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V3 depth another fix?
- Thread starter redbird
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I had read somewhere that the V3 is or was tuned to the stock 10" DD coil. My experiences are that with the stock 10" DD coil (which I prefer and use the most) is usually pretty dead on target for depth 95% of the time. I also have and use the 950 coil and its close but not as good as the 10" DD. I also use the 4X6 DD and I find its way off on target depth at times.
I also think because I like and use the 10" DD the most I relate to it better. I believe the more you use and understand a coil the better you get with it. Also I have to tweak the program I'm running to the coil I'm using at that time.
This is my experiences and each person can and will do things differently.
I also think because I like and use the 10" DD the most I relate to it better. I believe the more you use and understand a coil the better you get with it. Also I have to tweak the program I'm running to the coil I'm using at that time.
This is my experiences and each person can and will do things differently.
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
You must also make sure the target is dead center in the middle of the coil and start your pin pointing off to the side of the target in clean ground and then move your coil over the target. I have noticed the pin point depth is more accurate than the live screen depth.
I can't figure out which is a good target the quarters, dimes ,nickels, most of the time it is reading like a shallow target I went a little lower than factory specs with all metal, disc and Rx gain went as high as I can go with no chatter still recieving them 0's like they were shallow until I dug and found out its depper than what its reading
Any help would be appreciated
Any help would be appreciated
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
When you have shallow targets, raise the loop off of the ground a couple of inches when pinpointing and see if that helps with the true depth. Also, if you have a coil cover on, be sure it is clean...that will affect depth readings too.
Could you be talking about the depth during the search screen mode? Those depths aren't very close mostly. For me, the other things that can mess with accurate depth is shallow foil, iron with a prominent vertical mass, large aluminum. Never coins...? What program have you been running and what settings? For all those coils to be acting the same way...bet it'll be easy to figure out why.
Sorry for my last, less than helpful post but punched it out in a rush and missed your posting about it being with coins specifically.
Sorry for my last, less than helpful post but punched it out in a rush and missed your posting about it being with coins specifically.
The depth that I am in conflict with is the pinpoint , when target is found, depth is reading at 0 ,when target is being dugged up it is more than what the pinpoint mode is telling me and this is alot of times so it does become confusing to be able to determine a good target I am not able to really figure out if I should dig or not .
I went to another forum and I see that there is someone else experiencing the same problem , but the only thing is that I forgot to write down the subject , but since I seen his, I have not seen any answer to his problem I am running beach coin coin jewlery silver and pro
I went to another forum and I see that there is someone else experiencing the same problem , but the only thing is that I forgot to write down the subject , but since I seen his, I have not seen any answer to his problem I am running beach coin coin jewlery silver and pro
Hate to just jump to "Give Whites a call." but....there should be no reason for a properly functioning machine to be running consistantly that much too shallow on a depth reading. Check to see if something is set up through the use of "Common" that is doing a bad tweak to all those programs or try restore and if that obvious stuff doesn't solve it...call.
Usually a machine works or it doesn't. I imagine a bad calibration could happen but seems unlikely. Whites will get you handled quick. I check out machines frequently and usually find that it is usually user ignorance at fault. Yours just doesn't sound like that is the case. Call 'em...they are great to work with.
Usually a machine works or it doesn't. I imagine a bad calibration could happen but seems unlikely. Whites will get you handled quick. I check out machines frequently and usually find that it is usually user ignorance at fault. Yours just doesn't sound like that is the case. Call 'em...they are great to work with.
I did the common setup and used a penny to see what it reads >> A penny at 6 inches will read at 2 inches a penny at 4 inches will read 0 I did the reset for all programs and still have the same results . The machine seems to run correctly but the depth issue really drives me nuts
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
This sounds like you need to go to plan B..........Hello White's.............
Jason in TN
New member
Sounds like you need to maybe send your V3 in for a look from Whites.
Jason
Jason
I picked this up in another forum This sounds very familiar to what my complaint is Read on thanks
I used my standard settings, RXGain=15, desc=95 and it seemed a little eratic so I backed the RXG down a few notches and it stabilized. Pinpointing was spot on and it was quite easy to separate targets, that is what I like about concentrics. It seemed to be more sensitive than the 5.3 but the low depth readings kept bothering me. I finally got a target at 7-1/2 inches that kept jumping to 5-1/4 and the VDI was bouncing back and forth between +71 and the low 20's. I dug down as far as my Lesche would go and was about to give up when Tommie, who was hunting near by, saw my plight and brought his shovel over. He dug several more shovel fulls out and got a piece of aluminum out of the bottom of the hole. My Propointer showed that there was still something in the hole so he went deeper and hit a beavertail pull tab. We measured the hole at about 13 inches.
