Urgent help for saving my vacation - New White spectra v3 detect every time

[lavoiejr]

Urgent help for saving my vacation - New White spectra v3 detect every time

Hello

I did buy a White Spectra v3 June 29 2009

Before I receive it, I read the manual instruction and I looked the videos on your website.
I received it, I assembled it.
first
I select exemple the program coin and jewellery. I did a ground balance as the video instruction and when i sweep with it or do nothing with it, the detector do sound and detect many things every time like a very confuse equipment. I don't think it's normal. It's impossible to find something with it in this condition. I should to dig every time.
What can i do. Suggest me.



I put a video of my problem on the web for you, see it at the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM92NHvVejc
thanks for every body and excuse my english

 

[robertk]

I couldn't see the video, but from your description, it sounds like the sensitivity is set too high, or you're getting a lot of interference. In either case, you can probably stop it by turning the RX gain down. You can do so from the search screen -- just hit the right arrow until "sensitivity" is highlighted, then hit "Zoom". That will bring up the sensitivity setting, with the first one being the RX gain. Hit the left arrow to turn it down a few notches, then pull the trigger to go back to searching.

 

[lavoiejr]

Ok i reduced the rx gain of "sensitivity", i tried at 1, 2, 3, 5 and it's not satisfy me the detector bip anytime for nothing.

 

[Downdeep]

is the cable connection tight? try loading the common program and see if it quiets. That program was designed to test the detector as far as I know and runs quite quiet in my house

 

[lavoiejr]

The connection is tight.

First test

I did a test . i put on the floor 2 bracelets of silver .925, two feets of distance and prepare my detector. i put it on Coin program, i did a ground balance. and i sweep my floor.I did sweep 15 times in walking. 15 beep and i did sweep only 2 times over the bracelet. No difference in the sound (beep) when i pass over the bracelet or beside it. when i analyse it, the accuracy probability 9%, VDI number +3,and 4 1/2 inch. WOW!!! the coil touch it. Probability 9% Wooow. it's a bracelet of silver the coil touch it at 1mm of it.


2rd TEST

I loaded the "Commun" program and the detector is quiet in STOP MOTION but if i sweep in the floor i have somes Beep for nothing. for 15 sweep 2 good over the objets and 4 bads Beeps.

I'm very confuse.

 

[Jason in TN]

Take it outside. Are there nails in the floor or other metal?

 

[lavoiejr]

Excuse me but i'm in the basement no nail or other thing except concret. and in my video you see, i'm outside on block of ciment, pav

 

[jbow]

Look for another hunter in the area. See if there is a local shop that sells detectors. Ask the people where you are if there are any hunters in the ara who might be able to help you.

Hope you get it working.

J

 

[redbird]

First thing you do put it on common try that first and test it with coins and jewlery, then get away form your basement even though you say its concrete you never know what they covered over it,it looks like there are many things that might be metallic even though its a dark video common sense tells me you have many items in there. Also it looks like your in a crowded neighborhood with many electrical pick ups and dish pick ups. You also look like you are in some kind of welding booth Do your self a favor and go to a park and try doing that over there then see if you need help.Seems like you are trying to pull a fast one there

 

[Willee - Texas]

Flooring has metal in it.
Concrete has metal rebar in it ... get out somewhere there is grass.
Go to a park and try it.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

Do you know of anyone that has another V3, XLT, DFX or MXT? If so, see if you can borrow the coil from their detector and see if that corrects the problem. A bad coil could cause what you are seeing.

Another thing is electrical interference. There may be issues from lighting, radio transmissions or other interference you are picking up. I had a similar reaction to a power line going out to a pier I walked underneath.

As some have suggested, take the detector to a different location - outside of the structure and see what happens. Use the Ground Probe option to see what the detector recommends for RX Gain . . . .

If I were betting on a solution, I would say interference first followed by a coil issue. Did you get it from a local dealer that could let you try a different coil?

Let us know what you come up with . . . . when you get it working as it should, you will be more than satisfied with the results

Andy Sabisch

 

[lavoiejr]

i know but before i test it on the basement in the room of my computer. i test it on the grass 3 times, on a beach, on my patio of rock block in the video. And i tried in different program "coin","coin and jewellery", "prospecting", "commun" all the same problem except with "commun". There is less crazy in basement.

 

[lavoiejr]

Ok I do. this morning i try to hunt at the beach for my first time and i had this problem and stop my trip and return at home.


Ok i return outside very far of my house on the grass nothing inside 60 feets. I tested it.
For my test a silver bracelet .925 and a gold necklace on the distance 3 feet.

On/off, i select program "Coin and jewellery" I balance the coil with the ground (trigger,"enter" and i loop the coil up and down, remove "enter" remove trigger) same thing the detector is crazy. he beep for nothing. Over the bracelet the detector Beep but the detector beep every where too. I tested it with the program "prospecting" same problem with the necklace.

I tested it with the program "commun" at the same place, the detector seem quiet an no sound. I don't have the necklace and bracelet for this test.

