Wow ! Nice Gold !

[synthnut]

I don’t hunt sub gram gold either, but there are guys on this forum who do, and I thought that my info would interest them since it was coming from someone that I could trust with no smoke and mirrors…I had no intention in starting a detector brand war….I’ve bragged plenty on other brands sites the virtues of the Legend, and never had issues…

 

[oldkoot]

I think frequency makes a difference weather you are looking for gold rings, gold jewelry in general and sub gram gold nuggets.
They will all hit on a large gold ring but the thinner and smaller the higher the frequency the better. With that I don’t think on a sub gram the difference between 40khz and 60khz is significant but I don’t hunt sub gram gold

I will tell you what frequency you choose absolutely makes a huge difference when detecting for small gold sub gram pickers, that is why when you look at a gold detector they are usually 18.75 KHz to as high as 81 KHz, I am not saying lower frequencies will not hit sub gram gold nuggets its just a detector with a higher KHz will hit them better.

 

[vlad]

Good point. The 100 kHz are killers in iron and are better at hitting low conductors than high. I wonder how they are at hitting "salt shaker" sized gold? Bet Steve Hershbach knows.

And here is a 100 kHz Compass 77B Yukon metal detector.

 

[vlad]

I thought this was a Legend forum. Shouldn't this be in the Deus or comparison one? If I find something about the Legend I like better, should I go to the Deus forum to tell others how much better the Legend is.

Then I'm not sure why you posted it here. Why do you assume, without being sure and without any other evidence, that the Orx is better at finding gold? If higher frequency makes it better, I have a Compass Judge 2 that operates at 100khz. Does that make it better than the Orx? Does a video of someone find a small nugget prove anything except that the Orx could, in this case, find a small one?

I have a Legend and a Deus with both HF coils. I have a small nugget I got when i purchased a MD-20 detector and the Legend picks it up further away than either of my HF coils. Maybe it is because of the large amount of ferrite in my soil but gold country is usually pretty mineralized with ferrite too. Note too that the higher frequencies pick up small low conductors like tiny gold better but lower frequencies detect high conductors like larger gold better.



Go see why Steve Herschbach used an 800 instead of the Orx. He posted about on his forum and he has more experience looking for gold than LunaCruise and most of the rest of us put together. Check with Jeff McClendon too. He has had both, lives in gold country and is pretty good at finding it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Deus and the HF coils but if I go looking for gold, it will be the Legend or Gold Bug that goes with me.

Good point. The 100 kHz are killers in iron and are better at hitting low conductors than high. I wonder how they are at hitting "salt shaker" sized gold? Bet Steve Hershbach knows.
(and another good point: if the moderator were doing his job most of these posts would be gone)
Here is Monte's nail board test: (I can tell you the Impulse AQ would pass in every direction)

 

[oldkoot]

Good point. The 100 kHz are killers in iron and are better at hitting low conductors than high. I wonder how they are at hitting "salt shaker" sized gold? Bet Steve Hershbach knows.
(and another good point: if the moderator were doing his job most of these posts would be gone)
Here is Monte's nail board test: (I can tell you the Impulse AQ would pass in every direction)

I have not read anything on this thread that deserved to be thrown out, not sure what you are talking about there

 

[vlad]

I have not read anything on this thread that deserved to be thrown out, not sure what you are talking about there

A Forum on a detector is to be on THAT DETECTOR ONLY and comparisons are not allowed there: companies pay for the forums. There are specific forums where comparisons are done. And Sales and suggestions of them any place except classified is not allowed and mentioning other sites for sales is not allowed under penalty of being banned. Dealers also pay to be registered on here. There only thing free is people being members and posting, and I assure you that is revoked all the time.

 

[vlad]

And here is a 100 kHz Compass 77B Yukon metal detector.

