Why should I....

[DELTA196]

...buy a V3,

The website www.vision.com hasn't even been updated with the new name and the last post was in April
UK Feedback is virtually non existant (UK Forums) apart from about 6 people
No videos have been posted on you tube
Dealers are politley avoiding it
The manual is vague and doesn't explain settings
The price has dropped yet again in the UK

Overall I think this is a flop, didn't wan't to say it as I have used Whites for 10 years. This was so say 9 years in development as Mark Rowan started it after DFX was launched, it's not that much different really is it.

Just look at what XP have achieved and they have been going only 10 years or so, there are more posts on the net about their new detector in two days than the V3 posts since March and this detector isn't even available yet.

Sorry Whites but you have lost your way and may be losing a customer. Come on pull yer socks up.

 

[robertk]

...buy a V3,

The website www.vision.com hasn't even been updated with the new name and the last post was in April

You do realize that www.vision.com is for a consulting group, and has nothing to do with metal detectors, right?

UK Feedback is virtually non existant (UK Forums) apart from about 6 people
No videos have been posted on you tube

There were 20+ videos on YouTube last I looked, most of them from the DVD.

Dealers are politley avoiding it

I had no trouble at all getting one from my local dealer, and he has sold more than one. (Admittedly, I am not in the UK, so maybe it's different there.)

The manual is vague and doesn't explain settings

I'm new to this type of detector and the manual has been good enough for me. These forums have also been a big help.

The price has dropped yet again in the UK

And this is a bad thing?

Overall I think this is a flop,

I am more than happy with mine. I thought long and hard whether to go with Whites or Minelab -- I had no experience or brand loyalty to push me one way or the other. The V3 won out, and I've not regretted that decision yet. I've found things that amazed me already (an old penny with clear VDI, solid ID, and good tone over a foot deep, for example), and I expect it to only get better.

 

[hang7575]

Nobody said you should. But I like mine

 

[DELTA196]

hang,
That doesn't help much.

 

[Neil in West Jersey]

but the novices are more likely to select a program, and the experts can read between the lines, and will learn by experience.

 

[robertk]

Sorry meant www.whitesvision.com.

Ah. That's Jimmy Sierra's site. He might be a little busy with other things at the moment (bigfoot coil, maybe?).

Excluding Whites made videos.

I can't speak for other users, but I'm not likely to ever post a video on YouTube about the V3 or any other detector. I'd rather be digging.

Price drop so soon although good for consumer usually means desperation to boost flagging sales.

At least around here, most everything is getting price cuts these days. The bad economy has hurt everybody, and prices are being cut all over the place to boost sales. Even if that is Whites' motivation, I don't see it as a failure. If they've been working on this machine for years, I'm sure they didn't foresee the economy taking a dive right before they released it. (None of the economic pundits saw it coming either.)

You say it amazes you but what exactly does it do better/different than DFX?

I've never used a DFX so I can't say. But I'm amazed at anything giving me that solid of a signal on something that small at that depth. Some of my other finds have been small bullets six inches deep, a tiny fragment of a ring four inches deep (about half the size of a grain of rice -- took me forever to find it even when I had it in my hand, but the V3 saw it clearly), and a penny standing on edge 8 inches deep. I don't doubt many other detectors could have hit these targets, but for me, the fact that it not only hit them, but gave a good solid hit with great tone and good target ID, where there was no question even to a novice like me that this is something I should DIG -- that is what amazes me.

Incidentally, the "Is the V3 just a glorified DFX" question has been asked before.

 

[andreak77]

First...www.whitevision.com is not monitored/controlled by White's Electronics, it is controlled by a White's Distributor in California.

This is not a "suped-up" DFX.

3 frequencies - you can pick one for specific types of hunting or use all three.

The 3x3 target ID system is spectacular - ID'ng the target doesn't get any better than this with search mode, analyze and pinpoint - with each giving an indication of target's metal id.

The Live Controls - Making minor adjustments and changes on the fly with no need to enter a menu - it doesn't get any easier or better than this. They can be selected, rearranged and changed in their appearance (Expert Menu)

Wireless Capability - no more cords, or you wear a corded headset while your friend/son/daughter uses the wireless at the same time. You can also share/transfer your custom program to another V3.

Color Screen - Not only looks great but the different colors help identify the type of metal - and you can change each frequencies color (using a custom program combined with expert to create custom color mixing for each program/frequency).

Uses the same coils as the DFX, MXT and M6.

Zoom/View - for those who may not see to well - they can enlarge the screen and it's text or provide more detailed menu - instantly on the fly or making changes to one or all the programs.

Illuminated controls - allows you to see the control buttons for those early evening hunts.

I could go on if you'd like.......There are just so many features of the V3.....features that our customers wanted in a detector.

In fact, our V3 sales have doubled this month.

But we are all entitled to our own opinion.....to each his own.

HH - Andrea

 

[njgreg]

...buy a V3,

The website www.vision.com hasn't even been updated with the new name and the last post was in April
UK Feedback is virtually non existant (UK Forums) apart from about 6 people
No videos have been posted on you tube
Dealers are politley avoiding it
The manual is vague and doesn't explain settings
The price has dropped yet again in the UK

Overall I think this is a flop, didn't wan't to say it as I have used Whites for 10 years. This was so say 9 years in development as Mark Rowan started it after DFX was launched, it's not that much different really is it.

Just look at what XP have achieved and they have been going only 10 years or so, there are more posts on the net about their new detector in two days than the V3 posts since March and this detector isn't even available yet.

Sorry Whites but you have lost your way and may be losing a customer. Come on pull yer socks up.

