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3RINGER

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Saw this link and see that a book is out or has been out. "Mastering the Makro Racer"....that was rather fast. Has any members read this or heard about it? Is it worth the time and money?

Here is the link

http://www.clivesgoldpage.com/
 
I've read two of his books and have kicked myself for ever letting them go. Very informative for jewelry hunting especially. Some of his techniques seem rather obvious, but the less obvious ones are what make his books worth the read.

I may have to order his book on the Racer. He posts elsewhere on this forum. I would think he'd be posting a lot more in the Makro area. Kind of surprising that he's written a book on it and not been actively posting here..
 
The Racer is known for it's simplicity.What is there to Master? Use it. Get to know it. And teach yourself as you go.
 
Goodmore the Racer has performed well for me as it has done for others. Really enjoy the simplicity yet ability to recover targets among the trash the way it does, but I'm always willing to learn more from those that know more. I've found in this hobby no matter how much I think I know I can always learn from others.

HH
 
Phillip_in_NM said:
I've read two of his books and have kicked myself for ever letting them go. Very informative for jewelry hunting especially. Some of his techniques seem rather obvious, but the less obvious ones are what make his books worth the read.

I may have to order his book on the Racer. He posts elsewhere on this forum. I would think he'd be posting a lot more in the Makro area. Kind of surprising that he's written a book on it and not been actively posting here..


Thx Phillip
I've seen where others like the books he has out as well. Think I'm going to go ahead and get one. Same as you, would think he would have jumped in on some of our post though.

HH
 
The Racer is a turn on and hunt machine I don't find that a book would help me. Maybe on a Deus
 
3RINGER said:
Goodmore the Racer has performed well for me as it has done for others. Really enjoy the simplicity yet ability to recover targets among the trash the way it does, but I'm always willing to learn more from those that know more. I've found in this hobby no matter how much I think I know I can always learn from others.

HH

I agree 100%. I can learn any detector, but I'd be a fool not to listen to someone who has already mastered it. It's my choice if I want to pay for a book that will help master the detector more quickly.
 
I ordered my copy a couple of days ago. I've been using my Racer for about 7 months but maybe I'll pick up something that I've missed. After detecting for forty years, I've found that I don't know it all, and any time I can learn something new just helps me to be better at what I love to do. Don't be afraid of books. Most all of us have learned a lot from books. You don't become a brain surgeon by just picking up the tools and learning how to use them. Duh!
 
Listen to what Tom says here, if we all knew everything, there wouldn't be a need for the forum, anyways I read Clive's book on the DFX and it was full of good stuff, even if you take away one good suggestion from it, it could be worth its weight in gold. 3Ringer, I will get your thoughts after you read it. HH
 
Thanks for your interest, guys. Most of the good finds I've made over the years have come from things I learned from others. I did do a lot of posts and PMs asking questions as I was getting to know the Racer both for my W & E review and for the book. I may not have posted that much but certainly read every word written on the forum before starting the project. The Makro Racer is a simple detector to pick up and use, but it's operating characteristics (fast responding, 14 kHz, high gain) produce some different interractions in how it responds to the ground and targets--as do all high gain detectors. You could say that with the Racer, you find more because you hear more which takes some getting used to. A bit of instruction does not hurt either--it helps to know just why the Racer performs as it does. I learnt a ton on this forum and this guided me in the field to develop with the machine and write the book. The idea was to bring some of these methods together and hopefully learn more from what others glean from it. As requested, I've posted an exerpt for anyone who who wants to get a general idea of the kind of material the book contains. I hope that my effort enhances the detecting experience of anyone who choses to read.
Kind Regards,
cjc
 
goodmore said:
The Racer is known for it's simplicity.What is there to Master? Use it. Get to know it. And teach yourself as you go.

I kind of feel the same way. I remember when the book aurthor was working on a review for Eastern & Western he poped on here asking questions about the Racer. I could be wrong, but I suspect the book may be nothing more then what's already been discused at length here.... someone buy it and let us know :rofl:
 
Cal_Cobra said:
goodmore said:
The Racer is known for it's simplicity.What is there to Master? Use it. Get to know it. And teach yourself as you go.

I kind of feel the same way. I remember when the book aurthor was working on a review for Eastern & Western he poped on here asking questions about the Racer. I could be wrong, but I suspect the book may be nothing more then what's already been discused at length here.... someone buy it and let us know :rofl:

Well, I certainly understand your concern. I'm sure ALL books published about any detector get most of their pearls of wisdom from the people posting here.:rolleyes:

I can't imagine any author wanting to confer with other experienced users. Holey Moley! What was he thinking???
 
CJC

Thx for the post and info, as well as taking the time on the book. Networking with the members to get real world experience , testing it yourself and seeing what works.... then combining this in a book seems to be a great resource to fall back on for Racer owners. I'm interested to see what it in tells and how it can help me in the field.

HH
Tom
 
yep I agree if I don't learn something every time I go detecting I am surely not paying attention , doesn't have to be earth shattering, but sometimes finding the right question is harder than the right answer.
so if the books help why not have a read :biggrin:

AJ
 
did u buy the book also can you send me a PM I have questions I have a racer and am having trouble using it.
 
PM attempted but came back as an issue for some reason...get with mod. and see what's up.

Best thing to do is ask your Q in a new Post as I'm sure you will get the needed help by many who have had their units from day one. Plus when a new member comes to the forum and does a search, who knows....it may be the same Q you asked and got an answer too, therefore helping him or her as well.

HH
 
Thanks for your feedback, Tom. The Racer is a machine that's easier to get results with if you have some basics. These then form the foundation for any advanced techniques. These are invaluable skills that generalize to any machine--things like understanding high gain circuitry, recognizing obvious "falses" and mediating the low conductor punch of a 14 kHz operating frequency. When I picked up the Racer--there were things I had to "re-learn" in order to bring up my accuracy. I'm grateful for this forum and it's contributors for putting me on the right track.
Hope you like the book. I write kind of like I hunt--if there was presently anything else to be "dug up"--it would be in there too.
cjc
 
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