Do not mistake this for a TR discriminator, it is not. It is an IB-TR with a metal and mineral side and a large piece of iron will be detected. By 1977 I could mot give these away, but they are still useful.
At one time Garrett carried Gold Mountain in his catalogue and they had one too. (Charles could not sell his BFOs and they were taking up needed space at the factory so he loaded them in a tractor trailer
and hauled them to the city dump. When I found out I could have cried.)

 

[BobOso]

I thought this was a Legend forum. Shouldn't this be in the Deus or comparison one? If I find something about the Legend I like better, should I go to the Deus forum to tell others how much better the Legend is.

Then I'm not sure why you posted it here. Why do you assume, without being sure and without any other evidence, that the Orx is better at finding gold? If higher frequency makes it better, I have a Compass Judge 2 that operates at 100khz. Does that make it better than the Orx? Does a video of someone find a small nugget prove anything except that the Orx could, in this case, find a small one?

I have a Legend and a Deus with both HF coils. I have a small nugget I got when i purchased a MD-20 detector and the Legend picks it up further away than either of my HF coils. Maybe it is because of the large amount of ferrite in my soil but gold country is usually pretty mineralized with ferrite too. Note too that the higher frequencies pick up small low conductors like tiny gold better but lower frequencies detect high conductors like larger gold better.



Go see why Steve Herschbach used an 800 instead of the Orx. He posted about on his forum and he has more experience looking for gold than LunaCruise and most of the rest of us put together. Check with Jeff McClendon too. He has had both, lives in gold country and is pretty good at finding it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Deus and the HF coils but if I go looking for gold, it will be the Legend or Gold Bug that goes with me.

I think most gold machines are close to equal as long as they can reach 40+khz. I sold my ORX which would reach 81khz and bought a Deus which had more features. I've had the Whites,Gold bug, GM1000, as well as the Eq800, now have a Legend. The ORX and 800 are the ones I've done the best with. Here is some gold found with the ORX, many sub gram

 

[BobOso]

I will say he has some easy walking and swinging areas, try some of this.

 

[Odanscoils]

Do not mistake this for a TR discriminator, it is not. It is an IB-TR with a metal and mineral side and a large piece of iron will be detected. By 1977 I could mot give these away, but they are still useful.
At one time Garrett carried Gold Mountain in his catalogue and they had one too. (Charles could not sell his BFOs and they were taking up needed space at the factory so he loaded them in a tractor trailer
and hauled them to the city dump. When I found out I could have cried.)

Can I ask you what kind of discrimination the Garrett Master Hunter series used ?
Specifically the CX3.
I still enjoy that machine.
When it locks on. Not bouncing around.
It's almost always what it says it is.

 

[vlad]

Can I ask you what kind of discrimination the Garrett Master Hunter series used ?
Specifically the CX3.
I still enjoy that machine.
When it locks on. Not bouncing around.
It's almost always what it says it is.

It was a digital single sweep notchable that I believe was a 2 filter and would identify in a non motion mode too. Personally of all Garrett's units I like the Gti the most: the imaging will save you some diffing and you can leave it on all the time and not have to hit a button to bring it up. And the All metal non motion is a cannon. Having the "last mode" button gives it a 1265X feel too. It images by using a second receive winding. (I did not find it too heavy but I spent the '70's swinging a Deepseeker of some kind.)

 

[Odanscoils]

It was a digital single sweep notchable that I believe was a 2 filter and would identify in a non motion mode too. Personally of all Garrett's units I like the Gti the most: the imaging will save you some diffing and you can leave it on all the time and not have to hit a button to bring it up. And the All metal non motion is a cannon. Having the "last mode" button gives it a 1265X feel too. It images by using a second receive winding. (I did not find it too heavy but I spent the '70's swinging a Deepseeker of some kind.)

Thanks for the reply Vlad.
I do enjoy those old Garrett's.

 

[synthnut]

Looks like I’m not the only one mentioning other brand detectors !! ….(but you didn’t hear that from me)..…..Seriously…..It’s all good !!