrett TR (1981) and back then I wasn't to impressed. Then I used a used Whites Coinmaster V (1982) and I liked it alot. The faster the sweep and the scrubbing the coil brought me many IH and Barbers at at least 9" or more. But that old unit required a learning curve even back then. My third was the 1st generation Silver Sabre (1983) and I still own it today and used it now and then and it pulls sliver at 8" easy. I've only had three Tesoro's to date. The Sabre, a Lobo ST and now I have a Deleon. I've owned the all at one time or another and Tesoros hold there own and are some of the best out there today and will be in the future. Happy Hunting and Trail to All, Woodstock
The Vaquero "the worst" after owning it for 2 days? How can you possibly be in a position to judge it one way or another with so little use? Traded for an MXT makes me think that you were not into a "beep and dig" machine. Maybe if you had spent some time with it, and learned the machine, you would have a different opinion. I'm not looking to start something here, but your experience (or lack of it) with the Tesoro hardly qualifies to call it the worst.
Dan
Dan
Michigan Badger
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and they only made two types of machines. The good and the great.
But I have a hard time deciding which was which.
Badger
But I have a hard time deciding which was which.
Badger
Howdy waynebo
Since you can't put together a full paragraph in your posts, and reply in short broken sentences. I can see why you would'nt reply to my question about lack of depth you were getting on the Toltec II. You're probably blowing smoke, and never owned one anyway. It does not matter to me what you think , I will continue to use the Toltec II with added success along with my other detectors which I use on an alternating basis.
I don't have a favorite Tesoro.............I like all four of the ones I own. I'm not a rich guy moneywise by any means.I have aquired these detectors, one at a time, the hard way, by saving up "rat hole Money" and looking for the detectors i want in the classified section of the forums.But I consider myself rich in experience in the hobby i love, I've been doing this teckt'n thing everysince I bought my first Tesoro .......The Toltec II, which I still own. This has been the greatest hobby I have ever done. I have stuck with it now since 1994. And I don't plan on quitting soon!! Y'all have yourself a GOOD hunting trip>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hombre
Since you can't put together a full paragraph in your posts, and reply in short broken sentences. I can see why you would'nt reply to my question about lack of depth you were getting on the Toltec II. You're probably blowing smoke, and never owned one anyway. It does not matter to me what you think , I will continue to use the Toltec II with added success along with my other detectors which I use on an alternating basis.
I don't have a favorite Tesoro.............I like all four of the ones I own. I'm not a rich guy moneywise by any means.I have aquired these detectors, one at a time, the hard way, by saving up "rat hole Money" and looking for the detectors i want in the classified section of the forums.But I consider myself rich in experience in the hobby i love, I've been doing this teckt'n thing everysince I bought my first Tesoro .......The Toltec II, which I still own. This has been the greatest hobby I have ever done. I have stuck with it now since 1994. And I don't plan on quitting soon!! Y'all have yourself a GOOD hunting trip>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hombre
Michigan Badger
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Hombre said:
This is a great posting!
It took me years to learn that air and fresh buried tests are very misleading. Even an old coin garden is untrustworthy. Old coins and jewelry are usually masked in with plenty of trash. Most coin gardens are free of trash and therefore unrealistic.
And too, long time buried items like Indian cents and Barber dimes react totally different from items buried only a few years or so.
Michigan Badger
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Woodstock said:
There are people who compare the DeLeon to a F2? Man! and I thought I had an imagination.
I owned that F2 and from day one I wondered where in China it was made. It was great except it couldn't detect a quarter 5 inches deep and the meter was totally off on anything more than 3 inches deep. I traded it off and was sure glad the guy didn't ask me how I liked it.
The Aces are okay for what they are but the DeLeon is about twice as deep and has too many other advantages to mention.
I've "only" had two Tesoros - Silver Sabre and Golden Sabre. Love them both.
Golden Sabre. I have gotten a lot out of this machine, including a Merc dime at an amazing depth years ago in an old park. I have the discrim marked on the panel for pull tabs and nickels, and hunt below nickels. When I get a signal, I gradually turn up the discrim, and if it drops out at the nickel mark, I dig it. If it drops out at the pull tab, I don't dig that. Other stuff I dig, looking for rings. I've found that the signals are accurate and repeatable.
