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Water Detectors

It is just as easy. Step 1, install batteries. Step 2, turn on. Step 3, ground balance by raising and lowering coil to the ground and turning GB knob for the least sound fluctuation. Step 4, set Disc to something low, just enough to turn iron into a broken tone, 1 or 2 on my machine. Step 5, FIND STUFF!! HH Joe
 
Thanks for your replies guys. Your opinions are appreciated. One of my questions is about the depth differance between the TS and the Excal. Whats the depth differance between these machines? Thanks again guys, I really appreciate your expertise. You definitely make it easy for a guy on deciding which machine to buy. PJ
 
PJ said:
Thanks for your replies guys. Your opinions are appreciated. One of my questions is about the depth differance between the TS and the Excal. Whats the depth differance between these machines? Thanks again guys, I really appreciate your expertise. You definitely make it easy for a guy on deciding which machine to buy. PJ
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This is a question that is hard to give a definitive answer to. All things being equal, including the experience and familiarity with both units by the operator I would probably give the edge to the Excal. But seldom are all things equal. I will just say that good things can be found at different depths depending on where you are searching. The Tesoro should provide you with more than enough depth to make some awesome finds. And remember this, small gold chains and small gold bands (like the ladies kind that hold diamonds) will often be found at depths of 6 inches or less.
Jerry
 
Ism said:
They have websites, why dont you do some options research on your own?
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He may have already done this. No manufacturer is going to advertise any negatives about their products. Asking for advice from people who have experience with units they are considering or even asking as a beginning point for someone with no knowledge at all about metal detecting is a good idea imo. I know that people who have been at it for a long time may get tired of the seemingly endless newbie questions but we would all do well to remember that we too were newbies at one time. A few replies from a well thought out question is much more valuable than any manufacturer's brochure or online advertising. I only wish the internet and these forums had been around when I started 30 years ago. I consider his questions here as research, don't you? ;)
Jerry
 
Just my two cents, also I did not see this post till after I had posed a similar question above. ooopppssss! Sorry guys!
 
I live in Wisconsin and also hunt Upper Michigan and struggled the same way you do. I tilted Excalibur 8" coil because I hunt saltwater one week per year and scuba dive occasionally. An Excalibur is also very good for Lake Michigan where the extra depth is nice for the shifting sands. Fact of the matter is that I do not find as much gold as the southern boys, and I appreciate the tone id of the excal for deep silver coins.

Gold chains with the Excal, nope, except for some big ones. Very small rings and earring backs though.

If I had to do it again, I would have went with the 10" excal because I don't dive as much as I'd like to.

I would say if you hunt mostly inland lakes go with the tesoro, if mostly lake michigan, excalibur. Either way, there will probably be circumstances where you will wish you had the other. Maybe get a used one of each.
 
Thinkin2, Gabeachsweeper and Scott. Thanks for your replies. Thinkin2, I appreciate you defending me. I figured he must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed. Scott, what part of Wi are you from. I live in Milwaukee but detect by my place up in Marinette when ever I am up there. PJ
 
PJ said:
Thinkin2, Gabeachsweeper and Scott. Thanks for your replies. Thinkin2, I appreciate you defending me. I figured he must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed. Scott, what part of Wi are you from. I live in Milwaukee but detect by my place up in Marinette when ever I am up there. PJ
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PJ, you're welcome, glad to offer any help I can. Bust as far as lsm goes, I don't think he meant anything by his post. He was probably trying to be helpful and suggest that some of your questions might be answered by the manufacturer's info. Sometimes a post comes across the wrong way and I suspect this was one of them. I agree that is where research should begin though since it can give the researcher enough information to narrow his list of possible detectors down. Then, with that information a person will know exactly what kind of experiences to ask people about with certain detectors and hunting conditions. To me at least, you seem to have done that. Best of luck with your selection and hope you make many great finds.
Jerry
 
Well hello! PJ. I'm in Menominee. Also there is nothing north of the river........lol. When the Ice breaks(someday) if ya want we can go hunt and you can test drive my Tesoro Stingray 2(new mdl is the Tiger) or my White's BHID. I'm gonna sell one of them as I don't need both. Just don't know which one yet, have to hunt and see which one I like the best. Back to work!
 
I've been detecting on land for over 20 years with various machines. I decided that during the hot and dry summer months here in the mid-west that I would like to try some water hunting. I bought a Garrett Seahunter Mark II at a reasonable price from ebay. I used it a few times last year, and discovered that water hunting is a very different ball game. I actually bought this machine with hope of getting to the gulf or Florida coast and put it to use. It just depends on time etc. My concern is that the club I'm in, when asked what kind of machine I bought, after I told them. It was "Hey did you hear what kind of machine he bought". followed by some laughter. Is this machine like using a dinosaur or something? I did recover a small silver chain, silver ear ring, silver ring. I only looked at a very small swim area, and only a few times late last summer. Any comments on this machine will be appreciated.
 
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The Seahunter is a Pulse Induction machine and is primarily used on saltwater beaches or diving in saltwater. It has no discrimination capabilites that I know of so you dig pretty much everything. But hey, you made some finds. Any idea how deep the finds were? Personally, if this is just something you might use once in a blue moon on a vacation, I would sell it and buy one of the good vlf water units, preferably a dual or multi tone unit like Minelab or White's. I think the White's Beach Hunter units are somewhat in line with the price of your Garrett. Best of luck and if somebody laughs at you when you're making finds, laugh back at them. :biggrin:
Jerry
 
Thanks folks for input on the Seahunter. Jerry, you asked how deep the keeper items were. I can't say for sure. Like I said, water hunting is very different from land hunting....so is the recovery process. I have a scoop, but the handle is only probably 36" long. Pinpointing wasn't the problem, getting the objects into the scoop were quite a challenge in chest deep water for me. More targets, more time, I'm sure, will result faster recovery.
 
Yep, it's a different ballgame alright, especially when you're trying to maintain your balance in breaking surf. Anyway, though you probably already know this, the method I think lots use is to pinpoint the target and then put your toe against the back of the coil. Then put the point of your scoop where your toe is and start your dig there. At least that is how I was taught. Still can be hard to recover the target sometimes though. Generally I keep to the wet sand these days. Getting a little older and the surf makes me tired, lol. Good luck.
Jerry
 
C&R, it is not that the Mark II is a poor unit, but a poor fresh water choice. I have used the Mark II, with success in salt and fresh water, but don't count much on any discrimination, if you wanna still find gold. The unit is ALL METAL, period. It is a PI. Discrimination of some sort is good to have in fresh water, as there is very little degradation of metallic targets, as opposed to salt water. Set the unit up, Volume/Threshold barely audible, Standard Trash Elimination and Discrimination/Elimination at 0. Dig it all, but perhaps after some time, you MAY be able to tell the double beeps of the nails you will be finding and leave those in the ground. Be careful though, because earring, chains and broken rings can also double beep some. I pretty much dug it all, at least in salt water, for 2 years and looked like Pop-Eye, LOL! I used thes units exclusively, for my 1st 2 seasons of water hunting, '04-'05. Great unit.
 
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