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Urgent help for saving my vacation - New White spectra v3 detect every time
- Thread starter lavoiejr
- Start date
Several things:
Concrete usually has metal rebar reinforcement throughout. This is either rods or mesh, and either one will drive your detector nuts. Take it outside for testing.
Of course it makes no noise with the coil detached -- there's no signal for it to work with at all.
If you have a coil cover on, take it off (just to make sure there's nothing in it that might be causing trouble).
If you have another compatible coil, try it.
As has already been suggested, do a factory restore on the program(s) you want to use, back off the sensitivity and see if you can stabilize it. If you can't, then you may need to have the unit serviced.
You said it runs quiet in the common mode, so why not run it in that mode? Yes, it's less sensitive in that mode, but if you can't get it to run stable in the other modes, it beats not hunting at all, until you can get it serviced.
Concrete usually has metal rebar reinforcement throughout. This is either rods or mesh, and either one will drive your detector nuts. Take it outside for testing.
Of course it makes no noise with the coil detached -- there's no signal for it to work with at all.
If you have a coil cover on, take it off (just to make sure there's nothing in it that might be causing trouble).
If you have another compatible coil, try it.
As has already been suggested, do a factory restore on the program(s) you want to use, back off the sensitivity and see if you can stabilize it. If you can't, then you may need to have the unit serviced.
You said it runs quiet in the common mode, so why not run it in that mode? Yes, it's less sensitive in that mode, but if you can't get it to run stable in the other modes, it beats not hunting at all, until you can get it serviced.
I notice also that when you first turn it on it is running stable did you check which program that was? Any way go to the common program and copy the numbers in the sensitivity Then choose let say" salt beach" go to sensitivity and use the numbers that you copied from the common program and see what happens . if it stables out start increasing till the machine starts to go bonkers when it does lower till your stable, Are you reading the manual ?
Andy Sabisch
Active member
It is understandable that LAVOIEJR is frustrated with a new detector that is acting up. Many of us have sent him ideas or suggestions . . . but a few points to take away from this:
1) Buying a brand new detector and not having any detecting experience before a vacation - and especially a high end detector such as the V3 or others - is tempting Murphy;s Law . . . "If something will go wrong, it will at the most inopportune time" which seems like what happened here. Issues on a holiday weekend in the US . . . perfect timing! I would never get a new machine - even with the time I have under my belt - to take on a trip without being able to fully test it before leaving.
2) The issue sounds like what others have experienced in terms of a bad coil. I had one myself. But buying it mail order (OK, there may not have been a local dealer but then the question of how it was purchased with Whites policy on face-to-face sales) now leaves him with a detector that does not work for what he sees as unknown reasons. Being able to swap out a coil - even if just to test it - would at least narrow down the problem. I PM'd him and suggested that he try to find a user in the area that has another Whites where he could check the coil . . . . post a "Looking for a Whites User Near XXXXX, Canada" or go to the Lost Treasure Magazine website and use the "Find a Buddy" feature . . . . even a short drive to pinpoint the problem would make things more palatable.
3) LAVOIEJR is probably trying to get a quick fix over the weekend but if he calls Whites Monday, I am certain that one of the technicians will be able to get a better idea of what the problem might be and come up with a fix. I think we can all agree that Whites has about the best customer support and if there is something wrong with the unit, they WILL take care of it period!
Hope he gets the issue resolved but there are too many unknowns in the video he posted . . . . testing a detector inside the way he shows it is never a good idea and who knows what other adjustments were made trying to correct the issue . . as many suggested, RESTORE to preset and start from a known point - which is exactly what Whites will have him do if he calls on Monday.
Once I got mine working 100%, it is an amazing piece of equipment,
Andy Sabsich
1) Buying a brand new detector and not having any detecting experience before a vacation - and especially a high end detector such as the V3 or others - is tempting Murphy;s Law . . . "If something will go wrong, it will at the most inopportune time" which seems like what happened here. Issues on a holiday weekend in the US . . . perfect timing! I would never get a new machine - even with the time I have under my belt - to take on a trip without being able to fully test it before leaving.
