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Wife just helped gent out at gas station

I didn't see anything in the post concerning the man's age as old or young. Yes, those silver dollars were worth more than a dollar, but he could not buy gas with them and needed the gas worse than he needed the coins. I don't know where Fenian13 lives, but in my area there are not coin buyers and shops in the small towns around here. What something is worth and what you can get for it when you need it at the time are two different things. That's why there are pawn shops all over the place. Maybe he or his wife inherited them and did not know their true value, but when you need something desperately as he seemed to need the gas and there are no coin shops around and you can't wait on EBay, you take a loss on the value to get what you need in the present time. The same with the Eisenhower coins, yes his wife knew to protect them from scratching, but the seller wanted to sell them and I don't know anybody who asks you to buy something and expects you to say, hey, I'll give you ten times what you're asking for those coins or tools or whatever. Buying and selling is very simple, a person tells you what they have for sale and what they want for it. If you want it, you pay them what they ask for it, if you don't you decline the offer. That's not being deceitful or dishonest. As long as you do not suspect the item is stolen and the person selling it is not suffering from the influence of alcohol or drugs and is not some elderly person with dementia, this was a simple business transaction. the person who owned the coins said what he wanted for the coins and the man's wife paid him what he wanted for the coins. End of conversation. Nobody did anything wrong, nobody got cheated. Hard times cause people to do desperate things to survive and that's called life and that's all there is to it. If you go to a yard sale and there are some silver rings or silverware with the pure silver trademark for a few dollars, do you speak up and say: hey, I want to pay you more than you are asking for this stuff. The old saying: Buyer Beware applies to the seller, also. It's their responsibility to research the items they are selling and ask an appropriate price for them. It's like the person who bought a painting for 3 or 4 dollars just to get the frame for another painting he had at home and when he took out the old picture found an original copy of the declaration of independence or some historic document that was worth 2 million dollars. Would you have taken this picture back to the flea market and said hey, I paid 3 or 4 dollars for this and found this important document and I'm bringing it back to you and you get the money for it, even if you are not the original owner and you take the money. Yes, I can understand why Fenian13 might have doubts about this sale, but unless evidence to the contrary is provided, he sounds like he's suffering from petty jealousy and needs to get off his pedestal.
 
Hey Fongu,

You described it pretty much the way I saw it. Not sure what set the other gent off but I'm giving him the benefit of
doubt. I've not seen any agitators on this site as yet so assume he was not trying to stir up an argument. LOL.
But I'll be the first to say, metal detecting, more than any other hobby I can think of, depends on the losses of others.
If no one lost the money, we wouldn't be finding it. The better the find, the greater the loss for someone. It's just the
nature of the beast. Every time someone gets a great deal, someone else probably got the short end of the stick.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Warm regards, Jim
 
Here goes my 2 cents!

I guess in reality it all boils down to how comfortable you are with the transaction. If it felt like finding a diamond ring and learning later who lost it but not returning it then it would be wrong. However if the person was offering it for sale at a price you are willing to pay, sadly you are correct in both the buyer AND seller being aware. Now if the person were young or obviously had no clue to the value I may feel a little guilty in taking them for cheap...but how do you know that there isn't a real reason for them going so cheap? Think about it....diamonds are more abundant than emeralds yet we charge more for them...why? It's all what a person values an object and I am glad your wife knows when to save items for you! (Can you train mine!?) lol. But in all seriousness if your wife was thinking, oooh, these are worth lots and this guy has no clue that would be wrong. More than likely she was thinking, I bet my Husband would like these, not sure what they are worth, but for a buck a piece I will get them. SO to me it wasn't unfair. It's a good deal and congrats on your finds!!! You need to send her out with a detector next! LOL!
 
When I was in first grade I got a 1909 lincoln penny in my lunch money. My teacher "kindly" gave me a dollar for it. I labeled the man as old because he was called a "gent", a term of respect used for the elderly. I call 'em as I see 'em. Justify It any way you want. Do unto others...Would you do that to your own family member?
 
Judge me if you wish, just as I have judged others. Not jealous or on a pedestal. There were several other options to solve the problem. Boasting about the least honorable option is what tripped my trigger. Stories like that one should be kept to ones self. Postings like that are sure to raise eyebrows.
 
Hi Finean13,

As I said before, you are certainly entitled to your opinions and I support that. However,
I remain unphased by your comments. If the man had been hungry, I'd have been the
first to buy him a sandwich and a cuppa joe. My wife had no idea what the coins were
other than the fact it stated they were $1.00 on the coins. With a recent date, I would
have assumed the $1.00 to be fairly accurate. I did not know the value until I looked it up
on Ebay after the fact. The initial instincts were in fact helping the gent out of a bind as
well as getting some coins we didn't have. Then after seeing what we had aquired, I was tickled to end
up on the good side for a change. That it offends you is regretable, but will not change
my thoughts on the matter. I will not however insult you, your wife, or anyone else as
regards this matter. I would thank you to do the same. Have a great weekend and HH!
Warm regards, Jim
 
I'll qoute the man. He said his wife came in you are so into coins since you got the detector, I'm giving you some SILVER DOLLARS for fathers day" still want to stick with the she had no idea line?. Look at the facts. He said she would bring him change home from work. You think he didn't say "gee honey, if you ever see some of these... or those...and this is what silver looks like in case you get any of that....not that many people especially a woman, needs to be shown what gold or silver is after 45 years of marriage. How do I know it was an old man. Well first she didn't describe him as "some kid" (meaning younger) or "some guy" (approximate same age, give or take) she called him "a gent," a term reserved for the elderly. Given the fact that they have been married for 45 years her age as well as the "gents" remain unknown. I have yet to hear him say that the "gent" was not indeed an old man. He talks about almost selling a walker half. Being so into coins you really think he never showed her any. You think she never saw silver coins back when they were in circulation. Silver went out in '64. that's 46 years ago. Unless he married her when she was one, she remembers silver, who forgets it. Do people forget what gold looks like too? He just said she had no idea what they were other than they said "one dollar" Well, she came in saying she had "silver dollars" remember? I guess she knew she scored some silver then. I guess she knew more than only the fact that they said "one dollar" then. You all still think she believed she was trading "dollar for dollar"? an even swap? a fair tade? As far as was written FONGU, where does he say the gent "put these up for sale". This ain't ebay or a garage sale.
 
Well Mr. Finian,

I think I went out of my way trying to be cordial to you and to explain a few things, to no avail.
Perhaps if you keep in mind that the Gent approached my wife to see if she could help him out
by buying the coins. The ones she didn't purchase, others did. You continually keep trying to
read something disgusting into our actions, have been insulting in your comments, and are
pretty much acting like a troll. Please feel free to ignore my postings in the future as I have
every intention of doing the same to yours. There are a lot of folks on here worth listening to,
but you ain't one of them. Regards, Jim
 
Some people will argue with a sign post, I'm not one of those people, however. Hope you get to feeling better and get that extra large chip off your shoulder, Fenian. Best of luck to you and your family. You can beat a dead horse, but you can't make him win any races. I will not post on this topic or post again. I don't want this forum to end up like some of the others with a lot of sniping and derogatory remarks to one another. Pray that you had a nice fathers day.
 
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