A Friendly Wager! My AT Pro VS Your Etrac

[Greek2Me]

Not in the same class as the E-Trac on deep silver.Not much deep coinage 9"+ in the Springfield area because of the rocky soil in many areas.Get in some deep black KS soil and the E-Trac has been hitting Wheat's,Indians and silver dimes quite often at well beyond the 9" mark for me and another forum member.
The AT is a great machine for the price but once you learn the E-Trac you will understand which is better for deep and or masked coins,Ray.
PS would love to compare some targets in the field but have no desire to wager as I do not gamble for personal reasons.

No need to wager if you want to just compare the two. That would be great! I know you and another local forum member are both quite skilled with your etracs.

G2M

 

[Goes4ever]

I can tell you this, I did a field test on the AT Pro and I had it for one week, I was less than impressed with it's depth abilities. I took it to an old farm, and some empty lots where houses were tore down. It is horrible in iron infested areas and could not hang with the etrac. If I was even close I would gladly hunt with you. If you took time to learn your etrac you would never hunt with your AT Pro again for old coins. The etrac is KING for coin shooting

I also took the AT Pro over my coin garden and it barely made a peep with full sensitivity over the coins that the etrac sang loudly over. for $500 bucks, I would much rather use my minelab x70...... There is absolutely no comparison in the abilities of the etrac and the AT Pro.

 

[kirk01]

I can tell you this, I did a field test on the AT Pro and I had it for one week, I was less than impressed with it's depth abilities. I took it to an old farm, and some empty lots where houses were tore down. It is horrible in iron infested areas and could not hang with the etrac. If I was even close I would gladly hunt with you. If you took time to learn your etrac you would never hunt with your AT Pro again for old coins. The etrac is KING for coin shooting

I also took the AT Pro over my coin garden and it barely made a peep with full sensitivity over the coins that the etrac sang loudly over. for $500 bucks, I would much rather use my minelab x70...... There is absolutely no comparison in the abilities of the etrac and the AT Pro.

After about 30 hours in the field with the AT-Pro I have found about 8 pieces of clad, one silver dime 3 inches deep in sand and one gold ring in about 3 feet of water 4 inches deep.

Over the same period of time with the XT-70/705 my wife and I have found over 10 silver coins lots of clad and two gold rings, same areas.

"There is absolutely no comparison in the abilities of the etrac and the AT Pro."

Or the X-Terra.

Good hunting

Denny

 

[Greek2Me]

I can tell you this, I did a field test on the AT Pro and I had it for one week, I was less than impressed with it's depth abilities. I took it to an old farm, and some empty lots where houses were tore down. It is horrible in iron infested areas and could not hang with the etrac. If I was even close I would gladly hunt with you. If you took time to learn your etrac you would never hunt with your AT Pro again for old coins. The etrac is KING for coin shooting

I also took the AT Pro over my coin garden and it barely made a peep with full sensitivity over the coins that the etrac sang loudly over. for $500 bucks, I would much rather use my minelab x70...... There is absolutely no comparison in the abilities of the etrac and the AT Pro.

Interesting comments. That's why I want to hunt next to an experienced etrac user. I want to see first hand why my AT Pro isn't even close to my etrac.

G2M

 

[joedirt]

The cool thing about the Etrac and the AT Pro is that the coil is removable on both of them.

I think it would be more entertaining if the two of you just removed the coils and had a sword fight with the shafts.

 

[John LA]

People are looking at videos or reading the Garrett manual or talking to Dealers and board members about Ground Balancing. The depth improves if you set it 10 below the auto GB. In a salt area you may have to pick the middle of two auto GBs. If you auto GB it moves to a point lets say 80 and it you move the manual GB down low (maybe 30) and auto GB again it will move up to lets say 60.
I still wouldn't say the Pro is as deep as the Etrac but much closer and cheaper and light weight. One would even add that its water proof.

 

[Smooth23]

Ground balancing, just another reason to love my etrac(and a large part of the reason I bought the etrac) Love not having to deal with ground balancing, and love its stability in areas where I've had issues with EMI.