2) The issue sounds like what others have experienced in terms of a bad coil. I had one myself. But buying it mail order (OK, there may not have been a local dealer but then the question of how it was purchased with Whites policy on face-to-face sales) now leaves him with a detector that does not work for what he sees as unknown reasons. Being able to swap out a coil - even if just to test it - would at least narrow down the problem. I PM'd him and suggested that he try to find a user in the area that has another Whites where he could check the coil . . . . post a "Looking for a Whites User Near XXXXX, Canada" or go to the Lost Treasure Magazine website and use the "Find a Buddy" feature . . . . even a short drive to pinpoint the problem would make things more palatable.
3) LAVOIEJR is probably trying to get a quick fix over the weekend but if he calls Whites Monday, I am certain that one of the technicians will be able to get a better idea of what the problem might be and come up with a fix. I think we can all agree that Whites has about the best customer support and if there is something wrong with the unit, they WILL take care of it period!
Hope he gets the issue resolved but there are too many unknowns in the video he posted . . . . testing a detector inside the way he shows it is never a good idea and who knows what other adjustments were made trying to correct the issue . . as many suggested, RESTORE to preset and start from a known point - which is exactly what Whites will have him do if he calls on Monday.
Once I got mine working 100%, it is an amazing piece of equipment,
Andy Sabsich
I did somes others test this after noon and i did a anorther clip.
First i went outside far of my house in a field with nothing except grass.
I reset all the program before i begin.
You can see how the detector is: I did probe test as suggest in forum.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqgTQLgEuE[/video]
Not in the video:
I did others test with sensitivity decrease but i don't think normal to decrease so much for than this detector do not panic (unstable).
Sensitivity Coin and jewellery 1,2 Stable, 3 and more = unstable, default 7.
Sensitivity Meteorite 1,2 stable, 3 and more = unstable, default 12
Sensitivity Commun 1,2,3 stable, i don't know more, default 2
Glossary :Sensitivity The depth at which a metal detector can register metal objects. Full sensitivity can be used for best depth but, is not recommended. It is often beneficial to turn the sensitivity down in order to match the conditions of a site.
I tested it before under my gazebo ok in aluminium is not the nice place to test, in my basement ok is not a nice place, in my grass court is acceptable as place, in the beach with fresh water is acceptable for testing and 60 feet of my house on grass is acceptable and for finishing 10 km of nowhere in a field in very nice condition. the detector did the same thing everywhere, it was very too sensitive or i suppose BAD COIL, the suggestion of many hunter.
If someone check my video and said to me, than his V3 do like this with the default setting and than is normal, correct for hunting. I don't know how he does to detect something.
Ok I appreciated your suggestion and thankyou everybodies, Tomorrow i will receive contact and info by my dealer. I post update of this soon
Unstable = Beep anytime
First i went outside far of my house in a field with nothing except grass.
I reset all the program before i begin.
You can see how the detector is: I did probe test as suggest in forum.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqgTQLgEuE[/video]
Not in the video:
I did others test with sensitivity decrease but i don't think normal to decrease so much for than this detector do not panic (unstable).
Sensitivity Coin and jewellery 1,2 Stable, 3 and more = unstable, default 7.
Sensitivity Meteorite 1,2 stable, 3 and more = unstable, default 12
Sensitivity Commun 1,2,3 stable, i don't know more, default 2
Glossary :Sensitivity The depth at which a metal detector can register metal objects. Full sensitivity can be used for best depth but, is not recommended. It is often beneficial to turn the sensitivity down in order to match the conditions of a site.
I tested it before under my gazebo ok in aluminium is not the nice place to test, in my basement ok is not a nice place, in my grass court is acceptable as place, in the beach with fresh water is acceptable for testing and 60 feet of my house on grass is acceptable and for finishing 10 km of nowhere in a field in very nice condition. the detector did the same thing everywhere, it was very too sensitive or i suppose BAD COIL, the suggestion of many hunter.
If someone check my video and said to me, than his V3 do like this with the default setting and than is normal, correct for hunting. I don't know how he does to detect something.
Ok I appreciated your suggestion and thankyou everybodies, Tomorrow i will receive contact and info by my dealer. I post update of this soon
Unstable = Beep anytime
Andy Sabisch said:It is understandable that LAVOIEJR is frustrated with a new detector that is acting up. Many of us have sent him ideas or suggestions . . . but a few points to take away from this:
1) Buying a brand new detector and not having any detecting experience before a vacation - and especially a high end detector such as the V3 or others - is tempting Murphy;s Law . . . "If something will go wrong, it will at the most inopportune time" which seems like what happened here. Issues on a holiday weekend in the US . . . perfect timing! I would never get a new machine - even with the time I have under my belt - to take on a trip without being able to fully test it before leaving.