Weather: the grass is wet, i don't know it was a problem. but i tried.

 

[lavoiejr]

Do you know of anyone that has another V3, XLT, DFX or MXT? If so, see if you can borrow the coil from their detector and see if that corrects the problem. A bad coil could cause what you are seeing.

Another thing is electrical interference. There may be issues from lighting, radio transmissions or other interference you are picking up. I had a similar reaction to a power line going out to a pier I walked underneath.

As some have suggested, take the detector to a different location - outside of the structure and see what happens. Use the Ground Probe option to see what the detector recommends for RX Gain . . . .

If I were betting on a solution, I would say interference first followed by a coil issue. Did you get it from a local dealer that could let you try a different coil?

Let us know what you come up with . . . . when you get it working as it should, you will be more than satisfied with the results

Andy Sabisch

I ordered on the web, no a local dealer. I'm alone in this hobby because i'm beginner. this morning i tried to hunt at the beach for my first time and i had this problem and stop my trip and return at home. I paid for fast shipping for great hunting during my vacation. i'm very frustrate by this situation #&(()%?$.

Interference i don't think, it's probably the coil. When i unplug the coil the detector is stable, no sound and seem correct but it cannot detect something.

 

[lavoiejr]

First thing you do put it on common try that first and test it with coins and jewlery, then get away form your basement even though you say its concrete you never know what they covered over it,it looks like there are many things that might be metallic even though its a dark video common sense tells me you have many items in there. Also it looks like your in a crowded neighborhood with many electrical pick ups and dish pick ups. You also look like you are in some kind of welding booth Do your self a favor and go to a park and try doing that over there then see if you need help.Seems like you are trying to pull a fast one there

Ok I do. this morning i try to hunt at the beach for my first time and i had this problem and stop my trip and return at home.


Ok i return outside very far of my house on the grass nothing inside 60 feets. I tested it.
For my test a silver bracelet .925 and a gold necklace on the distance 3 feet.

On/off, i select program "Coin and jewellery" I balance the coil with the ground (trigger,"enter" and i loop the coil up and down, remove "enter" remove trigger) same thing the detector is crazy. he beep for nothing. Over the bracelet the detector Beep but the detector beep every where too. I tested it with the program "prospecting" same problem with the necklace.

I tested it with the program "commun" at the same place, the detector seem quiet an no sound. I don't have the necklace and bracelet for this test.

Weather: the grass is wet, i don't know it was a problem. but i tried

 

[Andy Sabisch]

If you are able to try a different coil and confirm it is the issue, you can get it replaced no problem. Even if you order another coil - a 950 or 5.3 say, you will have a functioning detector and get the DD replaced thru Whites.

Take a deep breath - it may be frustrating but that's the problem sometimes buying long distance . . . . when you get it corrected you will be happy

 

[Downdeep]

If it is quiet in the common program outside, the detector is running too sensitive in the other programs and picking up interference. From what I understand the common program is a very mild program that was originally set up to be able to demonstrate and test the unit indoors where there is a lot of interference. Choose your coin and jewlery program and ground balance. Back the discrimination sensitivity and gain back down. I'd start with gain at about 3 and discrimination sens. about 25. See if that is quiet. Bring them up slowly, starting with the discrim sensitivity, then the gain. If all else fails there are some other options that can be tried such as frequency offset, etc. but those are advanced options that would be difficult to explain, at least by me. The V3, though an incredible machine, is definitly not a beginners detector in an instance where a lot of adjustments are needed for stable operation.

Depending on what and how many changes you have made to the coin and jewelry program, you may want to restore that to the factory original and then start again just in case some of the chansed you made are amplifying the problem instead of helping.

 

[Downdeep]

I also just caught that you said you were hunting on a beach.... salt water or fresh water? If salt water, use the salt water program instead or add the salt compensation to the coin/jewelry

 

[teckpro]

May be a bad /defective coil /loop.

 

[lavoiejr]

I'm able to change the frequency offset, i understand how.
I'm able to change setting of the program and return it to original default.
I try tomorrow your suggestion, i appreciate
thank

If it is quiet in the common program outside, the detector is running too sensitive in the other programs and picking up interference. From what I understand the common program is a very mild program that was originally set up to be able to demonstrate and test the unit indoors where there is a lot of interference. Choose your coin and jewlery program and ground balance. Back the discrimination sensitivity and gain back down. I'd start with gain at about 3 and discrimination sens. about 25. See if that is quiet. Bring them up slowly, starting with the discrim sensitivity, then the gain. If all else fails there are some other options that can be tried such as frequency offset, etc. but those are advanced options that would be difficult to explain, at least by me. The V3, though an incredible machine, is definitly not a beginners detector in an instance where a lot of adjustments are needed for stable operation.

Depending on what and how many changes you have made to the coin and jewelry program, you may want to restore that to the factory original and then start again just in case some of the chansed you made are amplifying the problem instead of helping.