detectin4fun
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Local tot lots are putting up No Trespassing signs ! Only authorized personnel. Is this legal?
Anyone else seeing this happening?
Anyone else seeing this happening?
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tot lots off limits
- Thread starter detectin4fun
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That's really bizarre???? I wonder if they posted that to authorize some people to ask druggies & and other undesirables to leave.
I'm seeing some that are fenced in and locked - guess someone is supposed come by to open them in the morning and lock them shut at days end. Seen one a couple weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon still locked. There was a locked fence around the tot lot and a locked fence around the entire park. So it would take 2 barriers to get to the tot lot. I didn't pay attention to any signs so I guess I'll have to look next time. I couldn't even pull into the parking lot because of a big steel pole swing gate, and couldn't impede traffic, so didn't gaze at the signs by the gate.
Also some schools are fenced in, some completely around the outer perimeter, and lately noticed the same at a couple church's. The wife says our local library is fenced in. The fencing companies around here must be doing alright.
Also some schools are fenced in, some completely around the outer perimeter, and lately noticed the same at a couple church's. The wife says our local library is fenced in. The fencing companies around here must be doing alright.
Joel-Winnipeg
New member
Unfortunately a few people have ruined it for the decent folks that use these places,
Just like in school in the lower grades, one screws up the whole class pays.
Check with city hall and see why they decided to take these measures.
I doubt that it was the detectors they were trying to keep out.
If it is , show them a bag full of junk that you dig up (especially the pointed and sharp ones )
Show them that you're protecting the small children that play in that area.
Just like in school in the lower grades, one screws up the whole class pays.
Check with city hall and see why they decided to take these measures.
I doubt that it was the detectors they were trying to keep out.
If it is , show them a bag full of junk that you dig up (especially the pointed and sharp ones )
Show them that you're protecting the small children that play in that area.
Uncle Willy
New member
That would mean no kids allowed unless authorized.. Who are the authorized personnel?
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Only an educated idiot bureaucrat would word a sign in such a way. Dumb arses rule.
Bill
Bill
And I bet that is because parents/ kids supervisors are tired of picking out glass, needles, nails, beer bottle caps, thumbtacks out of the sand. Twice last year in Edmonton, someone left some acid on the play equipment, only to have some youngsters get some mild acid burns on their hands. We should be recognized as "PROTECTORS" of these areas, as we do pick out the metal garbage and tend to keep the undesirables away simply by being there.
lazyaussie
New member
that sucks but i think it will happen more often. we have a lot of fires set under the tot lots over here. most of our school tot lots are locked up to.
sasquache
Well-known member
gosh this really is a bummer, too think people would do things too hurt our littles ones what a sick world !! and i agree its not the detectorists they ban its the inmature idiots doing harm too us all. thank goodness here in maine we dont have too many posted play areas here. its just plain sad 
Its pretty obvious it isn't aimed at detectorists.
When we throw up our hands in defeat and leap to the outcry, "we need to pass a law..." then signs get posted and another liberty erodes. Sadly, the people who care little about liberties are also little affected by things like signs.
The Nanny State draws ever closer, dear friends. It's coming to a tot-lot near you.
Bloody shame, that's what it is.
When we throw up our hands in defeat and leap to the outcry, "we need to pass a law..." then signs get posted and another liberty erodes. Sadly, the people who care little about liberties are also little affected by things like signs.
The Nanny State draws ever closer, dear friends. It's coming to a tot-lot near you.
Bloody shame, that's what it is.
CoinShooter-Craig
New member
Where we are allowed to hunt is very limited to begin with. If we loose any more areas it may get to the point where it won't even be worth owning a metal detector anymore. I belong to several metal detecting forums , and I'm amazed at the number of people who belong to them. We all need to let our voice be heard and let the people closing these areas off that we as detectorists do way more good than harm by removing trash and dangerous items from playgrounds , tot lots , parks , beaches , ect.....I wish we could all syncronize one day for all of us on these metal detecting / treasure hunting forums to send a letter (and pictures of the trash we clean up) to our congress men / women and/or the mayor of our cities to let our voice be heard (for once) and defend our rights before we loose our rights. That would be a sad day indeed. Just my opinion. CoinShooter-Craig
When some idiots make a video like this one on You Tube you can expect some pretty big holes in the park. There is no reason in the world to cut a plug in a park or manicured lawn. In the field or bush go for it as long as you fill in the holes. There are other methods of removing coins than plugs. In 34 years of coinhunting and thousands of coins removed without cutting a plug. HH Kenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqRyBlS8220&feature=related
All
I think that if someone does check on the "why" they will find out it is for "security reasons". Ever since 911 everything is slowly getting secured. Any kind of potential target. It may sound off the wall but it is happening. A fence is a form of barrier and if you cross it is a trespass offense (in the US there are fencing laws) most of us know that, however if the "authoritative person(s)" feel as though a law was broken and it was with intent to cause physical harm they can use that law and upgrade it to a felony (I think). I know there is a Judge that is somewhere out there on this site maybe he can correct or confirm this. If you do it to incur injury by some form of weapon they can get you for Armed Trespass. I might be wrong and I hope so and I also hope that it is "the" reason because if it isn't it will just show my point in one of my latest posts somewhere about "our fun being slowly taken away" even the kids...lets hope it is for security reasons only!