But the only thing with my machine is that I never even seen my detector pinpoint to 7 inches it read 2 and I had the ame similar problems trying to find the target
I used my standard settings, RXGain=15, desc=95 and it seemed a little eratic so I backed the RXG down a few notches and it stabilized. Pinpointing was spot on and it was quite easy to separate targets, that is what I like about concentrics. It seemed to be more sensitive than the 5.3 but the low depth readings kept bothering me. I finally got a target at 7-1/2 inches that kept jumping to 5-1/4 and the VDI was bouncing back and forth between +71 and the low 20's. I dug down as far as my Lesche would go and was about to give up when Tommie, who was hunting near by, saw my plight and brought his shovel over. He dug several more shovel fulls out and got a piece of aluminum out of the bottom of the hole. My Propointer showed that there was still something in the hole so he went deeper and hit a beavertail pull tab. We measured the hole at about 13 inches.
But the only thing with my machine is that I never even seen my detector pinpoint to 7 inches it read 2 and I had the ame similar problems trying to find the target
Ok guys I am sure now that I am not the only one with this problem ....Here are some more post from other forums...
Hi,
I was out at the beach yesterday and still can't seem to get the correct depth when I am pinpointing.
If the target is 4" or under it always reads 0 or 1/4" if its down 4" to 6" its says 1.5". I ran it for an hour and then went back and got my DFX and the pinpoint depth was right on. If it said 4" I move away 3.5" of sand and scoop 1" and the coin is there. If it said 1" I just need to skim 1" and so on.
Are there any settings that affect the depth reading? I am using the 950 V rated coil, it acts the same with the Super 12. (I don't have the DD anymore)
I also have the problem with the red bars in another post.
I keep going back to my DFX, anyone in the Pa/NJ area (that is using a V3 sucessfully) that can spare sometime?
More keep reading
My machine very frequently (like 80% of the time) reports coin-sized targets at 4-5 inches that are nearly always within the first inch or two, whether I am at the beach, on land, or wherever. This includes modern clad and, of course, pulltabs.
This problem occurs both in pinpoint mode and search mode.
I am also having some trouble with depth, so if you could, answer me this: Can your machine see a quarter in dry sand, at say 10 inches? What is your "air test" on an object that is quarter size? Is the search depth reading reasonably accurate? Maybe its an adjustment problem, but even after tweaking Rx gain, Disc sensitivity, etc. mine has trouble with these.
I'm starting to wonder if whatever is causing the depth readings to be off could also be contributing to a depth problem overall? For example, if the signal received was weaker than it should be, would the target be reported as further away? And if this is the case, would the signal from a target that was actually far away (say, an 8 inch quarter) actually come back to the machine so weak that it would not pick it up?
I know that your depth problem is different, the machine is seeing the item as "closer" than it is, while mine sees it as "more distant"
Whites has mentioned calibration/balancing problems to a few people on the phone, perhaps you and I are seeing the symptoms of this?
I called todd and yet to recieve any word on this Now I know that it is not only me!!!
Hi,
I was out at the beach yesterday and still can't seem to get the correct depth when I am pinpointing.
If the target is 4" or under it always reads 0 or 1/4" if its down 4" to 6" its says 1.5". I ran it for an hour and then went back and got my DFX and the pinpoint depth was right on. If it said 4" I move away 3.5" of sand and scoop 1" and the coin is there. If it said 1" I just need to skim 1" and so on.
Are there any settings that affect the depth reading? I am using the 950 V rated coil, it acts the same with the Super 12. (I don't have the DD anymore)
I also have the problem with the red bars in another post.
I keep going back to my DFX, anyone in the Pa/NJ area (that is using a V3 sucessfully) that can spare sometime?
More keep reading
My machine very frequently (like 80% of the time) reports coin-sized targets at 4-5 inches that are nearly always within the first inch or two, whether I am at the beach, on land, or wherever. This includes modern clad and, of course, pulltabs.
This problem occurs both in pinpoint mode and search mode.
I am also having some trouble with depth, so if you could, answer me this: Can your machine see a quarter in dry sand, at say 10 inches? What is your "air test" on an object that is quarter size? Is the search depth reading reasonably accurate? Maybe its an adjustment problem, but even after tweaking Rx gain, Disc sensitivity, etc. mine has trouble with these.
