V3 vs MXT

[wrong way ron]

OK guys I hunt this local school grid out the area picked up a lot of clad ;D using the 6x10DD coil V rated. Here's the question why is it when I go over the same area with my MXT 300 I'm picking up finds that my V3 missed [banghead] I over lap my swings but it seems my MXT was picking up finds my V3 missed

 

[Butch in Colorado]

The MXT does not have the ability to selectively discriminate discreet VDI points along the VDI line. If you were in the coin mode with the V3 you have blocks of vdi numbers that are ignored by the V3 when you detect. I would recommend you scan that same area in a V3 mode that more accurately reflects the detecting condition that the MXT brings to the comparison.

Set your MXT to detect just below nickles and then set the V3 to accept vdi numbers from +15 to +94. Try to set the rx gains on both machines to about the same range. Air test a coin and try to match the maximum depth setting on both detectors. At least get them close, and then go back and make that same comparison and see if the V3 still misses what the MXT does not.

And are you using the same coils to make this comparison? If you are using the coil that came with the MXT 300 verses the 6X10 DD coil, you cannot make an accurate comparison. You will need to detect with the same coils on both machines to make an accurate comparison. Otherwise you cannot have a true and accurate comparison between the two.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Reverse the process and go over an area with the MXT first then the V3. Think you will find the results the same. I've got both detectors. You didn't mention if the ones you were finding the second time were deeper. Tests like this don't always work, I've gone over an area with my MXT and have Nancy go over the same area and find coins. We will hunt a field this spring they have hunted for years with all brands and I'm sure we will find more. Rob

 

[wrong way ron]

I was using my 10DD spectra coil on the MXT in Relic mode gain at +1 +2 Dis at 3.5 to 4 just to read nickels and threshold at slight hum. V3 I was using the 6X10DD coil in coin/jewerly and sometime deep silver I crank the RX to two points above best setting Dis and 85+ and AM at 80 I try to run the V3 as hot as possible. Don't get me wrong I have found lots of find in the area I just don't see how I missed them when I now I covered it with the V. Should I be running this hot or would I get better performance at lower settings. I only tweek the stock programs RX, DIS, AM and bottel cap reject at 2

 

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[TheMarshall]

Ron...a post without definition.

At least define your discrim settings for both machines.

You can only compare two detectors by using BOTH over the same target BEFORE it's been recovered.

Hard work, but the only way to prove a point..........TheMarshall

 

[Butch in Colorado]

n/t

 

[DrJoeprime]

Here's my nickel's worth opinion (and I'm just a lurker on here without a V3).

Perhaps you are much more familiar and comfortable (so far) with the MXT?

HH Joe

 

[Giant056]

There's a lot to be said about the Analog sound verses digital in my opinion. I personally have always liked analog sound because you can hear more than just a beep.

 

[JamesBondaka]

Marshall is right........or you could just bury a couple of coins in your backyard and see what happens.....

 

[cheesehead2]

I've gone over sites with my v3 that I have already gone over with it before and still find coins.
I've noticed that setting ground filter and recovery make big changes as well. Longer recovery = harder hits. Lower filter = slower swing and seems to pick more up if not too trashy.
v3 can really be tweaked.

 

[Taterhead]

Hi All:

I did the *exact same thing* last week with the V3 and MXT. I programmed the V3 to be sounding off on all VDI above 0, mostly-standard coin and jewelry program, 10 high filter, 2 second sweep speed, Freq offset +2, 10dd coil, Rx about 12 Disc around 85, AM around 75, 3 freq. mode, wireless headphones, tracking inhibit on.

I gridded VERY CAREFULLY (but nothing is perfect) about a 25 x 15 section of my favorite ballfied using the v3 digging every target, including trash. I found about 15-20 misc. targets, clad, trash, whatever to about 6". Oh yeah, and a sprinkler system joint. Heh.

I then gridded VERY CAREFULLY the next day (so moisture in ground should have been about the same) with the MXT in coin and jewelry, disc above nail below nickel, gain at +2 and the stock 9.5 concentric. Same sweep speed, tracking set on ground.

(The Marshall- Hows them settings for ya? )

Here's what I found: I got about 10-12 additional targets, but it wasn't because I was "missing spots" almost every find was a deep pulltab (6,7,8 inches) or small foil. There were a few pennies and a dime were fairly shallow and would have sounded off on the V, I just missed them in my pattern.

What does this tell me? The MXT was more sensitive to small items (like very very small, stud earring small, micro slaw small) and that it catches low VDI items that are deep much better...this is true, however, with the V3 spreading its power across three frequencies.

IF I had run the V3 in single frequency mode it would have been a more accurate comparison. I will do this next time.

In the mean time, now I am going to go over the same are with the TDI, which is a discriminating (for the most part) PI. I cant wait!

Taterhead

 

[Taterhead]

Also like the Marshalls idea of hunting the same area twice with items "marked" but in my mind I think I'd be biased because the second time through I would already "see" the targets that were marked and then be more likely to ID them. Probably going to do that anyway, just to see.

If anybody has any more suggestions to make the machines more equal, i'm interested. Maybe I should use the 9.5 concentric or the D2 on both machines? I just wanted to see the differences with stock machines but I do want them to be on equal footing.

Then there's the question of "boost" on the V3. Hmmmm.



Taterhead

 

[hang7575]

Been hunting a new site this week that is totally surrounded by electic fences,each field and pasture has elelectic fence. Hunted there a couple hours first 2 days with the v3, after being drove nuts by the beep every 3 secs to the never ending button pushing to try and find a happy medium I gave up and came back with my MXT next day. Was able to run max sensitivity and did not get the fence beeps till about 10 ft away. I found this nice Civil War navy button about 10 yds from the fence. The V3 would of also found this but at the price of beep insanity. I have had the V for 1 year now and know it well. Just goes to show some machines will work better in some situations