woodchiphustler
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Both have the magic notch!
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Why would I pay more for a nice Golden then I would for a Cortes! Convince me!
- Thread starter woodchiphustler
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I would have neither in my collection either,although i do have a few Tesoro or Tesoro based machines i only use 2 of them and those are the UK version of the Vaquero which is basically on steroids called the Trident 11 Extreme and the good old reliable Laser B1 with the 10.5'' coil and based on the Bandido,,but these are mainly used on specific site situations because of the great discrimination,on some of my roman/saxon sites the trash can be a nightmare but when the Vaquero has the small 5.75'' Concentric coil its deadly and plucks targets out from between the trash.
Tesoro or the Laser UK branded machines just are not used anymore here,only the old diehards still use a few of the older models,but as a general every day use machines,i could go weeks without seeing another Tesoro,but you will see 1000s of Deus machines.Times keep changing in the detecting arena and if you dont produce what the users want then you rapidly become a 'has been',companies cannot rest on the old laurels of years gone by and why anyone would pay a 'premium' for a 'Golden' is certainly beyond me.
Tesoro or the Laser UK branded machines just are not used anymore here,only the old diehards still use a few of the older models,but as a general every day use machines,i could go weeks without seeing another Tesoro,but you will see 1000s of Deus machines.Times keep changing in the detecting arena and if you dont produce what the users want then you rapidly become a 'has been',companies cannot rest on the old laurels of years gone by and why anyone would pay a 'premium' for a 'Golden' is certainly beyond me.
Neither have GB in disc mode. If something goes wrong with the Golden and it involves the part they can no longer obtain-oh well. If I just had to have a Tesoro ID machine, I'd go for the Deleon. Now you can understand why some are discouraged as far as features some feel they must have. I have read many good things about the Deleon. The Tejon with the dual disc settings can be adjusted to mimic the notch feature, but would involve using the toggle switch each target. It is the only Tesoro I would dearly love to have. Is there really a Santa Claus?
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
I have used both the Golden and the Cortes rather extensively. The Golden has 4 tone id with movable notch, the Cortes is a single tone TID unit with fixed notches, histograph, TID number, TID averaging with tone id, and depth read out, and lastly, non-motion all metal with TID readout, however the non-motion isn't really non-motion as it suffers from an overshoot null issue that in turn makes it a motion all metal discriminator.
If you don't mind hunting with a single tone unit, the Cortes is nice. It likes an air gap, it gives a very stable TID when the sum mode is used. Its a nice unit.
The Golden is a beep dig tone id unit, that excells in areas where there are a lot of steel bottle caps, the adjustable notch is nice for dialing in lower conductive tone range. The standard model tones are too close together so you have to do a lot of notch switch flipping to figure out mid range tab and zinc targets but its do able.
Over all the Cortes is a better unit. My only issue with the Cortes has been the fact that I perfer tone id over single tone units.
Looking at that one in the Classified has been torture for me.
HH
MIke
If you don't mind hunting with a single tone unit, the Cortes is nice. It likes an air gap, it gives a very stable TID when the sum mode is used. Its a nice unit.
The Golden is a beep dig tone id unit, that excells in areas where there are a lot of steel bottle caps, the adjustable notch is nice for dialing in lower conductive tone range. The standard model tones are too close together so you have to do a lot of notch switch flipping to figure out mid range tab and zinc targets but its do able.
Over all the Cortes is a better unit. My only issue with the Cortes has been the fact that I perfer tone id over single tone units.
Looking at that one in the Classified has been torture for me.
HH
MIke
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Del,
The Cortes TID layout is really good. Iron is 0, high conductors are 95. ( the histograph is used to id high conductors) That means the entire range of the 94 remaining TID numbers have been assigned to low and middle range conductors. Its like using a DFX or a V3 in the high frequency non-normalized modes. The Sum mode lets you get a positive stable TID number. I like the Cortes quite a bit, like I stated earlier, my only beef with it is the lack of tone id in the normal search mode.
It is designed without a ground balance in Disc mode to guaranttee TID stability. As a TID unit goes, its one of the best for its class. The brown round or a 7" concentric = :thumbs up:
HH
Mike
The Cortes TID layout is really good. Iron is 0, high conductors are 95. ( the histograph is used to id high conductors) That means the entire range of the 94 remaining TID numbers have been assigned to low and middle range conductors. Its like using a DFX or a V3 in the high frequency non-normalized modes. The Sum mode lets you get a positive stable TID number. I like the Cortes quite a bit, like I stated earlier, my only beef with it is the lack of tone id in the normal search mode.
It is designed without a ground balance in Disc mode to guaranttee TID stability. As a TID unit goes, its one of the best for its class. The brown round or a 7" concentric = :thumbs up:
HH
Mike
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Slingshot, the old tone golden isn't that great. You would most likely find the two middle tones to close together in pitch and wind up only using it for a high tone clad detector or in chips as a dig it all unit. Iron and foil both share the low iron tone so you can't even listen to foil without using a lot of Disc. And using a lot of Disc on the Golden cuts depth back a lot. I mean a lot, up to 2" or more.
The new tone Golden allowed you to hunt with NO disc. The new tone Golden allowed you to keep iron as a low tone, and foil and up the new middle high tone.
The new tone Golden is the good one but they only made a few and those are the hard ones to get. I wouldn't pay the asking price for the old tone units and I have to be flush with cash to even want to buy a new tone unit.
HH
Mike
The new tone Golden allowed you to hunt with NO disc. The new tone Golden allowed you to keep iron as a low tone, and foil and up the new middle high tone.
The new tone Golden is the good one but they only made a few and those are the hard ones to get. I wouldn't pay the asking price for the old tone units and I have to be flush with cash to even want to buy a new tone unit.
HH
Mike
woodchiphustler
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Staffordshire Metal Detectors all day long. Kev is a good fellow.
Mike Hillis said:
My Old tones Golden can hunt with no discrimination and small foil will be the second lowest tone. You just have to turn up the Notch width dial just a little.
Doing so will not bring nails up in tones even with the notch dial at full width.
Even my wife's smallest thin gold rings will be higher tones than nails with no discrimination.
I was recently told by someone at Tesoro that the new tones model just moved nickels out of conductivity order to a higher tone compared to the old tone model.
Otherwise the same detector.
Bryan
Mike Hillis
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You think that was fustrating, you should have experienced talking with them on the phone about it. 
HH
Mike
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Mike
As to the OP's question, I haven't a clue. Been there done that. There's only a few dozen detectors that will out perform the Golden just about everywhere. I guess there's lots of folks with more money than sense and a lot more that don't have much experience and fall for the hype. Heck, there's only a handful of folks hyping them up.
BarberBill
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I have both the DeLeon and the Cortes. Have no interest in the Golden as I know it compares depth wise to most of the other, earlier 5pin umax machines none of which, in my experience, give the depth the C and D will.
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