Which price level detector should we be using?

[Anonymous]

I can't help but point out that the lower-priced Tesoros seem to be "whuppin" the high-end machines. I prefer the Silver over the Cibola, and have tried and tested both enough to form an opinion. I do believe that, in order to be more successful, I need to step down a notch to the Compadre. They seem to be kickin' butt!

 

[Canewrap]

You probably have good ground. I have an Eldorado and use it instead of the Cibola because it gets almost twice the depth in a lot of places here, where the ground is moderately mineralized with pockets of bad ground. A fixed ground balance machine here in N. Bama is only good for hunting tot lots and school yards.

 

[Anonymous]

IMHO, no question about it......going backwards may mean going forward.......What's Tesoro's slogan on the Compadre? Something like "simple is better"?..............Amen!

 

[rmptr]

I am a professional construction worker and own MANY more tools than most I have ever met.

In my experience, it is easier to recoup costs for a less expensive tool than premium priced top quality tools.

Backups are always required, in case of sudden death! or expansion of the scope, or intensity of the work.

When I find circumstances are profitable, my next purchase is a top quality tool, and the initial purchase is relegated to status of backup.
Some tools are just special, and known far and wide to be a pleasure to use...

I do not have a LOT of metal detectors....

Findmall offers excellent presentations on most MD's available, allowing a buyer to make the most appropriate selection!

MD's are much the same as my professional tools... if an acceptable level of effectiveness is present, it is the persistent effort of application that gets the best results.
rmptr

 

[Anonymous]

[quote rmptr]I am a professional construction worker and own MANY more tools than most I have ever met.

In my experience, it is easier to recoup costs for a less expensive tool than premium priced top quality tools.

Backups are always required, in case of sudden death! or expansion of the scope, or intensity of the work.

When I find circumstances are profitable, my next purchase is a top quality tool, and the initial purchase is relegated to status of backup.
Some tools are just special, and known far and wide to be a pleasure to use...

I do not have a LOT of metal detectors....

Findmall offers excellent presentations on most MD's available, allowing a buyer to make the most appropriate selection!

MD's are much the same as my professional tools... if an acceptable level of effectiveness is present, it is the persistent effort of application that gets the best results.
rmptr[/quote] Actually, I was being a little "humorous" when I posted this. Call it ironic humor. I have been digging since '82, and have enjoyed it greatly. I know what you're saying about persistence. So true! I am not nearly as persistent as I was years ago, perhaps mostly due to health issues. But I enjoy posting and reading on the forum!!

 

[Ron Lord]

My first MD cost $60 my last cost $340, A Silver-u-Max, I had it month, I found $105.33 in coin , 3 silver rings 1 Gold ring. It doesn't matter how much you pay for MD ,but how fast you can find coins,ring and stuff that will pay for it!

 

[Anonymous]

Junklord.....How well I know. I found approx. 1500.00 worth of Civil War relics with my Silver in only a few trips to an un-hunted camp. My point was not taken too well by some readers. I was simply implying that maybe some of us need to "graduate backwards" to find more. I LOVE my Silver uMax. That's whay I kept it and sold the Cibola (ha). As I mentioned before, I intended the post be kinda funny..............well, maybe just a little. I didn't mean to step on anybody's toes. I'm sorry if I did. I just found it ironic(but good) that the Compadre owners are having such good luck. I'm VERY happy for them. In reality, as I have said earlier......I favored my Silver uMax over the Cibola that I had. So I have a testimonial to that. As Tesoro says about the Compadre......sometimes less can be more....I tend to agree. I enjoy a laugh every once in a while, also....

 

[gipper2000]

Ya i bought a tiger shark for around $599.00 found 15 gold ring in 1 week. Then sold the rings for $1200.00 and bought a 2nd tiger.shark.

I now have 4 water MD. 1 CZ20 , 2 TS & 1 Whites PI Pro. All paid for by the gold rings i have found in the water.

Tom//MI.

 

[tabdog]

Hay Tesoronut,

I also had a Cibola and

loved it. After having my Silver for a while,

I decided I could not part with it. When it came down to

having to make a decision to lighten my load, so to speek, I had to

choose to let the Cibola go for several reasons. But one main reason was, there

was no way that I was going to give up the Silver. Once I gave the Compadre a chance, it

became as much or more important to me than the Silver. Now, if I have to get rid of another one, it will

be my Euro Sabre. If you had suggseted that to me a few months ago, I would have thought you were crazy. If this

text seems to be going down hill, it's because I'm UP-GRADING DOWN HILL. Too bad Tesoro doesn't make something cheeper.

HH,

 

[Anonymous]

[quote gipper2000]Ya i bought a tiger shark for around $599.00 found 15 gold ring in 1 week. Then sold the rings for $1200.00 and bought a 2nd tiger.shark.

I now have 4 water MD. 1 CZ20 , 2 TS & 1 Whites PI Pro. All paid for by the gold rings i have found in the water.

Tom//MI.[/quote] You are rolling! I only have one water machine, and it's an old Whites VLF unit. It's paid for itself many times over the years. I'm thinking about one of those Detector-Pro Headhunter wading units, or possibly a Tiger Shark for this summer. If I get in over my head when I water hunt, it's usually an accident!