Siver Sabre: I use a small coil on this, and it is a great kids machine. Easy to operate, friendly, and unintimidating. The kids can have fun, and not bug you every 2 minutes. I do use this machine occasionally and like it.
Depth is figured by raising the coil and seeing where the signal drops out.
Easy, huh?
Tesoros service is the standard that other manufacturers should emulate. I sent in my Tesoros to get a new coil on the GS and the tech calibrated both machines FREE. I called to thank him, and after a great conversation, he sent me a couple of pages from a treasure magazine about a site near here. Guys like this are wonderful, and so is the company that employs him.
Golden Sabre. I have gotten a lot out of this machine, including a Merc dime at an amazing depth years ago in an old park. I have the discrim marked on the panel for pull tabs and nickels, and hunt below nickels. When I get a signal, I gradually turn up the discrim, and if it drops out at the nickel mark, I dig it. If it drops out at the pull tab, I don't dig that. Other stuff I dig, looking for rings. I've found that the signals are accurate and repeatable.
Siver Sabre: I use a small coil on this, and it is a great kids machine. Easy to operate, friendly, and unintimidating. The kids can have fun, and not bug you every 2 minutes. I do use this machine occasionally and like it.
Depth is figured by raising the coil and seeing where the signal drops out.
Easy, huh?
Tesoros service is the standard that other manufacturers should emulate. I sent in my Tesoros to get a new coil on the GS and the tech calibrated both machines FREE. I called to thank him, and after a great conversation, he sent me a couple of pages from a treasure magazine about a site near here. Guys like this are wonderful, and so is the company that employs him.
Howdy Michigan Badger
Thanks for your thoughtful reply, I have been in this hobby fourteen years,a short time i'm sure from the reports of some of you OL' Heads in the hobby. But i have become a student in the art form of Teckt'n, in this short time that I have been doing this hobby I have tried to glean everything I could learn. From reading W&E Treasures to books written by Ty Brooks , CJC , Robert Sinclair and others . Then I go out in the fields and OLD homesights and pratice. You have to swing your coil over old and historic ground to find the things that make treasure magazine articles, and I am working on a story to submit to some treasure mag. The item I found was found with a Tesoro detector...........the great Toltec II. This machine may not be the deepest , but it is the detector I seem to make my greatest finds with.This is the key to succesful detecting, get to know your detector......period. HH ....................Hombre
Thanks for your thoughtful reply, I have been in this hobby fourteen years,a short time i'm sure from the reports of some of you OL' Heads in the hobby. But i have become a student in the art form of Teckt'n, in this short time that I have been doing this hobby I have tried to glean everything I could learn. From reading W&E Treasures to books written by Ty Brooks , CJC , Robert Sinclair and others . Then I go out in the fields and OLD homesights and pratice. You have to swing your coil over old and historic ground to find the things that make treasure magazine articles, and I am working on a story to submit to some treasure mag. The item I found was found with a Tesoro detector...........the great Toltec II. This machine may not be the deepest , but it is the detector I seem to make my greatest finds with.This is the key to succesful detecting, get to know your detector......period. HH ....................Hombre
Michigan Badger said:
Howdy BUM LUCK
It seems to me that you know how to unlock the secrets that make for good detecting. Like you, I have been putting in the hours to know my detector well, raising your coil to determine depth is a good technique, also raising your coil a little bit above small iron trash signals and doing a little wiggle over a suspected good signal will pluck those goodies out of the iron pits that i hunt in. When hunting next to an old house foundation you run into lots of old roofing nails, this is the time to put on the smallest coil that you have and make slow and deliberate coil passes to find the goodies that other hunters before you have run away from!!!! Have a good'n.........Hombre
It seems to me that you know how to unlock the secrets that make for good detecting. Like you, I have been putting in the hours to know my detector well, raising your coil to determine depth is a good technique, also raising your coil a little bit above small iron trash signals and doing a little wiggle over a suspected good signal will pluck those goodies out of the iron pits that i hunt in. When hunting next to an old house foundation you run into lots of old roofing nails, this is the time to put on the smallest coil that you have and make slow and deliberate coil passes to find the goodies that other hunters before you have run away from!!!! Have a good'n.........Hombre