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Whites Beach Hunter ID
- Thread starter scrooge
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Wet and Dry
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I have one. I need to know where you are located? If it's heavy black sand it could give you some problems. But there are ways to make it work!
Bought a BHID300 in Jan 09 and used it first in Galveston during the Feb. 09 minus tides. Spent most of my time on the wet sand at the minus tide low water edge. Found the BHID300 to be a fun machine in addition to deep seeking. At first I used my beach scoop for recovery but many of the targets were super deep and I was spending too much time chasing targets. Time is your enemy during low tide hunting. Was forced to give up on quite a few as they were just too deep. Went to my shovel with the 12" long blade and the cut down handle. Total length approx 28". Now I was recovering EVERY target, no matter how deep. Occasionally, I would have the shovel in the hole up to the plastic handle (16" to 18"). Targets were detected using ALL METAL (Gobble-Gobble supertune).
The 12" coil seems to glide over the wet sand effortlessly and you can cover large sections of beach with the BHID300. This machine will get you the depth in addition to covering much more area than you might cover with a slow sweep VLF or P.I. machine. Found the lights to be very accurate and noticed that after a while the ALL METAL sounds of different targets were somewhat different and learn-able giving you more discrimination.
Although I've not used it in (black sand) type environments, the words of caution on mineralization should be checked out. This is a very adaptable machine, so I would use it anywhere. Good luck finding the correct water machine. HH
Ron
The 12" coil seems to glide over the wet sand effortlessly and you can cover large sections of beach with the BHID300. This machine will get you the depth in addition to covering much more area than you might cover with a slow sweep VLF or P.I. machine. Found the lights to be very accurate and noticed that after a while the ALL METAL sounds of different targets were somewhat different and learn-able giving you more discrimination.
Although I've not used it in (black sand) type environments, the words of caution on mineralization should be checked out. This is a very adaptable machine, so I would use it anywhere. Good luck finding the correct water machine. HH
Ron
BEACH HUNTER
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diggindirt
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Yep, Jackalope has said it all!
Hunt in all metal using the lights to ignore iron, the machine is an excellent all around beach hunter!
I hunt with an Infinium, Beach Hunter 300, and CZ20 for all my water detecting, BUT the 300 is the machine I usually grab first! I have mine mounted on an Anderson shaft and really like the setup, but I might just chest mount it for a real easy and light hunting day out!
One other thing, I also hunt the East coast with black sand and have used all of my machines sucessfully in this type of environment. On the 300 you do need to turn the sensitivity down a hair over the BHID due to the larger type coil. Believe me, this is a deep hitting machine if you ground balance and set it up correctly. It hits hard on tiny targets, has wicked fast recovery, and can cover lots of ground quickly too
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Hunt in all metal using the lights to ignore iron, the machine is an excellent all around beach hunter!
I hunt with an Infinium, Beach Hunter 300, and CZ20 for all my water detecting, BUT the 300 is the machine I usually grab first! I have mine mounted on an Anderson shaft and really like the setup, but I might just chest mount it for a real easy and light hunting day out!
One other thing, I also hunt the East coast with black sand and have used all of my machines sucessfully in this type of environment. On the 300 you do need to turn the sensitivity down a hair over the BHID due to the larger type coil. Believe me, this is a deep hitting machine if you ground balance and set it up correctly. It hits hard on tiny targets, has wicked fast recovery, and can cover lots of ground quickly too
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dirtdigginlady
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Sure that is what She was made for!!!!!
gobble-gobble
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Still use the 9 1/2" coil , tuned right you can't touch it. All metal all the time, black sand no problem like Jackalope says.
I have had problems on Lake Erie on the US side. I have never had it balanced there, lights up like a Christmas tree, especially in all metal mode. Fine on salt water beaches of Cape, Mass. Found a few nice pieces of gold there with it. Might sell it for The Excaliber. Des in Buffalo, NY
Jackalope must be using his on an area of moderate to light mineralization. They start to suffer, as mineralization increases (despite their catchy name).