 

[jim tn]

Well, I don't have either detector, so it really doesn't make a great deal of difference to me who wins if there is a face off. One thing I have observed, though. Having a detector at a lesser price that will do (maybe) as well as one that costs more is of little consequence if it is continuously having to go back to the factory as new glitches and problems continue to crop up. Not to mention, initial arm cuff situation, headphones, necessary adapters to use ones own headphones, headphone wire placement and coil and headphone connections, to mention a few. Hmmmmmm! HH jim tn

 

[D&P-OR]

Well, I don't have either detector, so it really doesn't make a great deal of difference to me who wins if there is a face off. One thing I have observed, though. Having a detector at a lesser price that will do (maybe) as well as one that costs more is of little consequence if it is continuously having to go back to the factory as new glitches and problems continue to crop up. Not to mention, initial arm cuff situation, headphones, necessary adapters to use ones own headphones, headphone wire placement and coil and headphone connections, to mention a few. Hmmmmmm! HH jim tn

I was just waiting for that one (those comments) to come up Jim.----GOOD POINTS!! ------------Del

 

[sugar]

I don't want to plant coins. I want real world hunting conditions. The reason I say that. I planted a dime at 8" a quarter at 10" and a half at 12". They both picked up the dime. The etrac hit on the quarter, the AT Pro didn't. However, the etrac didn't make a peep or show anything on the vdi on the half. The AT Pro didn't sound off, but did register an 85 on the vdi several times. So, its really hard for me to get a true feel for these machines with recently buried coins.


As I have stated, I just want to have some good fun with an etrac user and maybe get shown that my little $500 AT Pro can't hold a candle to this $1250 machine called an etrac.


Its all about learning, not bragging.
G2M

interesting that the etrac didnt see the half but i have to know what sensitivity were you running at please and were you in conductive or ferrous and what were your deep and fast on or off these settings can make all the difference thanks????????

 

[Greek2Me]

I don't want to plant coins. I want real world hunting conditions. The reason I say that. I planted a dime at 8" a quarter at 10" and a half at 12". They both picked up the dime. The etrac hit on the quarter, the AT Pro didn't. However, the etrac didn't make a peep or show anything on the vdi on the half. The AT Pro didn't sound off, but did register an 85 on the vdi several times. So, its really hard for me to get a true feel for these machines with recently buried coins.


As I have stated, I just want to have some good fun with an etrac user and maybe get shown that my little $500 AT Pro can't hold a candle to this $1250 machine called an etrac.


Its all about learning, not bragging.
G2M

interesting that the etrac didnt see the half but i have to know what sensitivity were you running at please and were you in conductive or ferrous and what were your deep and fast on or off these settings can make all the difference thanks????????

 

[Greek2Me]

I don't want to plant coins. I want real world hunting conditions. The reason I say that. I planted a dime at 8" a quarter at 10" and a half at 12". They both picked up the dime. The etrac hit on the quarter, the AT Pro didn't. However, the etrac didn't make a peep or show anything on the vdi on the half. The AT Pro didn't sound off, but did register an 85 on the vdi several times. So, its really hard for me to get a true feel for these machines with recently buried coins.


As I have stated, I just want to have some good fun with an etrac user and maybe get shown that my little $500 AT Pro can't hold a candle to this $1250 machine called an etrac.


Its all about learning, not bragging.
G2M

interesting that the etrac didnt see the half but i have to know what sensitivity were you running at please and were you in conductive or ferrous and what were your deep and fast on or off these settings can make all the difference thanks????????

I was running the stock coin program from the factory. I didn't adjust anything.

G2M

 

[digmeahole]

I cant believe this post made 3 pages.

 

[Ray-Mo.]

Then you will hit a half and silver dollar at extreme depths.

 

[sugar]

I don't want to plant coins. I want real world hunting conditions. The reason I say that. I planted a dime at 8" a quarter at 10" and a half at 12". They both picked up the dime. The etrac hit on the quarter, the AT Pro didn't. However, the etrac didn't make a peep or show anything on the vdi on the half. The AT Pro didn't sound off, but did register an 85 on the vdi several times. So, its really hard for me to get a true feel for these machines with recently buried coins.


As I have stated, I just want to have some good fun with an etrac user and maybe get shown that my little $500 AT Pro can't hold a candle to this $1250 machine called an etrac.


Its all about learning, not bragging.
G2M

interesting that the etrac didnt see the half but i have to know what sensitivity were you running at please and were you in conductive or ferrous and what were your deep and fast on or off these settings can make all the difference thanks????????