Don
I think that if someone does check on the "why" they will find out it is for "security reasons". Ever since 911 everything is slowly getting secured. Any kind of potential target. It may sound off the wall but it is happening. A fence is a form of barrier and if you cross it is a trespass offense (in the US there are fencing laws) most of us know that, however if the "authoritative person(s)" feel as though a law was broken and it was with intent to cause physical harm they can use that law and upgrade it to a felony (I think). I know there is a Judge that is somewhere out there on this site maybe he can correct or confirm this. If you do it to incur injury by some form of weapon they can get you for Armed Trespass. I might be wrong and I hope so and I also hope that it is "the" reason because if it isn't it will just show my point in one of my latest posts somewhere about "our fun being slowly taken away" even the kids...lets hope it is for security reasons only!
Don
I think that if someone does check on the "why" they will find out it is for "security reasons". Ever since 911 everything is slowly getting secured. Any kind of potential target. It may sound off the wall but it is happening
Not off the wall, at all. It is one of the greatest tools of the controllers over their sheep. My two favorite quotes, if I may be allowed a moment:
Not off the wall, at all. It is one of the greatest tools of the controllers over their sheep. My two favorite quotes, if I may be allowed a moment:
lazyaussie
New member
KRT (Ont) plugs have there place in detecting i hunt old coins about 50% of my detecting time in parks & if i was unable to cut plugs i would find very little. when i"m finished cutting a plug & replace i"m unable to see where it was. i don"t dig plugs in dry weather only in wet ground EG after rain or in winter when the grass does not die & i don"t cut plugs when hunting new coins in the grass.
i feel with a little common sense plugs area a useful way of retrieving old coins.
lazyaussie
P.S sorry for changing the subject.
i feel with a little common sense plugs area a useful way of retrieving old coins.
lazyaussie
P.S sorry for changing the subject.
KRT (Ont) said:
I dig plugs, so I guess that makes me an idiot too.
When I watched that video I saw someone making a flap plug, and that's the way I retrieve targets that are too deep or too big for me to effectively pop.
I've looked back carefully months later at several places I've been and I don't see any damage or any signs that I was ever there.
When I look at that video, I think that would be a good thing for someone new at this to watch. I sure don't see it causing "big holes in the park"
With your 34 years of experience, perhaps you could make a video showing a better way to retrieve deep or large targets from the ground.
That would definitely be more constructive than calling someone an idiot for making something instructional.
John 'n' W.Va
Active member
marcomo said:
When I lived in Fl. I wouldn't dig plugs because the sand was too soft. It would all pour out and all you would have is dry grass in your hand. I would make a slice and probe into the slice.
That doesn't work in WV. The soil and grass is different. Plugs work great. I don't do it when it is dry. I MD some old nice houses and have never had a complaint.
Lazie Aussie I understand that there is some ground conditions were you may have to cut a plug, but it can be a small hinged plug not one like in the video were he is trying to remove a frisbee sized coin. There is one video worse than that one were he removes the complete plug. If you have a dryspell you can imagine what a park will look like. I also hunt and retrieve old coins and some are deep, but I have a method to remove them with a hole the size of my finger.. I imagine you have some pretty rough ground in Australia were my method would not be practical. I am sorry if I offended you and other viewers, for this I apologize. HH KRT
Just saw on local news about a tot lot. It was built last year and a lot of work went into it. Shortly afterward someone burned it up. Many sad faces. Volunteers gathered and got enough materials and and built another one. Someone tried to burn it up again. Was mostly made of wood. Maybe this could be one of the reasons - folks hanging in the parks up to no good.
KRT (Ont) said:
No offense taken on my end. Heck, my wife says I'm an idiot on a regular basis.
I'll agree with you that the plug shape in the video could be improved, more V shaped and less square.
The problem I've had when digging plugs is when I make my hinge too small I sometimes have the whole plug come loose. Especially on the very deep targets where I have to remove a good deal of dirt after cutting the plug.
In all seriousness, I would like to hear about (or see) your method for retrieving deep coins with a hole the size of your finger.