The way to tell the amount of minerals is usually by the color of the sand. The whiter the sand, the less the minerals. As it starts to approach cinimon/tan color, it's increasing. As it approaches greyish/brown color, it's getting more. As it approaches metalic grey, it's getting pretty nasty. And finally some sand can be metal black color (like what you'd see in gully washes), which is very bad. Another way to tell is if you drag a strong magnet through the sand, how much fine dust particles stick to it. And the minerals can change on a single beach stretch: Ie.: worse up high verses down low towards the water's edge, or vice-versa. Or worse at river/ditch outflows verses farther away, etc.....
The way to tell the amount of minerals is usually by the color of the sand. The whiter the sand, the less the minerals. As it starts to approach cinimon/tan color, it's increasing. As it approaches greyish/brown color, it's getting more. As it approaches metalic grey, it's getting pretty nasty. And finally some sand can be metal black color (like what you'd see in gully washes), which is very bad. Another way to tell is if you drag a strong magnet through the sand, how much fine dust particles stick to it. And the minerals can change on a single beach stretch: Ie.: worse up high verses down low towards the water's edge, or vice-versa. Or worse at river/ditch outflows verses farther away, etc.....
Scrooge:
Let me summarize my thoughts on the White's BHID300;
1. I've read both sides of the mineralization issue and I'm inclined to believe that, adjusted properly, the BHID300 will do just fine in black sand. The positive responses seem to come from those who actually use the BHID300 in black sand environment and the negative responses seem to come more from hearsay rather than actual use.
2. My experience with the BHID300 in Gobble-Gobble super tune had the machine just purring along and the lights are, indeed, accurate. Be advised that this thing is super-sensitive (12' Coil), and if you carry your scoop, shovel, or other metal objects too close it will de-tune it and cause erratic behavior. Not to mention the inability to ground balance it properly.
3. This is a deep seeking machine. When I said that I was digging targets 16" to 18", I wasn't kidding. Using my 12" bladed shovel in wet sand, when I dig a hole with it, it stays dug. Having it in the hole up to the hand grip in order to recover a target just amazed me. It's no wonder that I had to give up on chasing many targets with my scoop.
4. So....you have full sensitivity (Gobble-Gobble), deep, ALL METAL with accurate lights. In addition you have the All Metal sounds that vary with different types of targets. Kind of played a game deciding what type of target I was hearing before I ever looked at the lights and it didn't take long to get pretty good at it.
5. Finally, this is a fast sweep machine and with the 12" coil that means lots of beach covered. Deep machine, accurate AM Disc., good digging tool, lots of beach covered==== in my book that means lots of good finds. Get to the good targets before the slow sweep VLF's and leave the iron for the PI's. HH
Ron
Let me summarize my thoughts on the White's BHID300;
1. I've read both sides of the mineralization issue and I'm inclined to believe that, adjusted properly, the BHID300 will do just fine in black sand. The positive responses seem to come from those who actually use the BHID300 in black sand environment and the negative responses seem to come more from hearsay rather than actual use.
2. My experience with the BHID300 in Gobble-Gobble super tune had the machine just purring along and the lights are, indeed, accurate. Be advised that this thing is super-sensitive (12' Coil), and if you carry your scoop, shovel, or other metal objects too close it will de-tune it and cause erratic behavior. Not to mention the inability to ground balance it properly.
3. This is a deep seeking machine. When I said that I was digging targets 16" to 18", I wasn't kidding. Using my 12" bladed shovel in wet sand, when I dig a hole with it, it stays dug. Having it in the hole up to the hand grip in order to recover a target just amazed me. It's no wonder that I had to give up on chasing many targets with my scoop.
4. So....you have full sensitivity (Gobble-Gobble), deep, ALL METAL with accurate lights. In addition you have the All Metal sounds that vary with different types of targets. Kind of played a game deciding what type of target I was hearing before I ever looked at the lights and it didn't take long to get pretty good at it.
