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2-Tone Ferrous
- Thread starter OhioCoinHunter
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E-Trac-Ohio
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I'm going to try running in 2 Tone Ferrous - I have an old farm house that I'm going to be hunting again this week that burned down in 1995.
Because of the fire there's a ton of nails and other misc. iron.
But the owner of this house was a serious coin - antique and collectible dealer - so it's sure worth hunting in all the iron !
I post a follow up in this thread once I've tried using the two tone FE.
Thanks again for all the info. ! --- Mark
Because of the fire there's a ton of nails and other misc. iron.
But the owner of this house was a serious coin - antique and collectible dealer - so it's sure worth hunting in all the iron !
I post a follow up in this thread once I've tried using the two tone FE.
Thanks again for all the info. ! --- Mark
CT Todd
Well-known member
Digger said:I do run in Ferrous tones with an open screen at many of the old farmsites I hunt. I call it my all metal mode, with ferrous tones and both ferrous and conductive TID. But I run multiple tone mode instead of the two tone mode you guys are talking about. Seems to me, if I were running two tone mode, I'd spend much of my time looking at the screen. With multiple tone mode, I am able to better ID the iron with the low Ferrous tones and sort the conductive targets "by ear", to a certain degree. Maybe I'm missing something.But what is the advantage of using only two tones instead of the multiple tones? HH Randy
There you go Digger thats what makes sense.In the old days we ran our explorers in all metal to beat the nulls and sure it makes sense to do this in a target rich area, you would go without nulls and hear everything.The Etrac version of this would be ferrous multi tone and use all the info that the machine is giving.I'm not walking around and having to look at the screen for every single high tone the heck with that Thats what I have Ears For.
....CT.....why would you want to look at the screen everytime you get a high tone in two ferrous???
That's what we're all saying.....dump the low tone, dig the high tone....whatever it reads!!!
I suggest that in multi tones you have to look at the screen more!!
In two tone ferrous.....the screen is redundant.......try it!!
Gaz.
That's what we're all saying.....dump the low tone, dig the high tone....whatever it reads!!!
I suggest that in multi tones you have to look at the screen more!!
In two tone ferrous.....the screen is redundant.......try it!!
Gaz.
Chris(SoCenWI)
Well-known member
n/t
At the sites where Ferrous works best like older sites with little modern trash like foil and can slaw.No need for multi tones as I will be digging anything except the low iron grunts and see no need to do anything that might slow down the processor in any way.With just 2 tones it can operate as fast as possible and there by signal a good item that is against a piece of iron as best it is capable.I can see using more tones in ferrous if hunting a more modern sight with lots of lower conductive trash,Ray.
CT Todd
Well-known member
Gaz,
With all respect your way isn't the only way.We don't have 1000 years of activity in our ground I don't want to dig every high target.I want all the info that I can get and then chose which targets I dig based on Tone,Size of Target and ID's .That is the purpose of the Etrac instead of a beep and dig machine.I have tried all these things its not my first year out there.I don't disagree with the concept of your program I hunt fields the same way as I did it for 10 years with Explorers of all types. I just feel it's better done my way for our 300 years of stuff in the ground.More info is a Good thing
With all respect your way isn't the only way.We don't have 1000 years of activity in our ground I don't want to dig every high target.I want all the info that I can get and then chose which targets I dig based on Tone,Size of Target and ID's .That is the purpose of the Etrac instead of a beep and dig machine.I have tried all these things its not my first year out there.I don't disagree with the concept of your program I hunt fields the same way as I did it for 10 years with Explorers of all types. I just feel it's better done my way for our 300 years of stuff in the ground.More info is a Good thing
I use multi tone in conductive mode 99% of the time and I can tell you it is not the same ball game with multi tones in ferrous.There comes a time when all the info from multi tones in ferrous is counter productive at the sites I prefer to use it at.
If I am going to dig all signals above iron what would be the point anyway.Not trying to debate a point other than to say it is best to run the way that suits each site and individual best.
That being said I would highly recommend anyone just trying out Ferrous mode would be best served by using 2 tones and selecting older sites without a lot of modern trash,Ray.
If I am going to dig all signals above iron what would be the point anyway.Not trying to debate a point other than to say it is best to run the way that suits each site and individual best.
That being said I would highly recommend anyone just trying out Ferrous mode would be best served by using 2 tones and selecting older sites without a lot of modern trash,Ray.