 

[Anonymous]

[quote tabdog]Hay Tesoronut,

I also had a Cibola and

loved it. After having my Silver for a while,

I decided I could not part with it. When it came down to

having to make a decision to lighten my load, so to speek, I had to

choose to let the Cibola go for several reasons. But one main reason was, there

was no way that I was going to give up the Silver. Once I gave the Compadre a chance, it

became as much or more important to me than the Silver. Now, if I have to get rid of another one, it will

be my Euro Sabre. If you had suggseted that to me a few months ago, I would have thought you were crazy. If this

text seems to be going down hill, it's because I'm UP-GRADING DOWN HILL. Too bad Tesoro doesn't make something cheeper.

HH,[/quote] AMEN, BROTHER!!!!!!!!!! Lots of people were telling me how well I was going to like the Cibola. And I did like it.It worked fine, with no problems. But, if I had bought the Cib first, instead of the Silver, I doubt that I would ever have known how much I'd have liked the Silver. Keep up the good work with the Compadre!.I may get one........

 

[Bugar In. USA]

Have found lots of stuff-coin,relics, with Silver, and many simpler machines, Many times the complex,expensive machine user is busy re- programing, or twistng knobs, using touchpads,changing settings, reading his LCD, while you dissapear in the distance filling your pouch, learn what you use,use what you learn

 

[BarberBill]

Well, in my opinion, unless one needs the extra features on the more upscale machines, there's no reason to use one when one of the decent, well performing cheaper ones will do the job. If you hunt mineralized ground often, you probably do need either manual ground balance or one of the true automatic gb machines. If you hunt coins in well manicured lawns and parks, tid may be a more serious consideration. Nugget hunters need a higher frequency machine and lots of gain as well as ground balance to detect the smaller pieces of gold that are usually found where mineralization is high. When all is said and done, though, lots of experience with whatever you use will help find more goodies than all the bells and whistles. My two bits.
Bill

 

[tabdog]

I agree with most of what you say.

Although the Compadre, according to Monte and me, can contend with very harsh conditions with only factory set GB.

If it can penitrate Monte's " Home Stead Rock " and the nasty peagravel that stops Vagueroes and many Whites and Minelabs high end units, then it should be able to handle most situations.

I don't coin hunt, per say. But I can tell with a good degree of certainty whether I have a coin response and it's depth. I also have a good chance of reconizing other targets of interest. The TID simply gives a reading on coins with a good degree of certainty. In my experience the degree of certainty is no better than the degree of certainty I have with my Silver or my Compadre.

My total investment on these two machines is around $270. That's for both of them.

My Euro Saber cost more than that and has to take back seat to the them.

HH,

 

[Pap]

have you tried the seven inch coil on the Euro? The Eldorado with the seven inch coil separates very well and has depth. Also the Eldorado will read through Monte's " Home Stead Rock " along with the pea gravel he mentioned.
Pap

 

[rmptr]

It may be apples and oranges,
but I always put more on the table with my old Iver Johnson 16 than I did with my browning...
couldn't EVEN take my Zoli in the brush, so it ended up being the least fun, and first to go!

Crazy, but I'd still like to get all those expensive bells and whistles that talk you out of digging a target, one day...

HH

 

[Anonymous]

[quote Bugar In. USA]Have found lots of stuff-coin,relics, with Silver, and many simpler machines, Many times the complex,expensive machine user is busy re- programing, or twistng knobs, using touchpads,changing settings, reading his LCD, while you dissapear in the distance filling your pouch, learn what you use,use what you learn [/quote] Amen on that Silver! I have one and I love it....

 

[BarberBill]

I'm going to jump in again - as to preset ground balance, I've owned a Compadre and do own 2 Silver Sabre umax machines. I truthfully haven't had any problem in my area that the preset didn't work pretty well. However, if mineralization is severe enough, without adjustment, performance will suffer - so for the MOST versatility manual or true auto gb is a plus. One time I dug the head from a horsehoe nail at a measured 7+inches with the SSumax in an old road in the mountains. The signal was strong and that's darn good sensitivity and performance in my estimation. From my own experience and from reading many posts by people using Compadres, Silver umax, Silver Sabre umaxes, Cibola's etc. it is pretty clear that for a lot of detecting, a good preset machine will do just fine so don't get me wrong when I mention manual ground balance as I agree that it isn't always a "must have".
Happy hunting all - I'm pepped up as our snow is beginning to melt and hopefully will be able to get out and swing the coil before too long.

 

[tabdog]

People tend to put the Compadre in the same boat as the other non manual ground balance metal detectors.

According to Monte, the Compadre's ability to deal with harsh ground conditions, ranks with the Tesoro units with manual ground balance. Even better than the Vaquero. It ranks with the Tejon, Eldorado, Euro Sabre and Bandido uMax.

I agree with Monte on this matter. I can cut and past his comments if your having trouble with the concept.

Maybe less is better.

HH,

 

[BarberBill]

Actually, I've been considering adding a Compadre to my arsenal again. Especially if I can find a good deal on a used one with the 7" coil.
I'm not overly interested in the 51/4 " coil model as I have both the 4" and the 7" available for my SSumax and Eldorado. Might at sometime add one for them, though. One thing I wasn't too enthused about on the first Compadre I had, is the fact that the coil is hardwired to the control box taking away the easy exchange of coils. However, given the limitations, I've always thought that the Compadre was way underrated and over looked by most hunters. It offers more bang for the buck than anything out there at a comparable price in my opinion.
HH
Bill