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very good video on depth...caint understand it ..But...watch
- Thread starter Ksdirt
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Jason in Enid
Active member
sanjuro said:
Ok lets take these one by one....
1st video, there is no "empty ground" test. He shows us a target on a stick, but does not show that the ground is clear without the target in place. there is no way to see if this was a faked test
2nd video, those depths are far from impressive. I can get those depths with a 6 inch coil
3rd video, is exactly the same as the 2nd. what is that supposed to prove?
4th video, wow, it found a dime sized target at about 6 inches.... yawn.
last video, are you blind? No idea what the "target" was supposed to be but it was on a metal rod! On top of that they couldnt even run the detector stable. They had the ground balance so whacked it was falsing constantly (or else the machine had a seriously bad GB feature).
But please feel free to try again.
I haven't seen anything that's made me go wow, after all its still a VLF and to get past VLF depth to quote my old mate is to the power of 12 or something like that 
which means carrying around a wheel barrow of battery's to go to the next level 
hey its main feature is its weight everything else is available elsewhere.
so for those wanting a light minelab its a win for sure..
AJ
which means carrying around a wheel barrow of battery's to go to the next level hey its main feature is its weight everything else is available elsewhere.
so for those wanting a light minelab its a win for sure..
AJ
sgoss66
Well-known member
amberjack said:I haven't seen anything that's made me go wow, after all its still a VLF and to get past VLF depth to quote my old mate is to the power of 12 or something like that
hey its main feature is its weight everything else is available elsewhere.
so for those wanting a light minelab its a win for sure..
AJ
Well, we don't KNOW if "everything is available elsewhere," as we don't know how much of a technological advance Multi-IQ really is (or isn't), so until we do, that might be a big deal on it's own...
But let's say it's not. Let's say it's just a "capable" simultaneous multifrequency technology.
Then my take on it is this -- YES, to quote you, "everything else is available elsewhere."
But that's part of the attraction, no? This unit appears to take the best attributes of several machines, and rolls them into one.
AT Pro/Max waterproof, but no multi-frequency, and no simultaneous...
Deus multi-frequency (if you buy the extra coils), but no simultaneous...
CTX simultaneous multi-frequency, but not single frequency (particularly no HIGH single frequencies, so it's not good on small gold).
etc. etc. etc.
Anyway, back to the multi-frequency thing...that, as I have said many times, will be the kicker, for me personally. If it's just "ho-hum," then this will be a nice backup machine for me, that will otherwise move temporarily into "first place," at times, in certain scenarios, on certain sites, for certain types of hunting. On the other hand, if Multi-IQ is what they are touting it to be, I guess it is possible that this machine elbows its way into "first place for me," relegating my Explorer to backup duty...
Only time will tell...
Steve
do you have a ctx, deus and a equinox to do comparison vids for us all 
sgoss66
Well-known member
As I said in that other thread, AJ, I have a friend who is one of the best, most experienced detectorists I know; he is an expert with both his CTX and Deus, and he's pondering the idea of giving the Equinox a try, too. He has a site that would be one of the best "test beds" I can possibly imagine...
I will report back in, in several months, with his test results if he ends up trying an Equinox...or, encourage him to do so; I think he has an account here...
Steve
I will report back in, in several months, with his test results if he ends up trying an Equinox...or, encourage him to do so; I think he has an account here...
Steve
not saying its no good just keeping my feet on the ground see a lot of posts where people are expecting a magic wand and I think they maybe disappointed.
I will be happy to trade my Deus and CTX for this detector if it can do what they both do for me, if not then well I don't need it, might try it might not, plenty of time to ponder my decision not getting all out in front of myself here.
just sitting back shooting the breeze and seeing what comes down the road, but one thing that keepings ringing in my ear is its a VLF its not new tech..
but bit of fun anyway seeing peoples thoughts.
AJ
I will be happy to trade my Deus and CTX for this detector if it can do what they both do for me, if not then well I don't need it, might try it might not, plenty of time to ponder my decision not getting all out in front of myself here.
just sitting back shooting the breeze and seeing what comes down the road, but one thing that keepings ringing in my ear is its a VLF its not new tech..
but bit of fun anyway seeing peoples thoughts.
AJ
Yes, VLF is not new tech. However, that isn't to say that we can't find new ways of processing the data that vlf gives us to improve separation, sensitivity and vdi stabiliy, depth and resolution. Data processing power is advancing all the time and I would guess that it is mostly remedial in the metal detecting industry compared to other industries. I suspect we have a ways to go before we have tapped the full potential of vlf detectors. Same goes for PI detectors.
Jason in Enid
Active member
amberjack said:
The internal combustion engine isn't anything new either. It's been around well over a 100 years, yet what is possible with one today wasnt even dreamed of back in the early 1900s. The "new" can be learning ways to make what you have more efficient. The days of a detector making a noise because the magnetic field was disturbed are LOOOOOONG gone. Multi freqs, square waves, harmonics, time sampling have all made huge changes over the old days. Who knows what else minelab has come up with to change how that "old tech" is processed.
gunna have to be some detector to pull stuff out of the flogged out spots around here 
anyway I get it people want to try the new what ever detector, phone, car... so I understand that and it boils down to shoving my hand in my pocket if I want to see how it goes, as a hobby where does it end? as using it for financial gain I 100% do not need another detector to pay off.
all depends on a lot of things being considered when buying a new anything..
I just share where I am at not telling anyone what to do or think..
AJ
anyway I get it people want to try the new what ever detector, phone, car... so I understand that and it boils down to shoving my hand in my pocket if I want to see how it goes, as a hobby where does it end? as using it for financial gain I 100% do not need another detector to pay off.all depends on a lot of things being considered when buying a new anything..
I just share where I am at not telling anyone what to do or think..
AJ