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well the ohio mailman came on friday while i was at work - now i have the mumbles bad
- Thread starter GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va
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Horsesoldier
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First of all let me say that its not our place to judge this guy or make fun of him or his "situation" whether fictional or not. The bottom line is that we find rings and things all the time. What's one ring? If any of us make the effort to return something that's been lost to its rightful owner no matter what the cost we shouldn't expect anything in return. "Thank You" should be reward enough. Let me remind you that everything we find belongs to someone else and for every piece we return we will find ten, twenty, or who knows how much more. This is my second summer in the surf and also for hanging out on this forum. I respect each and every one of you guys and value your advice and opinions but I must say I'm very disappointed in the selfish responses I've been reading. O.K. That's it...I'm off my soap box now! I wish all you you happy hunting!
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Night Train
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Knowing Max, he was not looking for anything in return other than the cost of shipping the ring. Who is to say these are selfish responses. This guy didn't live up to his end of the bargain. If you are poor, you don't start out on a voyage that would likely be a minimum of a thousand miles round trip. If he put the trip on a credit card to make it doable, then I would like to read his letter to the credit card company when he can't meet his obligation to them.
Dave
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I've been called naive and idealistic, but I always believe there are two sides to every story and I generally think the best of everyone and give them the benefit of the doubt unless/until they prove to me otherwise.
I'm not terribly surprised (disappointed a little maybe, but not surprised) that some of the responses here sound callous and selfish. Not everyone is in this hobby for the same reasons and I'm not in a position to judge anyone's intentions. Some of us hunt for the sheer joy of not knowing if that next tone will be a 300 year old gold coin washed up on shore, or another pop tab. Others hunt primarily to make as much $ as they can during the season so they can purchase other things, etc...
I guess the thing that bugs me the most is that some people who know I metal detect (specifically that I detect beaches and water for jewelry) have implied that I'm a scavenger and that I prey on people who lose items and then keep them as mine. Whether it's jealousy that they don't find those items, or they honestly feel that way doesn't matter - it's a perception that I don't like people to have about me because I don't feel it's true.
I've done my best to convince them that if I can find the previous owner of something I've detected, I will do that 100% of the time and never ask for anything in return - it just makes it more difficult for me in pursuing my hobby when I realize that not alot of people share my opinion and that someone elses actions affect people's perception of me when they see me out hunting.
That said - The world is a great place because everyone is different. As long as each of us can look in the mirror each day, that's all that matters. There's a little selfishness and greediness in all of us who detect - I doubt any of us would do it if we didn't picture ourselves looking into a treasure chest of things WE personally found! There's definitely a little pirate blood in all of us imho.
Fill your holes, pick up your garbage and respect me when I'm out hunting and you can do what you want with your finds
I'm not terribly surprised (disappointed a little maybe, but not surprised) that some of the responses here sound callous and selfish. Not everyone is in this hobby for the same reasons and I'm not in a position to judge anyone's intentions. Some of us hunt for the sheer joy of not knowing if that next tone will be a 300 year old gold coin washed up on shore, or another pop tab. Others hunt primarily to make as much $ as they can during the season so they can purchase other things, etc...
I guess the thing that bugs me the most is that some people who know I metal detect (specifically that I detect beaches and water for jewelry) have implied that I'm a scavenger and that I prey on people who lose items and then keep them as mine. Whether it's jealousy that they don't find those items, or they honestly feel that way doesn't matter - it's a perception that I don't like people to have about me because I don't feel it's true.
I've done my best to convince them that if I can find the previous owner of something I've detected, I will do that 100% of the time and never ask for anything in return - it just makes it more difficult for me in pursuing my hobby when I realize that not alot of people share my opinion and that someone elses actions affect people's perception of me when they see me out hunting.
That said - The world is a great place because everyone is different. As long as each of us can look in the mirror each day, that's all that matters. There's a little selfishness and greediness in all of us who detect - I doubt any of us would do it if we didn't picture ourselves looking into a treasure chest of things WE personally found! There's definitely a little pirate blood in all of us imho.
Fill your holes, pick up your garbage and respect me when I'm out hunting and you can do what you want with your finds
first off max don't let it bother ya. myself i wouldn't let that go. i would send him a letter back replying to what he had said. no reason to be nasty but i would express my opinion of what he had said. you were nice enough to return his ring & he tries to lay a guilt trip on you. i have went through Great lengths to return rings & have not even received a thank you. it was as if i was EXPECTED to do this for them. it gets very frustrating, yet i still do return rings. i now have a rule when i look for jewelry for people. if they are nice & sincere, then i will help them with or without a reward. if they give me ANY type of attitude then i am not looking for their rings. how many times have we been laughed at, pointed at, talked about in a negative way? i cannot even begin to count them & i get very tired of it.
here is a good example: i was in canada just a few wks ago. this smart ass punk decides to do something i have never seen anyone do. he dives in front of my detector, not once but 3 times. i was ready to kick his ass but then i think "hey i am in canada, not sure how that one would go over". so i turn away, he then sees another guy detecting does the same thing. only this time on the 2nd dive he breaks the guys detector. he actually broke the stem completely off the coil gets up and just walks away. i told the guy to contact the police officer in the parking lot. i have no idea how it played out. my point is i am tired of the inappreciative people out there. if i can help someone out i will, only if they are courteous to me. i frequently go to beaches & i am asked did you find this ring or that ring. i say ok where did u lose it, don't know when 2wks ago. i say i will see what i can do, no mention of oh thank you for looking, just pretty much get to it. so forget that i came to the beach to look where i want to not where u direct me to. then they come back 1hr later did u find my ring yet? no, not thanks for looking. just walk away & not say anything. see my point, so when u say u are disappointed in some of us that is why we feel like we do. don't get me wrong i still help people but it is NOT my duty to help them if they can't be decent & courteous to me.
