Vaquero or Outlaw? Help!!!

[wildestripe2]

I usually just read all the posts on here and have yet to actually write something. But this honest discussion of the two detectors has been really helpful.

I am very close to buying my first Tesoro (still quite new to the hobby) and the Outlaw is the one I keep coming back to. I actually would prefer not hitting on staples/BB at my stage of the game.

This particular thread finally helped me get a handle on what the trade-offs were between the HOT and uMax line, and in particular the Vaquero vs Outlaw.

By not going for a Vaquero I'll be losing a bit of depth by not being able to Super Tune and losing sensitivity to smaller sub-coin targets. I also shouldn't hit as well on very small gold since it runs at 14kHz.

However with the Outlaw I'll hopefully dig less small sized trash, and hit harder on coins. Being a 10.6kHz unit it might hit better on Canadian clad as well and I have this dream of finding old nickles for some reason . I like that it has a higher audio tone (630Hz) and a true No-Motion All Metal.

Thanks

 

[wheatymike]

I don't know what all you guys are talking about. My Vaquero is no deeper so called "super tuned"?

 

[JimGilmore]

You have to actually have coins that are deeper to realize if the supertuned method works for you

 

[wheatymike]

You have to actually have coins that are deeper to realize if the supertuned method works for you

I am just talking air test.

 

[SpiritRelic]

You have to actually have coins that are deeper to realize if the supertuned method works for you

Do the air test with threshold set to just a hum.Then turn threshold all the way fully clockwise.You should notice a depth increase.The only two current detectors to profit from supertuning are the vaquero and cibola.Try it out.

 

[wheatymike]

You have to actually have coins that are deeper to realize if the supertuned method works for you

Do the air test with threshold set to just a hum.Then turn threshold all the way fully clockwise.You should notice a depth increase.The only two current detectors to profit from supertuning are the vaquero and cibola.Try it out.

I have done this several times. With the threshold maxed out I can't max the sens without it going unstable. Set up with the thershold max and the sens as far as I can run it, I see no appreciable differcnce in depth. If I run my threshold at the one or two oclock position, I can max my sens.

 

[BillF]

Go out in the field and find a good target, turn your sense down from max to 7 or 8. You wont see any appreciable difference. Now turn your thresh up and down. You will see a difference from a whisper to a good signal. In all reality, what do you really care how deep it is? This is about discovery and recovery. If a coin or ring is 4 inches deep and you think its only 2 inches, are you going to stop digging at 2 inches? No, you know you wouldnt, so do whatever it takes to find your treasures. If you just arent comfortable running in supertune, then thats OK.

 

[DigDugNY]

You prolly won't see a difference if your surrounded by too much EMI

 

[Rainyday101]

I will be ordering soon, my mind is made up! Tiger Shark and Outlaw to compliment my silver umax. Three excellent detectors for less than one E-trac! Gunnar and Silver53 videos on the tube won me over on the Outlaw. Half the people posting detector videos on you tube are Morons. Gunnar and Silver53 have the most reputable videos I have seen.

 

[wildestripe2]

I as well just bought an Outlaw ... pick it up tomorrow.

And I agree, 53Silver's videos were *excellent* in helping me make my decision