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X-Terra 70 and different frequency coils. I don't understand

It seems the many have obviously overlooked the fact that the X-Terra is not just another VLF, with the added capability of utilizing 3 different frequencies of coils. It is so much more than that. The X-Terra is based on a whole new concept in metal detectors, called VFLEX. The X-Terra utilizes state of the art digital and mixed signal components to enhance standard single frequency technology. One of the most beneficial advantages of VFLEX technology is the microprocessor in the detector housing that communicates over a data link to a microchip in each coil. Having the coil communicate over a data link, as opposed to sending electrical impulses up the coil cord, provides more dependable performance and greatly reduces the influence of outside interference.

If someone was truly interested in understanding the differences between the three frequencies of X-Terra coils, they would only have to search this forum for past posts. As many of us have proven over and over again, all three coil frequencies will detect copper, silver and gold. In my opinion, the frequency of coil I chose has as much to do with target size as it does the target's metallic composistion. My higher frequency coils are more sensitive to the smallest targets than the lower frequency coil. The lower frequency of coils hunt deeper for me. And frankly, just because one frequency performs better at detecting targets with a higher conductivity, for example, doesn't mean that it still isn't good at detecting targets with a lower conductivity. The minimal difference between 3 kHz, 7.5 kHz and 18.75 kHz probably won't matter to most detectorists. But it matters to the guy hunting gold nuggets, the guy hunting for those rings on the beach and those of us who like to hunt old homesites and were tired of digging up chunks of iron.

All metal objects, whether ferrous or non-ferrous are conductive. To understand why certain frequencies of detectors perform better than others, on specific targets, we must first understand the difference between ferrous and non-ferrous properties. The term ferrous is derived from the Latin "Ferrum" which means "containing iron". Common ferrous metals include the various irons and steels. Common non-ferrous metals include aluminum, tin, copper, zinc, and brass, an alloy of copper and zinc. Some precious metals such as silver, gold, and platinum are also non-ferrous. Silver has the highest electrical conductivity of all metals. Even higher than copper. Better electrical conduction implies more loosely-held valence electrons; more loosely-held electrons allows for better metallic conduction. (The exception to this rule is silver and copper. Although silver is a slightly better electrical conductor than copper, it is less chemically reactive. that is why the old copper coins we dig up are more deteriorated than old siver coins) Gold is often used for electrical contacts not because it is the best electrical conductor but because it is the least chemically reactive of metals. Metal oxides and sulfides (the tarnish on copper and silver) are insulators and disrupt electrical connections.

Generally speaking, VLF metal detectors operate in the 3 kHz - 30 kHz range. We have all been told that the lower the detector's frequency, the deeper it will penetrate. But we also recognize that lower frequency detectors may not be as sensitive to smaller targets. On the other hand, the higher the detector's frequency, the higher its sensitivity to even the smallest targets, but it may not penetrate as deeply. If you take a look at the marketplace, gold detectors operate at a higher frequency for locating small gold nuggets. Coin, relic and treasure hunting detectors generally operate at lower frequencies for greater depth penetration. Over the years, engineers have figured out that higher frequencies were more suited for detecting targets with lower conductivity, like gold. And likewise, lower frequency detectors were better suited for detecting higher conductive targets such as silver and copper. To give you an idea of the differences between these three metals, the electrical conductivity ratio of Silver is 63010000/ohm.m. The electrical conductivity of copper is 59610000 /ohm.m The electrical conductivity of gold is 45210000 /ohm.m. Based on this data, it is obvious that gold is less conductive (more resistant to current flow) than either silver or copper. A target that conducts electricity easily (is inductive) reacts slowly to changes in the current. A target that does not conduct electricity easily (is resistive) reacts quickly to changes in the current. For metal detecting, this means that an object with high inductance is going to have a larger phase shift, because it takes longer to alter its magnetic field. An object with high resistance is going to have a smaller phase shift. As well, the impedance of an inductor will increase proportional to the frequency being induced. So, based on this very brief description of frequency and metallic content, you can see that silver, gold and copper will all respond differently to any given detector frequency. And by changing the frequency of the detector, whether by a coil or chosing a different detector, you will alter the response produced by any given target.

I'm not going to get into a technical discussion about single frequency VLF detecors vs. BBS or FBS. Just realize that the frequency a detector operates is only one factor in determining the depth of detection or how sensitive it might be to specific targets. Other factors include mineralization, sweep speed, target response speed and coil size and design, to name a few. As well, depth and sensitivity are only two aspects some of us consider when chosing our detector. It all depends on where you hunt and what you are hunting for. And in the case of the X-Terra, VFLEX technology, being very light weight, well balanced and the option to chose any of 3 different operational frequencies, are other factors most folks consider. Providing a 7.5 kHz coil as a stock "all around" coil is the only coil that some folks will ever need. To have the option of connecting an 18.75 kHz coil for prospecting is something that no other manufacturer has done. Allowing another person to put on the 3 khz, in an effort to help "sort out the iron" from the old silver coins at an old homesite, is another. And having DD coils for those who hunt in highly mineralized soils is yet another. HH Randy
 
I tried and the best it could do was a burp and that was right at the coil, no distance..