anyway i have said what i have to say - enough venting
GOOD LUCK - Go find some more loot MAX!!!
here is a good example: i was in canada just a few wks ago. this smart ass punk decides to do something i have never seen anyone do. he dives in front of my detector, not once but 3 times. i was ready to kick his ass but then i think "hey i am in canada, not sure how that one would go over". so i turn away, he then sees another guy detecting does the same thing. only this time on the 2nd dive he breaks the guys detector. he actually broke the stem completely off the coil gets up and just walks away. i told the guy to contact the police officer in the parking lot. i have no idea how it played out. my point is i am tired of the inappreciative people out there. if i can help someone out i will, only if they are courteous to me. i frequently go to beaches & i am asked did you find this ring or that ring. i say ok where did u lose it, don't know when 2wks ago. i say i will see what i can do, no mention of oh thank you for looking, just pretty much get to it. so forget that i came to the beach to look where i want to not where u direct me to. then they come back 1hr later did u find my ring yet? no, not thanks for looking. just walk away & not say anything. see my point, so when u say u are disappointed in some of us that is why we feel like we do. don't get me wrong i still help people but it is NOT my duty to help them if they can't be decent & courteous to me.
anyway i have said what i have to say - enough venting
GOOD LUCK - Go find some more loot MAX!!!
Stingraymb
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I think his story is B.S. - Drove to the beach from Ohio, but doesn't have $50 reward he wanted to give you? If he did want to reward you, he would have just sent the psotage right away and additional $ later.
man o man max im a wantin to real bad like,,,,but vacation time is very limited this year ,,,as me and mummy went to cancun this winter,,,,didn't find nuttin there but a few coins,,,no nitros at all,,,sand was to soft and everything just sank outta sight,,,,but had a very good time,,,,,hope to get back to the mine soon ,,,,and maybe to that italian eatery that you and tim ,took us to can't wait sure miss that beach at dawn,,,doesn't get any better than that,,,,,,find some nitros for me in the mean time,,,,,ed
captRobert
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Ol capt'n sez AYE
! that what be lost in davey Jones deep blue, an those that risks his denizens, sharks, rays an jellies, to find that there gold an silver plunder....are in true pirates of the code....If you can find it, you keep it..
! that what be lost in davey Jones deep blue, an those that risks his denizens, sharks, rays an jellies, to find that there gold an silver plunder....are in true pirates of the code....If you can find it, you keep it..Hey Max, If he was a stand up Guy he would have saved up all his pennies and taken his Family to the Beach when Money and Time was not so crucial. As a father he would have used that $ he spent on gas and parking to feed and cloth his children not throw it away on a beach trip he absolutly could not afford, What if he broke down on the side of the road in the middle of the night ! NO he was renegging on his deal with you and trying to make you the villin, Don"t worry u still the man forget about his ridiculous story and go do what you do best. HH
GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va
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THE DAY HE LOST IT, HE WROTE HIS NUMBER IN THE SAND AND I POSTED IT ON SEVERAL FORUMS.........I TOLD HIM IF SOMEONE FINDS IT, THEY WILL CONTACT HIM.............SEVERAL OF US LOOKED FOR IT THAT DAY. NO FINDS
THAT NIGHT I DID FIND IT --------I CALLED AND HE SAID TO SEND IT AND HE WOULD REPAY ME...............THAT WAS ALMOST 4WEEKS AGO------------IF HE HAD SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE REPAYMENT PART I MIGHT HAVE JUST SENT IT, WHAT THE HELL IS ONE MEAGER RING WHEN WE ALL HAVE SOME MANY, I CERTAINLY AM NOT GOING TO MISS IT
NO MAIL...............NO AMMO.........I DO NOT LIKE IT...........
END OF STORY
THAT NIGHT I DID FIND IT --------I CALLED AND HE SAID TO SEND IT AND HE WOULD REPAY ME...............THAT WAS ALMOST 4WEEKS AGO------------IF HE HAD SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE REPAYMENT PART I MIGHT HAVE JUST SENT IT, WHAT THE HELL IS ONE MEAGER RING WHEN WE ALL HAVE SOME MANY, I CERTAINLY AM NOT GOING TO MISS IT
NO MAIL...............NO AMMO.........I DO NOT LIKE IT...........
END OF STORY
Come on folks - do the right thing for the right reason....and be happy to look yourself in the mirror every day. Who really believes someone would spend the time and effort to make up a story like the guy who's ring was returned? Any bum who wanted to lie and not make the promised payment would just ignore the whole thing, he wouldn't take the time to make up a sob story. Give the guy a break, and be happy that YOU know YOU did the right thing.
Gravedigger - If you are so hurt by the delay in payment, send me your address and I'll pay you the shipping cost. ASAP so you won't get mad at me. !
Gravedigger - If you are so hurt by the delay in payment, send me your address and I'll pay you the shipping cost. ASAP so you won't get mad at me. !
I've found the only way to beat is to play their own game.
Consider writing him a letter telling him you completely understand his predicament and you sincerely wish him the very best in the future.
That you to were once in such a predicament, but hard work, honesty,
and personal integrity helped you rise above it. Then attach a picture of you smiling big with; the Lear, a digger, and a Rolls. ;-)
Turd sandwich with ice cream on top, just like he served you.
Consider writing him a letter telling him you completely understand his predicament and you sincerely wish him the very best in the future.
That you to were once in such a predicament, but hard work, honesty,
and personal integrity helped you rise above it. Then attach a picture of you smiling big with; the Lear, a digger, and a Rolls. ;-)
Turd sandwich with ice cream on top, just like he served you.