5. Finally, this is a fast sweep machine and with the 12" coil that means lots of beach covered. Deep machine, accurate AM Disc., good digging tool, lots of beach covered==== in my book that means lots of good finds. Get to the good targets before the slow sweep VLF's and leave the iron for the PI's. HH
Ron
Kackalope. I would love to have you balance the machine on Lake Erie. Where do you live? I hunt more coins then beach, but I have alot of experience with detectors. I've called Kelly Co, and a shop out in Long Island NY that loves the Beach Hunter, Have gotten lots of advice to balance the machine, but with no luck on the beaches around here. Seems to work great in the salt water, but that's not around Buffalo. Suggestions? The machine beeps all different colors at Lake Erie, not just red. I did dig all the the yellows just to be sure one day, but false signals. I haven't seen anyone using my type of machine here, just the Excaliber. I loves Whites, but can't stand another season not being able to use this machine. Desmond in Buffalo
I bought one and absolutely no way could I get it to ground balance on Folly Beach (maybe there's more than black sand here?). It falsed with every move and I tried numerous settings. There could have possibly been a problem with the unit but I don't think so. Anyway, I sent it back and got the Excal II. The Minelabs purrr along from high, dry sand to wet sand to water without skipping a beat. I really wanted that BHID 300 to work too because of the good things I had heard about it. For those who are able to use it and get such extreme depths, I am envious. Wish I could have. --Jerry
Desmond:
Although my response was to the inquiry by Scrooge as to how the BHID300 works in salt water, I can tell you my experience with the machine here in Wyoming.
At the beach here, what's supposed to be sand is ( I believe ) highly mineralized tailing's. Also, 5" or 6" down is a heavy clay layer that pretty much traps everything and is a real pain to dig in.
So, figuring most targets will be shallow, I had no need to do the super-tune thing. The BHID300 balanced without missing a beat. Previous hunts on the beach with my 1280X failed to produce any pull tabs, so I decided to dig only Yellow (Gold) light signals and return later for the coin/silver targets. Other than frozen feet and tons of shotgun shell casings (Yellow light) the only thing that wasn't working real well, was me.
You say it works well in salt water, so it must be something other than the machine. Do you have the old 9.5" coil or the 12"? The 12" coil is super-sensitive so, belt buckles, metal shoelace guides, keys or other metal objects in your pockets might be detuning it. Not being able to ground balance has me scratching my head.
Jerry:
Sure wish that BHID300 would have worked out for you. It's an under-rated, fun machine to use.
Ron
Although my response was to the inquiry by Scrooge as to how the BHID300 works in salt water, I can tell you my experience with the machine here in Wyoming.
At the beach here, what's supposed to be sand is ( I believe ) highly mineralized tailing's. Also, 5" or 6" down is a heavy clay layer that pretty much traps everything and is a real pain to dig in.
So, figuring most targets will be shallow, I had no need to do the super-tune thing. The BHID300 balanced without missing a beat. Previous hunts on the beach with my 1280X failed to produce any pull tabs, so I decided to dig only Yellow (Gold) light signals and return later for the coin/silver targets. Other than frozen feet and tons of shotgun shell casings (Yellow light) the only thing that wasn't working real well, was me.
You say it works well in salt water, so it must be something other than the machine. Do you have the old 9.5" coil or the 12"? The 12" coil is super-sensitive so, belt buckles, metal shoelace guides, keys or other metal objects in your pockets might be detuning it. Not being able to ground balance has me scratching my head.
Jerry:
Sure wish that BHID300 would have worked out for you. It's an under-rated, fun machine to use.
Ron
gobble-gobble
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I live & hunt Long Island N.Y. Also hunted Fl. salt water & Maryland lakes & creeks With the BHID never had a problem. I f the detector talks back abit in the black sand which we have alot of, I just lower the sen. you really don't lose much depth. I only hunt in All Metal & dig only the yellow, disc. can be used if you have a super CLEAN beach I also hunt with the Excal 1000 & the DetectorPro PI. When we do travel the BH is the first to be packed.I have the older model 9 1/2" coil & love it. The 12" newer models are abit hotter. The main thing is it has to be set up right,once it is look out.
gobble-gobble
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Yes it can be replaced if you can find the 9 1/2. You would have to send it to Whites service to be hard wired. But I would do this as the last resort. See if you can find someone in your area with the 9 1/2 & talk with them. Do you have a club in the area ? Maybe one of the members has one. Did you try lowering the sen.?
I have also done alot of hunting in the creeks & rivers upstate & never had a problem. You could have a bad coil , just a thought
I have also done alot of hunting in the creeks & rivers upstate & never had a problem. You could have a bad coil , just a thought
gobble-gobble
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Whites service is top shelf, Is it still under warranty ? If it is , Centreville Electroronics , 10063 Wellington Rd. Manassa , Va. 20110. Phone # 1-888-645-0202, ask for Bob. Let us know how you make out. Good luck