I was running the stock coin program from the factory. I didn't adjust anything.

G2M

that may be a problem as you will have been running in auto sensitivity and as this is fine for most hunting if i were testing it for depth i would be inclined to use manual sensitivity which will pick up all the deep finds this is interesting and good that we are keeping it informative to switch in the field on the go as it were to manual just use the four directional arrows bottom left hit left or right will put you into manual and top and bottom will increase or decrease you will know you are in auto as there will be a dotted circle at the top going round clockwise when you go into manual you will see the difference straight away also as already stated you need to clear your top right hand corner so it is all about learning how to hunt and understand this magical machine WHOOOPEE

 

[digmeahole]

Go here... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?71,1474104 Download this file.....Andy S Coin Hunting Pattern opened up 4 Gold.ptrn

and your silver and any gold issues should go the way of the Dodo bird

 

[Greek2Me]

Thanks for the pointers. I will most definetly be giving both those ideas a go.

G2M

 

[D&P-OR]

Thanks for the pointers. I will most definetly be giving both those ideas a go.

G2M

No wonder you want to (think you can) challenge the Etrac with that AT Pro.-----You haven't even got the Etrac set up right for deep coins! (let alone dollars, SOME halves, or stacked quarters).-----I think I was one of the very first that discovered the need to edit out that top right (bar) line when the Etrac first came out, doing that is very important.-----Another tip---get that FE line opened up down to 27 (28 on blacked).---That's going to help you a LOT on deep (difficult) targets.------Hey, make some of these (proper) adjustments & you may have second thoughts about challenging the BIG "E" with the little "g"!-------This last sentence oughta REALLY make me an over night hit with the Garrett crowd! --------------Del

 

[Greek2Me]

Thanks for the pointers. I will most definetly be giving both those ideas a go.

G2M

No wonder you want to (think you can) challenge the Etrac with that AT Pro.-----You haven't even got the Etrac set up right for deep coins! (let alone dollars, SOME halves, or stacked quarters).-----I think I was one of the very first that discovered the need to edit out that top right (bar) line when the Etrac first came out, doing that is very important.-----Another tip---get that FE line opened up down to 27 (28 on blacked).---That'sk going to help you a LOT on deep (difficult) targets.------Hey, make some of these (proper) adjustments & you may have second thoughts about challenging the BIG "E" with the little "g"!-------This last sentence oughta REALLY make me an over night hit with the Garrett crowd! --------------Del

The little "g" I like that. I have opened up the top right corner on the coin program. I had dug up the half by the time I had learned how to open up the screen. This isn't about depth only. I want it to be about getting good signals among trash as well.

Im seeing all these posts about no comparison between the two. They may very well be right, but until I see it first hand, im not convinced.

G2M

 

[D&P-OR]

Thanks for the pointers. I will most definetly be giving both those ideas a go.

G2M

No wonder you want to (think you can) challenge the Etrac with that AT Pro.-----You haven't even got the Etrac set up right for deep coins! (let alone dollars, SOME halves, or stacked quarters).-----I think I was one of the very first that discovered the need to edit out that top right (bar) line when the Etrac first came out, doing that is very important.-----Another tip---get that FE line opened up down to 27 (28 on blacked).---That'sk going to help you a LOT on deep (difficult) targets.------Hey, make some of these (proper) adjustments & you may have second thoughts about challenging the BIG "E" with the little "g"!-------This last sentence oughta REALLY make me an over night hit with the Garrett crowd! --------------Del

The little "g" I like that. I have opened up the top right corner on the coin program. I had dug up the half by the time I had learned how to open up the screen. This isn't about depth only. I want it to be about getting good signals among trash as well.

Im seeing all these posts about no comparison between the two. They may very well be right, but until I see it first hand, im not convinced.

G2M

Ya know, I'm startin to kinda like you!----You remind me of me (in some ways). ------I'm like that to, I want to see things for myself.-----Remember that old saying?--"don't believe anything you hear & only half of what you see"! ---------Well OK then----bring the "lil g" on out here to OR & I will let you embarrass me (but good) with her!-------I THOUGHT the Etrac was a good detector--but what do I know---I only started 'tectin 35 years ago. -------------Del