CrazySlasher
New member
I just went out and played 2-tone ferrous in my yard. It was good and bad. Rainy, muddy and a ton of mosquito's. I couldn't take my time and dug some pretty bad holes 
I found it a bit overwhelming since almost every sweep I was getting a thump and a beep. I managed to find a 1952 wheatie hidden under some iron, a nice old button, a buckle and a bunch of misc things. There were a couple digs that were a royal pain. The Sunray was going crazy in there and in the end I dug a bunch of super deep holes to find the tiniest of metal. I can't way to try it some more though and see what happens.
I found it a bit overwhelming since almost every sweep I was getting a thump and a beep. I managed to find a 1952 wheatie hidden under some iron, a nice old button, a buckle and a bunch of misc things. There were a couple digs that were a royal pain. The Sunray was going crazy in there and in the end I dug a bunch of super deep holes to find the tiniest of metal. I can't way to try it some more though and see what happens.
This picture shows a sample of what I dig up at old farmsites, using a two tone audio and digging all the conductive (non-ferrous) sounding targets.
[attachment 166275 non-ferroustargets.jpg]
By using multiple tones, I have more audio definition as to what the conductive target might be, even without looking at the TID. Ferrous mode still produces the same grunt on iron. And I don't spend all day digging targets that get tossed into the bucket at the end of the hunt. I still find the coins and other targets that "sound good". Simply a matter of too many sites and too little time, to be digging everything that beeps on the conductive side of the scale.
I ain't saying I'm right and someone else is wrong. And I ain't going to try and talk anyone out of doing what they're doing. We all have different abilities and hunting styles. And I know it ain't always easy to separate the tones. I just know that by letting my ears help decipher signals, and not digging every conductive target, I am able to maximize my time (and rescue my share of keepers) in the places I hunt. Like I said, too many sites and too little time. JMHO HH Randy
[attachment 166275 non-ferroustargets.jpg]
By using multiple tones, I have more audio definition as to what the conductive target might be, even without looking at the TID. Ferrous mode still produces the same grunt on iron. And I don't spend all day digging targets that get tossed into the bucket at the end of the hunt. I still find the coins and other targets that "sound good". Simply a matter of too many sites and too little time, to be digging everything that beeps on the conductive side of the scale.
I ain't saying I'm right and someone else is wrong. And I ain't going to try and talk anyone out of doing what they're doing. We all have different abilities and hunting styles. And I know it ain't always easy to separate the tones. I just know that by letting my ears help decipher signals, and not digging every conductive target, I am able to maximize my time (and rescue my share of keepers) in the places I hunt. Like I said, too many sites and too little time. JMHO HH Randy
CT Todd said:
.....hand on a minute CT!!!.........when did I say that my way was the only way???
I think if you track back through my posts, I do say that it depends on the environment you're in and simply just to give it a try.
If it's not for you then don't use it. You seem to be quite negative with your posts and I don't know why??
If you feel that you get more information from multi tones then crack on dude!! It's just not for me.....that's all.
Many people are trying this now and seem to like it. It makes no odds to me if people use this setup or not!!
It's an ETrac forum and thus, people discuss setups that other people may enjoy using.
Personally, and I say again, personally, I risk losing some good targets I suspect by trying to de-cypher a multitude of noise. The Etrac is best placed to let you know something is down there. With this setup, you get a very quick dig or no dig signal with super fast separation speed.
I agree with you, this is best placed on older sites with less junk and not parks. It's just a different approach.
Look how many people seem to be having success with it..........
Gaz.
well to me, I have always been a dig it all type guy, unless I am short on time. There are far too many items out there other than coins I am interested in finding at an old homesite, and how am I to know what they are going to ID as?
I like both conductive sounds with a coin program and ferrous sounds with an open screen, they both have their place and I am just glad I have a machine that is so versatile for different sites.
I like both conductive sounds with a coin program and ferrous sounds with an open screen, they both have their place and I am just glad I have a machine that is so versatile for different sites.
CT Todd
Well-known member
Digger said:
Exacty Digger
With two tone you get it all and thats on our old sites as well as parks.It is a great way to go but use the Etrac for what its made for More info.As for Ray's comment I agree it's not for the new or even sort of new guy There's way to much in the headphones with multi.But for those of us good with the tones its just more information.I like to hear it all.