Who Says Minelabs Aren't Sensitive To Tiny Stuff?

[Critterhunter]

Again, thanks for the support. As I said before, it's easy to forget how bad this economy is for some people when you are the one with the job. I take his remarks as somebody who loves his Explorer or Etrac and will defend it to the last. That's fine, but remember that there are pros and cons of every machine on the market. I just try to point out that there are cons as well as pros to any machine out there. As good as the Etrac or Explorer is, there are machines that can keep up just as well, and as said those machines have negative as well as positive points that should be considered when deciding a purchase.

My "problem" is with people who let egos get in the way of facts when it comes to sorting out the facts. As good as the Etrac is, for instance, that doesn't mean that it doesn't have some drawbacks that other machines don't have. Everybody should weigh those facts and decide which machine has more merit for them. There is no reason to let this data get in the way and start attacking people because of it. Let the facts lie where they may.

Again, thanks for the support.

 

[Neil]

Neil. I respect you and your feedback big-time. However, I'm not happy to see things get personal in this forum. Critterhunter is a very prolific poster here as you know and I for one enjoy and embrace the information he posts. Do you really feel you did the right thing by bashing him the way you did? I have found these forums to be 99% incredible. When something like this happens I cant stand down. I'm not looking for trouble. I just wish you would reconsider your words toward Critterhunter. Peace. HH. Matt

Hey Matt,

theres a long history here you dont know about here. I do wish the forums were 99% credible but I dont. Im really not looking for trouble myself, look on my posts and critter is really the only person Ive had problems with over a lot of time. I dont find him to be credible at all, I think he puts up a false front and does not speak from experience but rather rides others posts as his own. thats how I see it.

 

[Neil]

Critter does get old sometimes with post after post about the same thing and trying to make those that use and know our detectors well as he knows more than we do and spend all day trying to find others that agree with him like the debate on how much better the Sovereign is over the Explorer or E-Trac as this has to do more with how much you use and understand the detector you use. I love my Sovereign and do well with it, but if I go with one of the guys that knows their Explorer or E-Trac as well as i know my Sovereign they will get deeper coins and can separate targets better too. Now If I hunt with some that use the Explorers or E-Tracs I can out do them easy with the Sovereign only because i know my Sovereign from experience, not from reading others post or doing air test and test gardens.
Pay attention to those of us that have the Experience with the Sovereign or any detector that the person knows well and watch out for those that don't use a certain detector and tries to bash it as they don't have the patience to learn it. A few of them you pay close attention too is Neil and Ray plus a few more as I know they have the actual experience of using a Sovereign and knows it well. We used to have another one we don't see anymore and that was Art from Ohio I believe as he was trying to explain the Sovereign and answer questions and was shot down by some that didn't have the experience and thought they were experts.
I don't think we need to bash anyone here as we have a great forum and don't need a moderator like some do, but sometime we just have post what we feel about a certain subject and hope we can discuss it without getting too personal.

Rick I should not have bashed critter as hard as I did. I think you know my frustration on trying to keep things honest and real here and critter, while he sometimes does, often does not and this ends up misleading a lot of guys and he has indeed chased a few guys away. I can still remember him going at it with Crazyman and several others when he hasnt go a clue to what he is saying because he only seems to read and rewrite in his own words versus putting the time in. You mentioned Art, what a shame he doesnt venture here anymore.

 

[Neil]

You be surprise as how many claim to find real deep targets, but they are those that fall in the hole and why those that use a Sun Ray probe I believe more as they know how deep the target is when they use it. Also actual in the Field finds are more accurate as it is what we expedience our self and not what we read or do test with. I think Critter needs to find a job soon as he spends too much time on the Internet and doing test and not actually out getting experience with the Sovereign.

Rick

Speaking of work, I just benefited from receiving a bunch of days off due to a shift change, and have been able to catch up on reading the forums. Critter has been posting like crazy all over, I guess thats what oodles of free time does to some. Ive got a lazy nephew who is out of work, says he is looking for a certain job, will only work what he wants. I just dont think like that, been working since a teenager and havent stopped. I am looking forward to retirement, but thats a good 10yrs off unless I opt out at 62......but medical is so expensive so I will see what happens. Until then Im back to picking up side jobs along with my regular job

Neil,i think you're comments are a bit out of order.....i do not think CH has a lot of free time by choice but by circumstances beyond his control.What would you have him do while he has no work.....sit in front of the t.v all day doing jack s..t???A lot of the posts on this forum are started by him and provide us with an outlet for debate whether we agree with his comments or not.....i'd like to see him out detecting more again but while he has no work he can post as many times as he wants as far as i'm concerned...i've learned many things about my GT as a direct result of his info.It's good that you have always worked Neil but don't look down your nose at those who have none.....it does not mean that they are all lazy.I speak from personal experience which is why i think your comments are rarther insulting.......perhaps you can offer CH a full time job polishing your ego.

I dont look down at people not working, its the not trying that I dont respect. you would have to know the history of critters not working and the suggestions we all gave him months ago, none of which he has done. Two of my best friends are out of work right now(full time jobs I mean), doing whatever they can to keep their lives afloat. They are trying and Ive never looked down at them. Circumstances beyond his control? Two other friends of mine moved to stay working with the companies they were with, one to Texas and one to PA. When I was plumbing we used to follow the jobsites sometimes in excess of 2 hours drive one way, to keep working. Could have drawn unemployment and waited for something closer but didnt. Nope, I believe if you can work you should, unless your retired that is. Im not apologizing for how I feel about that, just explaining it. there is a difference and it isnt about ego at all, your wrong there.
and his info that has helped you was most likely from someone elses experience, but critter wont tell you that.

 

[Rick(ND)]

I agree with you and sure others do too that have actually used the Sovereign and got the experience and spent the time in the Field using the Sovereign feel as we do about Critter. The problem is most of those that had some great experience and great finds that were posted have moved on to the Explorers or E-Tracs and only a few of us diehards that have put in the time out using the Sovereign and learning this detector here trying to help those that want to learn this detector, then having some one with not much experience in the field with the Sovereign trying to give advice on the Sovereign and hope it is not turning people away that want to learn it.

Critter if you are reading this see how you post under the person you are talking to and not on the top of the tread as we don't know who you are talking to. I hope you will be able to get a job soon too as it is no fun being unemployed, you might just have to do other work instead of the field you trained in until one opens up. I had to when I got my 2 year schooling as a Electronic serving and couldn't find a job in that field, so I took what ever I could do and wound up the owner of a small time bar and cafe in order to support my family. My son went for a 3 year industial electronic and after the first month he took a job doing auto detailing and now he is a fabricator for the last 6 years at another company being he couldn't find a job in the field he trained in.

 

[Critterhunter]

Shouldn't have brought up egos. A little too personal. Not my style. I was a bit drunk when I posted that, so I apologize for doing so. Got to watch that drunk posting.