2) The issue sounds like what others have experienced in terms of a bad coil. I had one myself. But buying it mail order (OK, there may not have been a local dealer but then the question of how it was purchased with Whites policy on face-to-face sales) now leaves him with a detector that does not work for what he sees as unknown reasons. Being able to swap out a coil - even if just to test it - would at least narrow down the problem. I PM'd him and suggested that he try to find a user in the area that has another Whites where he could check the coil . . . . post a "Looking for a Whites User Near XXXXX, Canada" or go to the Lost Treasure Magazine website and use the "Find a Buddy" feature . . . . even a short drive to pinpoint the problem would make things more palatable.
3) LAVOIEJR is probably trying to get a quick fix over the weekend but if he calls Whites Monday, I am certain that one of the technicians will be able to get a better idea of what the problem might be and come up with a fix. I think we can all agree that Whites has about the best customer support and if there is something wrong with the unit, they WILL take care of it period!
Hope he gets the issue resolved but there are too many unknowns in the video he posted . . . . testing a detector inside the way he shows it is never a good idea and who knows what other adjustments were made trying to correct the issue . . as many suggested, RESTORE to preset and start from a known point - which is exactly what Whites will have him do if he calls on Monday.
Once I got mine working 100%, it is an amazing piece of equipment,
Andy Sabsich
One other possibility to try is to change filter settings. Coin and Jewelry come default with a filter setting of 10Hz High ( = high pass). Using the 10Hz Band (= band pass) filter may get rid of some of the higher frequency noise if running into EMI problems. No guarantee that this will solve it, but one more thing to try. Or try using the other frequency filters. Perhaps the noise won't be in the frequency band for the other filters. Again, no guarantee.
(Expert menu/Filter & Speed/Search/Ground filter)
Does the detector sound off if you tap the coil?
(Expert menu/Filter & Speed/Search/Ground filter)
Does the detector sound off if you tap the coil?
Nice suggestion i appreciate, i try it tomorrow.
ak_1234 said:One other possibility to try is to change filter settings. Coin and Jewelry come default with a filter setting of 10Hz High ( = high pass). Using the 10Hz Band (= band pass) filter may get rid of some of the higher frequency noise if running into EMI problems. No guarantee that this will solve it, but one more thing to try. Or try using the other frequency filters. Perhaps the noise won't be in the frequency band for the other filters. Again, no guarantee.
(Expert menu/Filter & Speed/Search/Ground filter)
Does the detector sound off if you tap the coil?
Ok the tx boost is off
khouse said:Under sensitivity. Make sure your TX boost is off. Then reduce your discrimination sensitivity to 70 and try again.
when Outside and away from all sources of EMI select your program, grd balance as you described and if the machine is unstable go to sensitivity and lower your RX gain by 3 ... grd balance and if still unstable lower it again and re grd balance. continue this process till you machine becomes stable even if you get down to a setting of 1-2 or 3 on Rx Gain. If still unstable start lowering your Disc sensitivity till you get stable.
Do not try this inside, on top of concrete, wood patios, concrete driveways, over underground power lines, under overhead powerlines, etc...., Detectors are made to search over dirt, clay, or sand testing it over anything else will give you problems. Trying to use it indoors is just asking for EMI issues.... there are electric lines all over a house, nails, metal edge guards, etc......
at 2:18 on your video it looks like you are standing on concrete swinging the V3...... also where are the power lines for your property and where do they run along the road?
Do not try this inside, on top of concrete, wood patios, concrete driveways, over underground power lines, under overhead powerlines, etc...., Detectors are made to search over dirt, clay, or sand testing it over anything else will give you problems. Trying to use it indoors is just asking for EMI issues.... there are electric lines all over a house, nails, metal edge guards, etc......
at 2:18 on your video it looks like you are standing on concrete swinging the V3...... also where are the power lines for your property and where do they run along the road?
thebeatmachine
Member
White's has the best customer service, so use the Warranty.
That same EXACT behavior has happened to me twice. The first time it was directly attributable to a bad coil and the second time...unknown EMI? (Went back to the same spot next day, and no issue...same settings.) Are there any military or commercial sources, for external EMI, in the area? If not...still heavily suspect...bad coil.