The Explorer is very good for ID coins at better depth then other detectors but if You go nuggethunting with it you have chosen the wrong detector.

The same 6" DD coil i use for hammered coins on the 70 finds silver coins at very respectable depth too, especially coins on edge. I believe ill glue this coil to the stem so I dont get too tempted to use other coils for a while. Honestly i think it finds me more silver coins in addition to more hammered. Believe it or not.

Its a fantastic coil on a fantastic detector.
 
Hi Nugget 71

My we are a bit touchy about our x-terra aint we!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you saying I am not entiled to my opinion, just cos it differs from yours???? (reading between the lines)

As to not posting in the Explorer forum, what has that to do with anything.

I have and own a Sov GT, and an X-terra 70, with 5 coils, The GT for your info, PERFORMS like the explorer, but is operated differently ( knobs and switches)
That is why I gave MY OPINION.

If you don't like my opinion, just pass it by, and don't get personal.

Your detector is just your choice of machine, it is not about you or who you are, so why do people get so touchy, just cos you don't thing there detector is No1.

Please remember, I own one my self, and it is a very good detector, BUT like all detectors, they all have there limits.

The Sov GT or explorer, cover must applications and conditions in one detector.

When you get specific, and you narrow down what you want and what your looking for, then the X-terra with the right coil WILL do a better job at what you have set it to do, BUT at the same time, it will do a worst job at what you have NOT set it to do.

HOW COULD IT NOT??????????????

Ps, for give any spelling, I was born Dyslexic
 
Piero.

I understand your post as a legitimate question. I love my terra 70 and my Explorer and can maybe address your question a little bit differntly.

You ask " how can it not be" bad at the other targets if you choose freq towards what you want to find. Well, for me here in Europe when i use low freqs machines or coils i seem to miss alot of lower conduct targets.

If i choose a higher freq coil and it is made well i seem to find more low conductors but still as much higher conductors as with the lower freq coil.

You have to know your site, YOU just HAVE to... If its no deeper silver there you dont need the lower freqs, only the higher ones.

If you have deeper silver there you may need an Explorer or a single freq lower freq machine, but that means you will need to detect it again with a higher single freq machine ( my opinion ) for lower conductors when you are finished.

Finished?, well at the sites holding deeper silver coins there is still much to gain below Explorer depth.And still much to find after digging all the iron.

Next discussion will be between pulse detectors/ sensitivity/discrimination/ vs- VLF-FBS.

It will never end, luckily for us. There will allways be something to find for the ones who want to find it.
 
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Hi folks. First time poster/new member here.

I have just purchased an X-Terra 70 after considerable research and deliberation. I originally wanted an Excalibur 1000 for beach combing but changed my mind after talking to serious prospectors. Despite my careful research, I was unaware of the optional DD coil for the X-70 being so suitable for nugget-shooting but purchased one after asking the dealer about it when I saw it on the wall. I live near the beaches of Sydney, Australia and visit my parents regularly who live on the busy beaches further North. The X-Terra 70 seemed ideal for me on such beachcombing considering the lightweight nature and discrimination modes. But I have also been planning a trip to the Goldfields which are about 3-4 hours West of me and will be heading out there in just a few days.

Now as a photographer, people used to ask me why I didn't get a single lens on my camera - A lens that could be used for everything: Super Macro shots of insects, a mid range lens for everyday use or portraits and a Strong Telephoto lens for the subjects far from the camera. The thing is, I need a dedicated lens for each subject... and I get the very best results with the right lens for the right job. There are some lenses that do the whole range but they produce more "average" results than exceptional ones. I believe it may also be the case with detectors like the X-Terra 70 which have three different coils.

The 7.5 khz concentric coil that came standard with my X-Terra 70 detector is perfect for multipurpose detecting. It's waterproofed for the beaches, works in salt water or dry sand. It's pretty much the same as one of my all-purpose multi use single lenses on my camera (although admittedly this coil is VERY suited to the beaches)... in that the standard "all purpose" coil is important, but not ideal for areas that are highly mineralized.

Goldfields like those near me are apparently "hot": highly mineralized with plenty of iron-ore & ironstone in the soil that would cause a lot of noise to the standard coil. Probably a lot of junk too.

The purchase of the 18.75 khz DD coil should allow me to penetrate the "hot" soil and detect the objects I hope to seek out which is obviously going to be gold nuggets. The X-Terra 70 comes across as being the best detector for people like me who really want to make a dent with serious prospecting yet enjoy access to the beach where other treasures and relics might likely be found. Sure, I'd love a top-of-the-range gold detector but then I couldn't take it to the beach for relic hunting.

And.... like the person who travels on an important vacation with two lenses, if one is destroyed or damaged... or even if it should fail after traveling so far (usually at considerable time and expense), they can make do with the surviving lens so that the trip is by no means a waste of effort. That strikes me as being another advantage of having a backup coil with you that can serve you well. If one fails, you can still detect with the backup... as long as it doesn't involve placing an unsealed coil under water.
 
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