I'm starting to wonder if whatever is causing the depth readings to be off could also be contributing to a depth problem overall? For example, if the signal received was weaker than it should be, would the target be reported as further away? And if this is the case, would the signal from a target that was actually far away (say, an 8 inch quarter) actually come back to the machine so weak that it would not pick it up?
I know that your depth problem is different, the machine is seeing the item as "closer" than it is, while mine sees it as "more distant"
Whites has mentioned calibration/balancing problems to a few people on the phone, perhaps you and I are seeing the symptoms of this?
I called todd and yet to recieve any word on this Now I know that it is not only me!!!
Ok guys I am sure now that I am not the only one with this problem ....Here are some more post from other forums...
Hi,
I was out at the beach yesterday and still can't seem to get the correct depth when I am pinpointing.
If the target is 4" or under it always reads 0 or 1/4" if its down 4" to 6" its says 1.5". I ran it for an hour and then went back and got my DFX and the pinpoint depth was right on. If it said 4" I move away 3.5" of sand and scoop 1" and the coin is there. If it said 1" I just need to skim 1" and so on.
Are there any settings that affect the depth reading? I am using the 950 V rated coil, it acts the same with the Super 12. (I don't have the DD anymore)
I also have the problem with the red bars in another post.
I keep going back to my DFX, anyone in the Pa/NJ area (that is using a V3 sucessfully) that can spare sometime?
More keep reading
My machine very frequently (like 80% of the time) reports coin-sized targets at 4-5 inches that are nearly always within the first inch or two, whether I am at the beach, on land, or wherever. This includes modern clad and, of course, pulltabs.
This problem occurs both in pinpoint mode and search mode.
I am also having some trouble with depth, so if you could, answer me this: Can your machine see a quarter in dry sand, at say 10 inches? What is your "air test" on an object that is quarter size? Is the search depth reading reasonably accurate? Maybe its an adjustment problem, but even after tweaking Rx gain, Disc sensitivity, etc. mine has trouble with these.
I'm starting to wonder if whatever is causing the depth readings to be off could also be contributing to a depth problem overall? For example, if the signal received was weaker than it should be, would the target be reported as further away? And if this is the case, would the signal from a target that was actually far away (say, an 8 inch quarter) actually come back to the machine so weak that it would not pick it up?
I know that your depth problem is different, the machine is seeing the item as "closer" than it is, while mine sees it as "more distant"
Whites has mentioned calibration/balancing problems to a few people on the phone, perhaps you and I are seeing the symptoms of this?
I called todd and yet to recieve any word on this Now I know that it is not only me!!!
Hi,
I was out at the beach yesterday and still can't seem to get the correct depth when I am pinpointing.
If the target is 4" or under it always reads 0 or 1/4" if its down 4" to 6" its says 1.5". I ran it for an hour and then went back and got my DFX and the pinpoint depth was right on. If it said 4" I move away 3.5" of sand and scoop 1" and the coin is there. If it said 1" I just need to skim 1" and so on.
Are there any settings that affect the depth reading? I am using the 950 V rated coil, it acts the same with the Super 12. (I don't have the DD anymore)
I also have the problem with the red bars in another post.
I keep going back to my DFX, anyone in the Pa/NJ area (that is using a V3 sucessfully) that can spare sometime?
More keep reading
My machine very frequently (like 80% of the time) reports coin-sized targets at 4-5 inches that are nearly always within the first inch or two, whether I am at the beach, on land, or wherever. This includes modern clad and, of course, pulltabs.
This problem occurs both in pinpoint mode and search mode.
I am also having some trouble with depth, so if you could, answer me this: Can your machine see a quarter in dry sand, at say 10 inches? What is your "air test" on an object that is quarter size? Is the search depth reading reasonably accurate? Maybe its an adjustment problem, but even after tweaking Rx gain, Disc sensitivity, etc. mine has trouble with these.
I'm starting to wonder if whatever is causing the depth readings to be off could also be contributing to a depth problem overall? For example, if the signal received was weaker than it should be, would the target be reported as further away? And if this is the case, would the signal from a target that was actually far away (say, an 8 inch quarter) actually come back to the machine so weak that it would not pick it up?
I know that your depth problem is different, the machine is seeing the item as "closer" than it is, while mine sees it as "more distant"
Whites has mentioned calibration/balancing problems to a few people on the phone, perhaps you and I are seeing the symptoms of this?
I called todd and yet to recieve any word on this Now I know that it is not only me!!!