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"You Will Be Blown Away", Minelab Tech Says. & A Count Down To SOMETHING On Minelab's Site. New Machine?!

You're right that VLF technology is limited by the laws of physics. It can't go around corners, for instance, to unmask a coin directly under trash. There is also a limit to the size of the field being generated based on the physical size of the coil and the amount of power being supplied to it. Other such limitations also exist for it in the real world, such as just how much information can be gleamed from the received signal about a target due to the nature of how a target interacts with the electrical field being generated. Some things just can't be improved on, or at least changed in any big way.

So I doubt you'll see say an increase in depth over another Minelab using the same sized coil....However, if the machine can change the nature (or frequencies) being actually transmitted into the ground then you might very well see more depth in certain severely mineralized (but rare) situations that even the current Minelabs have trouble with. Not that the new machine would get deeper by virtue of a physically deeper signal, but by it being able to penetrate a soil that the static frequencies on current Minelabs have trouble with. I still say that if it does have those abilities (see the sticky count down thread) you will only see better performance in the worst of the worst of grounds, and that in most moderate to even heavy but common mineralization the current Minelabs will do just as well.

All just mindless (but fun!) speculation, of course. :biggrin:
 
what the heck is minelab thinking, 40+ hours is not enough time to think of a excuss to tell the misses!
 
Screw the new machine. All I'm thinking about is a back up E-trac at a discounted price for a hunting buddy!!
 
pointer80 said:
what the heck is minelab thinking, 40+ hours is not enough time to think of a excuss to tell the misses!

Lmao....I always "trade" a detector for a different one.
 
I think critterhunter is going to be the first one to cave in and buy it. He has made more posts about it
than anyone else. Ya know it's driving him crazy! :)
 
Critterhunter said:
You're right that VLF technology is limited by the laws of physics. It can't go around corners, for instance, to unmask a coin directly under trash. There is also a limit to the size of the field being generated based on the physical size of the coil and the amount of power being supplied to it. Other such limitations also exist for it in the real world, such as just how much information can be gleamed from the received signal about a target due to the nature of how a target interacts with the electrical field being generated. Some things just can't be improved on, or at least changed in any big way.

So I doubt you'll see say an increase in depth over another Minelab using the same sized coil....However, if the machine can change the nature (or frequencies) being actually transmitted into the ground then you might very well see more depth in certain severely mineralized (but rare) situations that even the current Minelabs have trouble with. Not that the new machine would get deeper by virtue of a physically deeper signal, but by it being able to penetrate a soil that the static frequencies on current Minelabs have trouble with. I still say that if it does have those abilities (see the sticky count down thread) you will only see better performance in the worst of the worst of grounds, and that in most moderate to even heavy but common mineralization the current Minelabs will do just as well.

All just mindless (but fun!) speculation, of course. :biggrin:

Minelab you have to admit is pretty creative. I agree about the laws of physics but that only applies to the current technology used. If the technology changes....who knows what someone might come up with. The general basic way the a metal detector works has not changed in many years but the technology has..therefore more depth, separation, ID etc has been improved upon. Just imagine.....when we truly have artificial intelligence.....then the computer(s) can work on a problem, reinvent it and apply new technology to the problem or issue. Working at blinding speed, 24hours a day! We being humans...work arguably at a "snails pace" and some don't do that very well and we make mistakes and prone to fatigue. With a self aware computer...there is no limits to bind it....only time and limited information that undoubtedly will change as the new "realm' unfolds.

Maybe Minelab has come up with something better than Co & Fe or something to go along with that. If not, then (I agree) its probably reinvented the "wheel".....again.
 
n/t
 
i guess ill trade my se and some cash for one
 
I think the only thing that going to get blown away are some credit cards. Leaked word is that this will be $3000 or more.
 
I'm blown away by the weight! 5lbs - Did they put lead in there to make it a good water machine? :thumbdown:
 
If in fact it is five pounds that is a deal breaker for me. I just cannot swing that much anymore. Dang. I had to laugh when the little movie showed the GPS. It is a prediction that I made some time back. They need to make it lightweight but instead the add GPS or in the case of the eTrac a USB port. Nice idea but what I really do is detect with it. Make it lighter. Man I hope the five pounds is wrong (and the leaked price)!
HH - Robin (MI)
 
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