May I suggest you do your shopping at radio shack.

 

[Larry (IL)]

I don't know why you should. You seem to have made up your mind and it's your money to spend as you please. It's not our job to convince you otherwise. But if you do, we are here to help. It seems the guys from the UK are having a field day with the V on this forum and trying and learning something new all the time.

 

[chasia]

I haven't updated my detector in several years and I'm seriously considering the V3. In years gone by I purchased metal detectors by word of mouth,you know, a friends friend and etc. Had some good machines and had some not so good. Now comes the Internet and forums, by the way, these forums are the sales room of any detector company. Anyway, I need your pros and I need your cons to make a decision in what detector I want to purchase.

My old body has a lot of miles on it. After a couple of hours it starts hurting. I don't need 12 inches of depth on a coin. I need a machine that can consistently ID at 7 to 10 inches. Is it out there? Keep the pros coming and just as importantly keep the cons coming.

Thank you

 

[CROCK of COINS]

Talk about PRICE DROP...Go look: Metal Detector Classified Forum
Pick up the F75. LOL

Just look at what XP have achieved

I did not see a price? But yes, take off the headphones -make adjustment-put H-P back on Now just were did that REMOTE fall off at? LOL

Jerry

 

[Rob (IL)]

I can always use good information, but I never thought to ask anyone on a forum what I should do.

"Overall I think this is a flop, didn't want to say it as I have used Whites for 10 years."
If you didn't want to say it then you shouldn't have, especially on a Whites site. I don't think you should buy one. Rob

It's time to close this one so we can get back to helping each other.

 

[TheMarshall]

Del.....I respect your opinion, for it your personal take on the matter, but let me tell you very emphatically...

Technically, the White's Spectra, is one of........if not the finest...... detector on the market, and I will not accept any contradiction of that fact from amateurs who cannot think deeper than the silly old depth scenario. The fact that you imply it does not differ from its derivative the DFX, demonstrates that you lack an appreciative reasoning ability.

I do critically say though, that Whites have failed to 'dress' their latest beauty in a way that befits its classy 21 century functionality.

Therefore I do agree with you about the comparison between Alain Loubez's DEUS and the V3's old-hat styling.

It will be interesting to see how our American friends in the detecting fraternity receive the new French unit.

It has 4 discrete frequencies. weights around 900 grams, wireless phones, control pad, and collapses down to a the size of a litter-picker.

"Oo-la-la !!!!!..........Regardez...C'est manifique...............TheMarshall

 

[Larry (IL)]

To the best of my knowledge, the Deus does not have an American market, no distributors over here and I haven't heard of anyone planning to do so. Please everyone, no bashing is allowed of the Deus or any other detector on Findmall, Especially the V.

I'm turning the reins over to ADMIN for the next 5 days while I spend a little one on one time with my V3.

 

[nw1886]

Best and funnest machine I've ever owned.

 

[RacerX]

A flop?

You know, I'm really getting tired of reading posts bashing the V3 from people who don't take the time to learn the machine. Now we gotta read one from someone who's never owned one and probably never even used one. It seems some people expected the V3 to be an easy button - pull it out of the box and start digging 12" signals and cleaning up all that long lost barber and seated liberty left behind by inferior machines. These same people couldn't find a deep coin no matter what machine you put in their hand. There is no easy button.

I'll say it again. The V is not aimed at beginner or even a novice. IMO it's aimed at the detectorist who wants more. Sure, it works fine out of the box and will run deeper than most but the real market for this machine and where it will shine will be in the hands of people willing to take the time to learn some basics of how a detector works and what makes it work better (or worse) in a given area.

I came to the V having only ever owned XLT's. Out of the box this machine blew my XLT away in every category (and I consider the XLT under rated and whites finest before the V). With some tweaks I have little doubt it will run with anything on the market. I did have to pour in some time to understand it much more than my XLT and ride the coat tails of others when it came to programming, but you know what?....in the end I'll be a better detectorist for it. V3 or not.

And anybody who can't see/understand the difference between the DFX and the V other than basic configuration probably shouldn't own it.

 

[deathwind1]

Because when there is a lot out there, then most everything down to a foot will be gone---Besides all to are do is trying to raise H and D and trying to get every one to beg you to buy one---Dont buy a V-3 as a Bounty Hunter is more your speed---Maybe you could not even learn that !

 

[DELTA196]

Please guys I am not bashing the V3 or trying to encourage it. All I am saying is it appears to me there is not much info/feedback. All I am trying to understand is what will it offer me over and above my DFX.

 

[cloudbuster]

Delta...how can you possibly say there is no feedback on the V. Thats all we talk about here !!!! If you take the time and trouble to read the posts here you will see there is info on a biblical scale for those who want to read it !!! I to came from XLT to V and the V is IMHO the best allround detector available to date. I also use a gold maxx from time to time and the V can be tuned to do what that does with no problem with info available in colour as well. The V has the most flexible platform and best interface you are ever likely to want. I have owned a Minelab explorer and hated the level of complication to carry out the simplest of tasks. The XLT has its irritations but all have been addressed by the V's Windows like interface. Sure the Deus will sell in spades here in the uk and from expierience of XP machines i am sure it will be very good indeed but this is not grounds to slate the opposition. Unless you have tested both over an extended period i cannot see how you can give an opinion. For what its worth when the Deus becomes available here i will get my hands on one and i will post my findings !!!

all the best rob

 

[DELTA196]

Rob,
I mean feedback from UK, all the feedback on here although very good is all for the American way of doing things. UK Searching is much different and requires different settings.
V3 Is a lot of money for me and I just need to be sure it will deliver more than my DFX.